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Question: What kind of country do you occasionally find a bad running hogs?
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Palmetto/palm flat
Pasture land - open
Mature agg crops - corn
2-5 year old clear cutes
flooded river/creek bottoms
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Author Topic: Runner Country...Where do your dogs get burned?  (Read 4090 times)
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« on: March 16, 2010, 06:41:58 pm »

Its my 1st poll so humor me please. Cheesy

On other threads we have discussed what kind of dogs and measures we use to catch these running hogs. I want to see how runners relate to the terrain we find them in occasionally.
I left a few off but figured 8 options was enough.

I know runners are closely associated with highly dogged areas however; I think terrain has a lot to do with it also.

What do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2010, 06:52:15 pm »

briar thickets and 6 to 10 year old grown up clear cuts full of yupons brias and tala trees
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2010, 06:53:45 pm »

Forest is 80% of our hunting but the dogs get burnt alot in what we call guinea grass but I don't have a picture of that, So I guess I choose other!
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2010, 07:01:51 pm »

Mature crops probly give the hogs the biggest advantage in my opinion for a number of reasons........the thickness, the warm/hot temps. that we have during that time of year, limited acess into the middle of fields ect.  Also I beleive a big problem is the size and continuity of the crop....each square foot is exactly the same as the next so there is no place for the hog to back up into and bay up.  99% of the time they don't feel comfortable standing at bay in the fields so the just leave or run circles within the crop.  Then the size....... some fields can be a couple hundred acres in size with nothing more than a few turn rows to break it up.  Briars are bad but you don't see very many 200 acre solid briar patches without trails and openings scatterd around.  Then again when you have a June corn field that is in the middle of polination and next to that is a bad brair thicket with high temps and 80% humidity the hogs have a bit of an advantage. Grin

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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2010, 08:01:59 pm »

we run in river bottoms and thick s!@# and thay get out run quick alot of times
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 08:13:36 pm »

Pine trees about head high up to about 10 or 12 ft is pretty tough in this area. Thats about what 90% of the land is like around here these days. Its tough but as long as your dogs got plenty of bottom you can catch the biggest majority.
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2010, 09:11:15 pm »

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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2010, 10:39:51 pm »

Young pines because the briar are hard for the dogs to get through and the hogs know where they're going and just plow through it. Thats just my opinion.
 
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2010, 10:43:54 pm »

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.    Roger that... Everywhere around the Moscow,Camden or 7 oaks area the hogs run for miles... The terrain is mostly pine plantations full of nasty yopoun (sp) and saw brair thickets. We have ran hogs in this place for up 9 hours before finnaly stopping the hog, as soon as they here the first bark or smell you or the dogs the race is on. And they can get a huge lead on the dogs. While the hogs are runnin straight ahead the dogs have to smell everywhere the hog went and try to manuever through the thickest crap you've ever seen. I will try to get some pics of the thickets I'm talkin about. And last year we ran. Barr hog over two miles before we caught him. Don't now how he ran so far. He was bumpin 380.
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2010, 10:48:47 pm »

I agree Waylon. Crops are the worst. To add to you list of reason why... the tend to get the most hunting pressure in a short period of time.

The most productive for me is Wolf Grass and the thick under-brush type stuff. Of coarse LARGE acreage with very little hunting pressure is easy pickings.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2010, 11:07:29 pm »



Palmetto flats are bad enough but when they can get regular sunlight it can be almost impossible to get to a bay. A perfect mix of saw briars, yopon, and who knows what else, that only dillas and hogs live in. Hogsgonewild has his work cute out for him in this place.  Gotta get like Tarzan and take to the trees sometimes. Grin

Waylon, I agree. My hats off to the guys that hunt them regularly. Any hog in a mature corn field is tough on a dog.
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2010, 11:19:30 pm »

some of the stuff down this way is still the thickest ive ever seen. a place i hunted a long time ago had short tallow trees and thorns, thorns, thorns. it took me 25 mintues to get 150 yards. i wasnt caring about getting cut by thorns, thats just how long it took to push and crawl through them.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2010, 12:28:28 am »

Rose hedge.  Either run rough stuff or get burned.
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2010, 02:07:24 am »

I get burned all the time when hunting in these lygodium vines. It just forms a big mat over the palmettos and myrtles that the hogs have tunnels through. Ive had to track to my dogs and cut them out of these vines because they can not find a way out from underneath it. Some bad stuff.


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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2010, 06:56:41 am »

briar thickets and 6 to 10 year old grown up clear cuts full of yupons brias and tala trees
yea its hard for are dogs to go through them to but they usually catch up after they get out
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2010, 07:47:13 am »

briar thickets and 6 to 10 year old grown up clear cuts full of yupons brias and tala trees
yea its hard for are dogs to go through them to but they usually catch up after they get out

I agree. The runners I chase usually get caught if they get pushed out of or just leave whatevere nasty stuff they are able to stay ahead of my dogs in. Caught one Monday after she decided to leave the swamp the dogs had chased her in for an hour.
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2010, 07:49:23 am »

Sf, that's some nasty stuff.
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2010, 09:21:00 am »

sfboarbuster,

I have been in those lygodium vines in Alabama. Never hunted hogs in them though and hope I never have too! I dont know how anything can get around in that stuff other than a snake!
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2010, 10:03:45 am »

Palmetto bottom and briar/rosehedge seem to be rough on my dogs. I only hunt in that crap once a year though so it does not concern me really.

I almost never loose a pig in the rocks, hills, cedar, mesquite, cactus, yaupon and whitebrush that constitute my Happy Hunting Grounds. And, I think that is what matters.

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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2010, 03:48:24 pm »

we caught a hog in them vines one night and ended up getting lost the only way you could get through is crawl over top and you would fall through and have to crawl back out we were dragging dogs with us and decided to cut them back loose after about a hour of crawling we heard the dogs baying again it was the same hog in the same spot we started from after another 4 hours we made it out It wasent too hard to get to the hog the first time they had it but it was like the stuff grew up around us
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