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« on: July 07, 2010, 11:09:43 am » |
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I was wondering about some of the ways other mounted hog hunters get live hogs out of the back 40 when all they have are their mounts to do it with.
Dragging hogs a long way in the right country can rub the hair clean off of them and can be rough on them all around. Especially in the heat!
Years ago I made a sled that worked pretty well on anything under say 200 pounds but it was a big hassle to keep on the horse with me. Me and a buddy tried to walk a good boar out of a big place one year like a soured cow and it turned into a train wreck! I think the idea was sound but the equipment didn’t want to cooperate! Lol
If you have a dragging style, an aid, or a walking technique that works for you please share it with us. Post some pictures if you have them!
Something to think about while the 4-wheeler is in the shop anyway!
Many thanks
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2010, 11:18:37 am » |
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I put a rope on their snout, behind the wetters, then dally off and drag. You are right, it is a pain when you are in the deep thick woods, dragging over logs and through saplings.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2010, 12:04:34 pm » |
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I didn't have an answer so i called a friend who mostly hunts on horseback and he said the same thing as Circle C. He said the only other thing they may do is on a small hog, throw them over the saddle horn.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2010, 01:09:46 pm » |
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Well I gotta lil story that goes along on this thread...Me and my Brother in Law went hunting on horseback last summer, with one loose gyp I had. He was riding a mare he just picked up and I was putting some time on a big dun gelding that was green. Well my gyp finds this pig that couldn't weigh over 7 lbs so we caught it and tied it up, and being the smart one I am, I figured I didn't need to tie his mouth shut cuz he wasn't big as a minute. We'll we're headed back to the house, and I have this piglet looped around the saddle horn calm as can be. Well my brother in laws mare gets curious and eases up by this piglet and sniffs it as we're easing through the woods, and darn't if the pig didn't bite the horse on the end of the nose and commence to squealing. Well the mare went crazy and as soon as she made her first jump, the gelding I was on, green, started jumping, and he knows he can jump and get alil air under him. Well I grabbed the pig in one hand and held on with the other. Needless to say I held on for about 20 to 25 seconds, before he threw me into one of those nasty briar patches, all the while Im holding the pig. Landed flat of my back and jarred every bone in my body and somehow the pig cam untied, ran up my arm and across my face nipping at me as he went. Took me about ten minutes to get outta the briar patch, and another quarter mile walk to catch up to the gelding with my gyp laid up underneath him keeping him company. That was the last time I packed a hog out on a saddle, now I usually drag em out or cut em and turn em loose if I'm aways away from the house. Just figured I would share this, Im figuring there's more stories than just mine of some bad experiences. The sled seems like a pretty good idea though.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2010, 02:14:39 pm » |
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Well I gotta lil story that goes along on this thread...Me and my Brother in Law went hunting on horseback last summer, with one loose gyp I had. He was riding a mare he just picked up and I was putting some time on a big dun gelding that was green. Well my gyp finds this pig that couldn't weigh over 7 lbs so we caught it and tied it up, and being the smart one I am, I figured I didn't need to tie his mouth shut cuz he wasn't big as a minute. We'll we're headed back to the house, and I have this piglet looped around the saddle horn calm as can be. Well my brother in laws mare gets curious and eases up by this piglet and sniffs it as we're easing through the woods, and darn't if the pig didn't bite the horse on the end of the nose and commence to squealing. Well the mare went crazy and as soon as she made her first jump, the gelding I was on, green, started jumping, and he knows he can jump and get alil air under him. Well I grabbed the pig in one hand and held on with the other. Needless to say I held on for about 20 to 25 seconds, before he threw me into one of those nasty briar patches, all the while Im holding the pig. Landed flat of my back and jarred every bone in my body and somehow the pig cam untied, ran up my arm and across my face nipping at me as he went. Took me about ten minutes to get outta the briar patch, and another quarter mile walk to catch up to the gelding with my gyp laid up underneath him keeping him company. That was the last time I packed a hog out on a saddle, now I usually drag em out or cut em and turn em loose if I'm aways away from the house. Just figured I would share this, Im figuring there's more stories than just mine of some bad experiences. The sled seems like a pretty good idea though.
I have had a few similar incidents myself. lol The sled is nice! I’d rather it be wider but I believe that would work well with smaller hogs. I wonder how long it will hold up? |
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2010, 05:13:33 pm » |
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Im figuring you could rig a sled up almost like the travois the native americans use to use and like they packed Ol Yeller home on after he was hog cut...it probably wouldn't hold up forever, but it would get the job done. It seems like it would work.
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2010, 05:22:48 pm » |
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we just put there feet over the horn and there body n the seat and set behind them.if its a big hog we use a horse to drag them up a tree.google hunting sled and there r some that r made out of hard plastic that r shaped like a john boat that look good.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2010, 10:02:00 pm » |
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BA-IV, that was a good story.... I bet you didn't think it was funny then.
Years back I caught a piglet must of been a couple of days old or so and like a dummy I thought I would put my finger in his mouth so he could suckle and he bit down like a bulldog and started thrashing my finger like an airedale that was trying to kill a hog.... I felt real stupid but never did that again... My hog hunting buddy thought it was real funny...
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2010, 10:11:25 pm » |
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Thats always the issue when hunting on horses, since I try and get all mine out alive. When it rained so much this past winter we hunted some on horseback, spent a lot of time dragging hogs out when we could have been catching more on a 4 wheeler. Also, if youve got some dogs that'll go hunt and stay with a hog, it's a hassle to have to try and keep up. JMO. Its fun, but not the most practical way to hunt, for me anyway.
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Put him in the saddle then I ride behind the hog!!! I wish I had some picture's of some that we hauled out they were monsters going out alive in the saddle!!
There was one time we caught a big barr and there was alot of back warter we swam the horse's in and they wated to bring the hog out so I drug him to the edge of the water then took a dog collar off and put it around my canal got the horse to about chest deep snuged the hog up to the horn and I grab the dog collar we swam about 75 yards!!! When I say swam we swam!!
Another time the dogs bayed on an island it was freezeing cold and I ask the rancher how deep is that slough he said I ain't never seen a cow swim it!! That means its deep!! I whipped my horse in and he never hit bottom!! We were done committed so we swam!! I caught 5 hogs on that island by myself!! All the hogs averaged about 130 lbs just sows!! I ran the rope though all there hog ties and swam back with all them useing the same method of collar and snuging them!!
Alot of people make fun of me cause I will not where rubber boots and they say if you hunt with him your going to end up in warter over your head!!
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A sled like brw7979. You can buy one or make one. A heavy tarp works good on anything but rocky stuff.
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Thats always the issue when hunting on horses, since I try and get all mine out alive. When it rained so much this past winter we hunted some on horseback, spent a lot of time dragging hogs out when we could have been catching more on a 4 wheeler. Also, if youve got some dogs that'll go hunt and stay with a hog, it's a hassle to have to try and keep up. JMO. Its fun, but not the most practical way to hunt, for me anyway.
Yeah sometimes its not to practical for me either depending on the place but I find it easier to keep up with the dogs on a horse or a mule than a wheeler in big country. Getting a good jumping mule over a fence doesn’t take any longer than leading a catch dog under one. Jumping fences on ATV’s can get a little tricky.  . I sure like having the option for both and feel blessed to have that option. |
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Well we hunt a lot of pine timber and creek bottoms, and some of the places the brush is crazy and most of the time, thats where your gonna end up at, because with hogs you either start in a briar patch or end up in one...Hunting on horses just seems to be alot more fun and enjoyable to me...I ride alot of green horses for people and have had some experiences, and for sure you won't just throw a hog on any horse and get on right behind it, cuz some horses just don't like the smell of a hog, or at least thats my experience
Hey Cward, if you get to hunting on horseback anytime in the near future, throw some pictures up of how you rig it up so we can see if you don't mind...Im always open to new and better ways for horse back hunting and getting pigs out. If anybody else hunts alot on horseback, I would love to see some pictures, its always cool to see how everything is by other people...Have a good un.
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Keeping a big hog tied in the saddle would sure be a challenge for me and my barrel headed mule but I am up for trying it. I need to scotch hobble him and get him used to smaller hogs to start with I guess. Its just been to easy to ride back to the truck and get a 4 wheeler over the past 10 years. I've had a little practice with packing things out of the mountains with my mules and can throw a pretty decent diamond hitch (after about 3 tries ) but I aint tried to pack out anything alive on them much less a big hog. I think thats on of the differences between a hunter and a cowboy that hunts. lol. Some pictures would sure be handy! I have a feeling Im going to be trying a few practice rounds with my mule, tying live hogs on his back with the saddle on. It should be interesting. He aint boogered in years. Not even with smelling bear, or close encounters with moose. He didnt even put up to much of a fuss when I pulled a deer over the saddle the 1st time. Something tells me a live hog will be different though! lol. |
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Well the only problem I see with the deal is that I hunt some by myself and if I'm not by myself, It's only one maybe two other people, so if I got on a boar hog that was big enough, I'd sure have to figure away to winch him up there, cuz lifting him up seems like it would be a problem, especially if the horse was wanting to shy away...I'm thinking the boar hog would take offense to being thrown up there and would wanna fight you all the way back...I don't know though, I've never done it with a big hog. BoarNinja-I don't think I'll try any hog on a horse that I haven't had alot of time to work with...For sure that baby pig caused me alot of sore muscles and bones  Could you imagine having a horse throw you and a big boar hog landing on you, mite hurt a lil |
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Well the only problem I see with the deal is that I hunt some by myself and if I'm not by myself, It's only one maybe two other people, so if I got on a boar hog that was big enough, I'd sure have to figure away to winch him up there, cuz lifting him up seems like it would be a problem, especially if the horse was wanting to shy away...I'm thinking the boar hog would take offense to being thrown up there and would wanna fight you all the way back...I don't know though, I've never done it with a big hog. BoarNinja-I don't think I'll try any hog on a horse that I haven't had alot of time to work with...For sure that baby pig caused me alot of sore muscles and bones Could you imagine having a horse throw you and a big boar hog landing on you, mite hurt a lil Yes sir! I would imagine it could hurt pretty bad. I had a 3 wheeler(Im getting old) throw a tire one morning with a big hog tied on the back alive. It was big enough that I had to lean out over the handle bars to keep the front tire on the ground and I was moving on at a pretty good clip when that tire came off. The 3 wheeler and the hog ended up on top of me! That kinda hurt a little too! I hunt about half the time by myself also. Its a perfect excuse to change out the boars and let them go. It can sure turn into work on a good hog, or when the dogs just keep on catching them. My young dogs dont call off too easy.  Im still working on that handle. |
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I hunt about half the time by myself also. Its a perfect excuse to change out the boars and let them go. It can sure turn into work on a good hog, or when the dogs just keep on catching them. My young dogs dont call off too easy. Im still working on that handle. Now you definitely can't blame the young dogs for that one, they are just trying to keep you in shape and on your toes |
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I hunt about half the time by myself also. Its a perfect excuse to change out the boars and let them go. It can sure turn into work on a good hog, or when the dogs just keep on catching them. My young dogs dont call off too easy. Im still working on that handle. Now you definitely can't blame the young dogs for that one, they are just trying to keep you in shape and on your toes HA HA! If thats the case then they sure have their work cut out for em! |
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So another couple of questions for the hog hunters hunting off horse back.
Does it make it difference of how many dogs your running on the ground and if so why?
How are you leading the bulldogs?
Personally I've seen long leads, to RCD's, to a ring platted in the horses tell and clip the bulldog to it...Don't mean to hijack the thread, but its all related in the end
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