breedin ?

[3-Bdogs]

ok i got this male dog find any hog go all day love the dog he is actually a pet who acquired the knowledge that we like hogs so he taught himself everything my ? is he is gettin older now want to breed him the prob is he is mountain cur x some hound x some birddog im guessin cause of the speckles on feetx pit he opens on trail not all the time but he does sometimes and i don't hunt him for that reason also have his sister little shorter range and quieter but overall pretty much the same my ? is what would some of y'all breed him to the undesireed trait is the open mouth what are some breeds that y'all find to close a mouth up and understand none of these pups will leave this place so let me hear some others views

[bignasty]

a hard hunting pit/bulldog should give you what you want,i would go rednose myself

[johnf]

maybe a english pointer or  bird x bull or cur x bull something tight mouthed that u like and know and hope for the best.

[chopper]

old family rednose

[waylon-N.E. OK]

1. German shorthair
2. Airedale
3. Bmc

Couldn't go wrong with any of the above. All hunt hard, have good noses and keep quiet. There are some BMC that open a little but more that dont

[SouthsFinestFla]

If u wanna stick nose I would go with cat,pointer, or bmc.... I would personally go with some kind of bully game bred pit , or a high energy american bull dog. Hope ya get what you r lookin for

[kevin]

If open trailing was something I didn't want, I would not breed him.  Find a dog that has all of the qualitys you are looking for.  If you start with a fault, its that much harder to get rid of in your breeding.

[Kyle0329]

iam with kevin imo i would not breed somthing that has traits i do not like

[waylon-N.E. OK]

If you start with a fault, its that much harder to get rid of in your breeding.

Just asking here but what line of dogs don't have faults?
How do you start a line of dogs that don't have faults?

I think you probably are saying major faults? if not I wanna see your dogs, maybe I just misread what your trying to get across

[Kyle0329]

imo line breeding would be the only way to get all the faults out of a dog

[catchrcall]

not trying to be a wise guy at all, just trying to pick up a little knowledge.  Wouldn't line breeding a dog with a fault accentuate that fault?  In this case, if half the litter was open, and half silent and you culled the open ones, wouldn't future breedings from the silent pups back to that male have the same chance at being open?  or even if you outcrossed after the first litter to another silent dog, wouldn't you have at least some open pups since their grandsire was open?

[3-Bdogs]

that's correct i know about breedin and linebreedin but i was curious if any on here have messed with tryin to shut a open mouth dog they will be my own dogs so i would cull hard and if i had a litter and just one would be silent i would be tickled pink about it

[catchrcall]

gotcha.  thanks

[kevin]

If you start with a fault, its that much harder to get rid of in your breeding.

Just asking here but what line of dogs don't have faults?
How do you start a line of dogs that don't have faults?

I think you probably are saying major faults? if not I wanna see your dogs, maybe I just misread what your trying to get across

 The dogs I use to breed don't have any faults.  But, that is to me.  They may have problems in your opinion.  They suit me though.    Ill cull for damn near anything.

[Circle C]

Ill cull for damn near anything.

Kevin,
  You and my friend Ben, the one that bought your truck, are the hardest culling guys I have ever known. I know the dogs that make it to be 2-3 year olds with Ben are damn sure some dogs.

[scdogman]

Ruleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee number one in linebreeding.

START with a outstanding speciman.   You don;t linebreed out faults.

[3-Bdogs]

someone show me a dog without any faults and i will be speechless everything has faults it may be flawless in your eyes but not in others and i will admit that the dogs i hunt now are the worst pack i have ever owned do they catch me hogs yes just not as good as past dogs i've had and when i had those dogs i didn't think much of them just never satisfied i guess not with anything but i am picky with my dogs and have never seen a flawless dog mine or anyone else's but i do believe there is a way to breed that out of a dog and keep his good traits might take yrs Idk just curious about y'alls opinion

[kevin]

I wasn't trying to down you or your dogs.  Like you said, you asked for opinions.  I am just looking at the fact that you don't want open trailing dogs, and this dog does it.   If it is something that you can live with breed him.  It is just a lot easier to start with dogs that have the traits you want your finished product to have.  I know that even breeding dogs that suit me perfectly I still don't get what I'm looking for out of more than maybe 2 pups per litter.
They're gonna be your dogs so more power to you.  Whatever you do, best of luck.

[kevin]

Ill cull for damn near anything.

Kevin,
  You and my friend Ben, the one that bought your truck, are the hardest culling guys I have ever known. I know the dogs that make it to be 2-3 year olds with Ben are damn sure some dogs.

 Somebodys got to do it.   

[HIGHWATER KENNELS]

It costs just as much to feed a cull as it does a A-1 stike dog, Huh!!!! Agree with you Kevin 100%