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« on: April 15, 2010, 04:44:40 pm » |
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i really need to kno this cuz i think its just mistakes then ppl are tyin to make money and gettting young hunters screwed!!! 
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2010, 04:50:58 pm » |
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The dogs I have are bulldog and curdog. They work best for the places I hunt. I like a rough catchy dog and don't have to have a lead in catch dog. I like the fact I can take one or two dogs to the woods and catch any hog they stop. That's just me though. If I breed my dogs I don't do it to make money. I usually give them to the guys around here that I hunt with. That way we know what were getting and don't end up with junk.
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2010, 05:02:19 pm » |
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The dog world is filled with "mistakes" that are excellent dogs for different purposes. I believe you would cross a Bull with a cur to add more gut and grit to the cur blood or to add more nose and bottom to the bull blood.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2010, 05:07:36 pm » |
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No mistake, I've had 1 and loved him. But they have got to be built right. I've been lookin for 1 ever since he died but can't find what im lookin for.
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2010, 05:11:29 pm » |
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a buddy has one that we use as a running catch dog, he is pretty good about staying close to us, but honoring a bay very quickly, i wouldnt trust him by himself on a big hog but he gets the job done with another bulldog, or by himself on smaller ones.
i wouldnt use one as just a catch dog though
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2010, 06:42:49 pm » |
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i use pit cur cross i breed them just for ,my pack they are usualy great dogs hunt hard and lots of grit i love the cross it works for me they make great rcd's and pretty fair strike dogs
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2010, 07:00:19 pm » |
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This is an excellent cross works hard, catches hard howver bulldog side has to be looked at with more caution. I think what im tryin to say is that you want a GAME pit mix n with a good hard huntn cur will get you a good dog. JMO.
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2010, 07:02:40 pm » |
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I hope not. I just bred my male cat to my pitt. She is all catch and can wind from the wheeler, but is very hyper. He is laid back and is an excellent bay dog. I did this on purpose to see if we can put the brakes on some of these runners in the Palmettos. If she took, I will keep two and almost give the rest away. I just need back what I have in them to keep my wife off my butt. Quint
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2010, 08:46:20 pm » |
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but the way i look at it in my perspective that is takin huntin out of huntin that is not givin the hog a chance if your bay dogs cant really hold them till u get there to cut the catch dog loose sounds as if u need to get a better dog and let it be but that is my point of view it just seems like if u have them catchin before u get there ur takin the sport and hardness out of it and thats kinda lazy 
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2010, 08:57:17 pm » |
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you can say what you want i cought over 200 hogs last year with my gritty dogs and diddnt run them all over texas with a bay dog it takes a gritty dog to put teeth on a hog and stop it but if you want to chase your dogs and hogs for hours then you dont need that cross get ya some poodles and have fun your way lol becouse my reg bmc's will stop and catch just like ,my cross breed curs do and theres lots of sport in it come go with me ill show ya how real dogs catch hogs
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2010, 09:02:08 pm » |
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5 yrs ago I had a great Cat X Pit that I used as a traditional catch dog or RCD. Caught as hard as any straight bulldog but ran and handled like a cur dog. Its hard to find good reasonably priced bulldogs. ALot of the Cur X Bulldogs can be bought at a better price and you can get the same results. With that said, its just like any thing else... not every BMC makes a strike dog and not every Pit makes a catch dog.
I will throw in that all these Xs being sold and talked about as being the cure for your hogs running is a bit misleading IMO.
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2010, 09:08:39 pm » |
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Not to be negative, I know there is lots of good ones out there. But everytime I try to ad one to my curs I do not get positive results. I raised one litter out of one of my good BMC's and a half cur half ridgeback catch dog. Ever one of the pups were real catchy. They really didn't hunt that good, but would always answer the bay. Tried to catch as soon as they got there. Got my curs cut nearly every time. Lots of times the bay busted and would lose the pig. Got rid of them and solved the problem. So I guess I would have to admit they didn't work for me. But like I said I do know fellow hunters that get along well with them. Guess it just comes down to hunting styles.
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2010, 09:09:31 pm » |
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Like what roughdog said, I bought 2 brothers pit/cur they are 4 months now. There older brothers 17-18 months are RANKKKK , will find and catch any hog . That is a popular mix in Florida where im from . They find and catch hogs plain and simple !!!
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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2010, 09:14:57 pm » |
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Not to be negative, I know there is lots of good ones out there. But everytime I try to ad one to my curs I do not get positive results. I raised one litter out of one of my good BMC's and a half cur half ridgeback catch dog. Ever one of the pups were real catchy. They really didn't hunt that good, but would always answer the bay. Tried to catch as soon as they got there. Got my curs cut nearly every time. Lots of times the bay busted and would lose the pig. Got rid of them and solved the problem. So I guess I would have to admit they didn't work for me. But like I said I do know fellow hunters that get along well with them. Guess it just comes down to hunting styles.
What you just described is undesired in all hunting styles. Dogs have to be smart and either commit to the catch and be in control or not catch at all. That back and forth stuff will cost you hogs every time no matter what style IMO. I do not know of any one or style the considers that productive behavior. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2010, 09:15:37 pm » |
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To jtmitchell21 .. Dont really know how having dogs that can find and catch a hog is lazy lol. Some folks want a bay dog , dont need one if you got a dog gettin both jobs done. To each His Own !!!
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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2010, 09:23:56 pm » |
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but the way i look at it in my perspective that is takin huntin out of huntin that is not givin the hog a chance if your bay dogs cant really hold them till u get there to cut the catch dog loose sounds as if u need to get a better dog and let it be but that is my point of view it just seems like if u have them catchin before u get there ur takin the sport and hardness out of it and thats kinda lazy  Listen kid. You asked a question and people gave you answers. Then you come back with this kind of stuff  . This is what I use and they get the job done on a regular basis. You keep doing what your doing and I'll keep stacking hogs in the truck 
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2010, 09:30:08 pm » |
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im not hunting to give the hog a chance im hunting to catch hogs
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2010, 09:46:58 pm » |
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but the way i look at it in my perspective that is takin huntin out of huntin that is not givin the hog a chance if your bay dogs cant really hold them till u get there to cut the catch dog loose sounds as if u need to get a better dog and let it be but that is my point of view it just seems like if u have them catchin before u get there ur takin the sport and hardness out of it and thats kinda lazy  Being a smart a$$ won't get you very far on here.  You hunt your way, i'll hunt my way, everyone else will hunt their way and we'll all tell stories and have a good time.
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2010, 09:58:56 pm » |
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i have nine puppies that our out of our best catch dog and find dog. they are for sale just for 50 bucks thats it and they should be able to catch a pig by themselves when they get older. call me on 325-232-3915 or 325-660-8997
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jtmitchell21
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2010, 10:11:57 pm » |
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I did ask a question and i appreciate everyones anwsers! Everyone has their own styles of hunting. We sell the hogs we catch so cant have them to chewed up but everybody knows that they can get pretty tore up at times. alot of people kill the catch as soon as the hog is caught i dont dissagree but we bring them out alive thats money in my pocket. i have heard of many instances where the xs broke the bay. i like to run in see the bay before i turn any catch dogs loose . im not knockin rough dogs i have a bmc that is a little gritty but she doesnt try to catch unless its a pig i dont like anything catchin but my bulldog. ill keep the poodle thing in mind lol! thanks for the input keep it comin 
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