pit bulls

[jojo]

I wish curs would have the drive of pits. I know some do but have you noticed that is more unusual for a pit to not show interest in a hog than to catch or atleast bark at hog I have seen few that will not. But on The otherhand I have seen lots of curs that take a while to catch on or show no interest in hog.I guess that is why a good strike dog goes for alot more than a good catch dog. If you where just getting startin hunting i would go with a pit x because you are prabibally more likeley to come up with a dog that will do something than just run hogs off unless you get lucky with a good cur that will hold and bay a hog. Dont get me wrong i love a good loose baying dog that will stay with a hog for a long time and would love to have some, but with a pitx you can start catching hogs easier until you get them curs going, just looking for others opps.

[roughdog]

i would rather have a pack of gritty bmcs but thats just me i got both pit x and bmcs and my bmcs will run circles around most dogs but they are all gritty  but dont get me wrong my pit x curs do a fine job

[jojo]

i like a good ruff cur too its just that the last couple ive had werent gritty enough and dident get that hog crazy battle to death attitude i love in a pit, and the prob was they could find em better but would runem off and come back after a while, when the pitxs may take longer to find or not range out as far to find but the ones they do find are caught, maby i just havnt had luck with the ones ive got a hold of lateley and the best dogs ive ever hunted behind where good curs that could find and bay a hog all night but i think them dogs are alot harder to come by,and most pitxs or just good athletic pits 30-60# will catch you some hogs if they are fresh in area.

[make-em-squeel]

I respect what your saying about the pits attitude, and good cur dogs for hogs or cattle are not as easy find as a gamey pit but i think that if you wil stick with hunting curs long enough, get a solid pack of curs that work well together, and take the time to develop a pack of 2 or 3 from good working stock that you can get consistant good pups from, you will be much happier and catch a lot more hogs in all types of terrain compared to catching hogs with a pit or so on the ground quicker. Getting a good pack together takes time, and is fun and well worth the wait since although a few pits will together in good spots will be quicker pork production at first.

I think the reason for that is b/c the pits are such an old breed that have been bred for only one purpose for so long that they are very similiar and consistant in what they all do generally wth very little training. There are so many curs that have been bred for so many different reasons and alot mixed together (like treeing smaller game etc. / farm work etc etc) not the same produceability from every one found at the pound. Finished cd's are cheaper than finished strike dogs b/c for those obvious reasons they are easy/easier to find, replace quickly, and breed etc.  my .02

[3-Bdogs]

x2 i raise pits and they have amazing drive because that's what they were bred for before hog doggin got popular now if your lookin for good curs you need to find someone that knows what their doin and what you in their breedin programs and get their blood then line breed em if you like em my opinion... if i just had to pick my favorite breed of dogs it would deffiantly be a pit though

[dub]

Don't dis my BMC. If a pit had a nose and the stamina to run for hours then people would run a pack of pits. I am not going to say anything bad about pits. I believe in having a hunting team. Each dog has its place on my team or it is gone. My BMC has a nose to find a hog. I am bring up an English Pointer because they can run for hours in 100+ degrees and they are gritty. I plan to cross the EP and the BMC. When they get the pig bayed then I will bring in the fresh catch dog to seal the deal. I believe in looking at a dog's strengths and I run the team. If one dog could do it all then what is my job on the team? I am the brains that builds a strong team and makes sure they work together to catch hogs. My catch dog needs a very protective vest that a bay dog could not run in. That is like saying there is one type of skills for a football team. I am the owner, coach, and trainer of my team. I do not want a show boat player, I want a Super Bowl team.

[BIG BEN]

 IMO pits have the drive to get the job done and are like cyborg soldiers in the heat of battle but are the biggest sissy's after it all said and done. IMO the are the easiest breed to put in shock after getting cut down.

[hog428]

Pits for sure the drive and dedication to please the master they will give there life with out missing a beat  The breeding in the last 15 years has been to create a ring fighter so most lines need some tweaking to regain the stamina they once had   They were bred to hunt

[UNDERDOG]

The breeding in the last 15 years has been to create a ring fighter so most lines need some tweaking to regain the stamina they once had   They were bred to hunt

Are you saying that only in they have only been bred for combat for the last 15 years? if so you are wrong,if anything the breedings have declined for combat over the last 15 years. Resaerch deeper and you will find out.And the game/combat dogs had more stamina than the modern non working dogs.

[hog428]

kinda what I was saying the fighting has changed Its not hard to see the change in the body style as have the style of rings I know many old time dog fighters they have built lower more wide dogs now than there fathers did took away the legs bulls were much more legey before do some research on old family reds

[hog428]

bulls were hunting long before they were ring dogs dating back to 50ad

[raider54]

Bulldogs are gamey, but they also lack the tools for the total package. That is why we use them in thier capicity. They lack stamina, nose, and instinct. A Pitbull may be able to fight a hog for an hour but if he has to sprint 500 yards to get to him he will more than likely be spent when he gets there. There are certainly some pits that will do it all but for me I will take a pack of long range, slightly gritty, houndXcur crosses and the Bulldog and I will show up in style and close the deal. Good Bulldogs are cheap and so are crappy cur dogs. I agree with you those cheap cur dogs are a dissapointment! I would rather have one GOOD strike dog than a whole pack of the cheap ones.  Good luck