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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2010, 07:39:12 pm »

We just got a female stag hound that were gonna cross on a pretty rough cur dog I have.. This dog is built like I have never seen and can absolutely fly. I will try to get a pic of her on here.
We also just had a litter of 1/2 cat  1/2 bulldog pups hit the ground off the same male cur dog we're gonna breed to the stag..

A stag is exactly what I'd be running in the pair with a dog with some nose. That's why I'm interested to hear more about the BMC and cat crosses.
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« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2010, 09:51:34 pm »

I may have to start a new thread for this. Anyone ever hunted a walker/pit cross? Friend had an accidental breeding between his old walker female and a young pit catch dog.
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« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2010, 09:57:04 pm »

sounds like it would work ive hunted with alot of bmcxpit catxpit but never tryed any pitxhound but would like to know how they do.
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« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2010, 08:52:19 pm »

sounds like it would work ive hunted with alot of bmcxpit catxpit but never tryed any pitxhound but would like to know how they do.

Any pics of those bmc/pit crosses?
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« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2010, 02:07:54 am »

this is a breed i'd really like to field test that i haven't seen used. similar crossings but not quite this. and i'd wanna start with with the best possible stock with the propper attributes and abilities. AB X pointer. either english or german short haired.
check these dogs out, the kind i'd like to start with.

http://www.rbkennel.com/sire.htm
http://tauntonbay.tripod.com/photo_gallery.htm (second picture from bottom)

I'd like the muscleing, tenacity and head size of the AB, the stamina, nose and leg of the pointer.
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« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2010, 09:08:41 am »

I may be just slow, but why would you breed a "sight" hound to a bulldog? Where I live a sight hound would be worthless. Its thick, wet and you never see the hogs until they are bayed or caught. Neither sight hounds or bulldogs are known for having much nose, they are just not bred for it. So if you are trying to breed for a RCD, that can FIND the hog, run it down and catch it, seems you would have to breed something with enough nose to find the hogs. Unless of course you are turning them out looking at the hogs in a pasture.........then thats hog catching...not hog hunting in my opinion....

Seems lots of guys are searching for that "magic cross". I think that can be done in one breed by just breeding similar dogs that have the characteristics you are looking for. When you start crossing totally different types/breeds of dogs you are really rolling the dice and betting against odds the dog will come out like you want. Too many variables and you will end up with a lot more dogs that WON'T do what you want than what will do it. I am sure there are exceptions, but I dang sure wouldn't base my breeding program around that type of cross.......

If you want a close hunting, rough, catchy type of dog there are plenty around. Just find someone that breeds that type of dog and get a pup. I would hope those odds would be better at getting a RCD type of dog , than by crossing a non hog dog breed into something else and hoping it works........

As far as having numerous dogs out at once, I don't hunt like that and never will, but some guys do. To me its all about the dog doing a good job. If I have 1-2 dogs out I KNOW which dog is doing what. With 8-10 dogs out I feel you are just hoping something out there can get the job done.......it doesn't take that many dogs to find/bay a hog....ever.

Most guys just have no confidence in their dogs. Of the guys that hunt packs of dogs, how many will load up ONE of those dogs and drive an hour or more to hunt, and NOT take any other dogs?? Very few I bet. If you would do that, hunt one or two dogs at a time, you would soon learn what dogs are doing the work, and which dogs are just along for the ride........
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« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2010, 09:30:03 am »

to me a rcd is a dog that is going to catch not a gritty bay dog so in my books a rcd should be able to hold it own solo with no help . i have a pit x lacy dog that will find a hog stop it catch it and never bark unless is Big and thats the lacy in him barking not saying anyone is worng but to me a rcd should be strat bull dog of sum kind any cross with cur i have had will bark if it gets to bay
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« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2010, 10:22:02 am »

I hear what want everone is saying, but some places I hunt the big boars will not bay period.  The
 only way I know to catch them is with a .30 cal. Slug or a pack of RCDs.  This is not my prefered method of hunting which is running 2 or 3 strike/bay dogs and a lead in catch dog and tie the hog.  This method will not work with some boars, because thay will not stop.  I'm considering breeding up RCDs for
this purpose pit x greyhound dogo must have speed stamina and lock down catch.  I know this cross may not have the best nose but I plan on running a couple of srike dogs as well.  If anyone has dogs that will catch the nonbaying running boar please come hunting with me I know were they are.
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« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2010, 01:25:46 pm »




As far as having numerous dogs out at once, I don't hunt like that and never will, but some guys do. To me its all about the dog doing a good job. If I have 1-2 dogs out I KNOW which dog is doing what. With 8-10 dogs out I feel you are just hoping something out there can get the job done.......it doesn't take that many dogs to find/bay a hog....ever.

Most guys just have no confidence in their dogs. Of the guys that hunt packs of dogs, how many will load up ONE of those dogs and drive an hour or more to hunt, and NOT take any other dogs?? Very few I bet. If you would do that, hunt one or two dogs at a time, you would soon learn what dogs are doing the work, and which dogs are just along for the ride........
Personally I dont hunt that many dogs on the ground but just because you do dont mean any one of the bunch cant get it done. With todays technollogy I could have 8 dogs on the ground and pretty much tell you when one has stopped to take a number 2. I know Jessie hunts several dogs sometimes and I can gaurantee you none of them need any help. Its just what you like. You dont like it but some do. I dont really agree with hunting a couple of rough dogs with no catchdog to back them up. But some do.
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« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2010, 05:30:20 pm »

some time I just let my dogo run she will wind a hog and when she takes off the hog is as good as caught she has not let one get away yet knock on wood
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« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2010, 07:37:25 pm »

I'd seen that a lot of dogos could find their own hog but man they are expensive. I don't think I'll be trying one anytime soon!  Grin
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« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2010, 09:30:13 am »

that snooky dog that i sold had found her own hogs 2 many times  i guess its the dogo in her
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« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2010, 01:01:05 pm »

My female dogo has found and cought her own hogs many times as well. I can not stand this in a catchdog as if she is running to a bay and one crosses her path she will go after and catch it. While this results in more then one hog caught, it puts her in more danger as she is alone and with out a vest on. As she will not hunt with one on.

My old cur x pits used to be 100% catch untill they got some age on them and started baying the older they got on rank hogs. However if that hog tried to break an run it was caught and held no matter what.
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« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2010, 02:21:18 pm »

It sounds like BMC/pit or Cat/pit is the way to go!
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« Reply #54 on: May 28, 2010, 04:04:21 pm »

crackerc- pointers have excellent noses and used in lots of crosses over here and are one of three breeds used to create the bull arab. the most widely used and proven runnin catch dogs in the country. to us the bull arab is as popular as BMC's are to you guys. i was just puttin the pointer bulldog idea out there. i know the most guaranteed you can get is to get pups from proven parents
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« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2010, 05:25:35 pm »

all we use is two dogs  and get the job done no sence in 10 dogs rippin a hog to shreds but  everyone has there own way i guess
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« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2010, 08:00:18 pm »

all we use is two dogs  and get the job done no sence in 10 dogs rippin a hog to shreds but  everyone has there own way i guess
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« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2010, 08:02:35 pm »

all we use is two dogs  and get the job done no sence in 10 dogs rippin a hog to shreds but  everyone has there own way i guess

all we use is two dogs  and get the job done no sence in 10 dogs rippin a hog to shreds but  everyone has there own way i guess
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I like the dogs you boys run! I see how many good hogs you catch on the GON board. I wouldn't mind running a FL cur dog!
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