how long will a catch dog hold?

[DangerZone]

Hi , JHY ...  I ment nothing to your handling of your dogs,, I was just asking ... And I've been right there before as well, The want to gohunting or fishing can get you in to deep real quick. I got stood up at the boat dock one time by two buddies and decided to go by myself almost lost my 4yr old son , my boat and my a$$ to bad weather ..... So you know I wasn't judging just asking.  Danny Ward

[Scott]

in my opinion i would want her to let go before she heat stroked but hold til death from injury.

Unfortunately, those two actions are mutually exclusive....

[make-em-squeel]

in my opinion i would want her to let go before she heat stroked but hold til death from injury.

Unfortunately, those two actions are mutually exclusive....

I guess thats true, but it seems I have seen a few dogs i think would let go before heat exhaustion set in or before they drownd in water but would never let go from being cut! I dont know ,,, ideal world /dog.


Come on guys 90% of the post have nothing to do with how long a cd could hold a hog if it had to...thats the reaso for the post! Not til it dies, how long could it hold a hog before it died!! My guess is 30 min to an hour .. more in the cold less in the heat

[outlaw]

most guys that have been catching hogs long enough carry rope with them.i hunt a lot by myself and a peice of rope can be your freind.if u cant flip him ,leg him and get your dog off.you can always usually get help to get a good size hog out of the woods.

[Reuben]

Sure is a lot of debate on CD's latetly.

"how long will a catch dog hold?" The short answer...........As long as it needs too!

That being said, in my opinion, most of the time, "as long as it needs too" shouldnt be long at all.

The Ninja said it best. I believe it is the best answer... As long as it needs too but shouldn't be long...

[S_J_KENNELS]

I have had them caught for over an hour before. Had 3 catches at one time and had to track these up. IMHO the catchdogs better stay caught till either I get there, or death do they part. I don't care how far out I turn them loose from. They better catch and hold till one or the other happens. Everybody hunts different and everybody has their opinion on these things. However saying folks that turn loose from a long distance don't care about their dogs is in most cases wrong. A catchdog or any dog for that matter can be killed as soon as they get to the hog no matter how close you are. You can be 10 feet or several hundred and have it happen. I turn loose from the truck as soon as I hear a bay. The last catchdog I lost died this winter at 15yrs old from old age. Guess we don't take care or care for our dogs since we turn loose from any distance. No matter how far it is, but you can bet your ass I am running as fast as I can behind them to get there. Also one of the reason I can not stand having one catchdog on the ground, and ALL my dogs better latch on as soon as the catchdogs hit. Also any catchdog that is worried about self preservation should not be hunting. Again my opinion.

[HogzgoneWild]

Mine are taught as long as needed, but the shorter that time is the better. But thats my job and responsibility to keep that time as short as the situation allows.

[hogdoggintn]

 Only two or three people have actually answered my question. The purpose of this topic was to get a specific event in which your dog has had to hold for an exceptionally long period of time. I know that ideally a catch dog will hold until death. I like to read your hunting stories so that is why I posted this topic.

[BarrNinja]

Here is how the situation went down. I was hunting by myself one morning at my buddies farm because no one would get up to go with me. I got my buggy stuck in the creek so I began walking back to his house. I let the dogs down and took the cut vest off of my bulldog. All I had seen was small tracks in the area so I wasn't too worried. I didn't get far and my cur and jagd started baying in a briar thicket. I assumed it was a shoat so I sent my bulldog in. When I got there it was a 250+ boar. I legged him and tried to throw him but the briars wouldn't let him go over. I didn't have a knife so I tied his back leg to a sappling and had to run a mile back to the house, get a buggy and rifle. I hauled but back and shot the thing at point blank range. It was my mistake, but I did the best that I could do. It's not easy to throw a big hog like that in an east Texas wildcat thicket by yourself.

Joey Young

I figured there was a good story with your other post. Anybody that has been hog hunting long enough has had things similar to this happen to them I would think. I know I have.
I thought I was going to be clever and release my CD on a small boar that broke out of the woods right on top of me one day. She was a fast CD but not fast enough. I misjudged the angle I thought the boar would make and they were off to the races. Vested CD and all! We caught up with them 1.2 miles later where they caught and drowned the hog in a deep slew. My CD was fine but I was lucky it wasn’t hot.
Yeah, I have made some bone headed moves also! Lessons learned from mistakes are lessons learned well!

Stories like yours are the kind of stories people can learn from. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.

[jhy]

Yall, are making me come clean and my ol lady better not read this post.

Yes, I had a lead and hobbles and I was able to tie one leg to a tree, but with the briars so thick I couldnt get around the hog to get the dog and I dont know many people that would have stayed in there on their hands and knees fighting this hog for as long as I did to get him tied to a tree.  When I say thick, you folks in east texas know exactly what I am talking about.  Had to crawl in and then crawl out.

I agree shooting a hog point blank is a bad idea, but at that point who gives a flip when you have to run a mile or so just thinking about your dog getting killed.

I actually went out to catch a small shoat to show/impress some Cougars from Dallas that I had been playing with all weekend.

So yall made me dig up the pics of this hog and Catch.

Just for the record, Catch has more heart and brains than any catchdog that I have ever come across and there are plenty of folks to back that one up.  Heavy Jeep Blood!

The hog, Catch, and I.


The dummies that didnt get out of bed


The Cougars that I went out to be the "GREAT WHITE HUNTER" for.  Something about an older woman just drives me crazy, especially when they are millionaires!!!!


Joey Young

[chainrated]

As fas as how long a catchdog would hold if you never went to him, there are so many different factors that come into play that would be a hard question to answer.. But like I said on the other thread, I would EXPECT the dog to hold as long as his body would allow..

[hoghunterdfw]

this thread reminded me of a BIG huge dogo Kevin A once had that broke out of its pen to catch a big boar that had escaped or some story like that. If I remember right he told me he found them both next to each other at the bottom of a creek, dead or near death from heatstroke (either way they both died) cause I guess that dogo did not want to let that hog go. Not sure how long they were caught but from what I heard it sounded like a pretty long time.

[chainrated]

this thread reminded me of a BIG huge dogo Kevin A once had that broke out of its pen to catch a big boar that had escaped or some story like that. If I remember right he told me he found them both next to each other at the bottom of a creek, dead or near death from heatstroke (either way they both died) cause I guess that dogo did not want to let that hog go. Not sure how long they were caught but from what I heard it sounded like a pretty long time.

Must have been a mean hog to have drug that dogo down in a creek and killed him.. 
Just messin with ya Kevin, lol..

[coyote hunter]

my bro n law sent his old pit 1000 yrds or better  she was caught for over an hour and still caught when we got there if that helps u any   theres no exact timeline for an answer to this question  different dogs/situations/weather and terrain all factor in

[raider54]

My bulldog Catch has held a good boar (250+) for nearly an hour in the July heat until I got back with a gun. He took 52 pokes and never let go until that 350 carbine dropped the hog. Ideally they should hold until dead

What?

Why?

I think I will try to pass on the OVERHEATED DOG and the 52 pokes!

[kevin]

this thread reminded me of a BIG huge dogo Kevin A once had that broke out of its pen to catch a big boar that had escaped or some story like that. If I remember right he told me he found them both next to each other at the bottom of a creek, dead or near death from heatstroke (either way they both died) cause I guess that dogo did not want to let that hog go. Not sure how long they were caught but from what I heard it sounded like a pretty long time.

  That was Bo.  I don't know how long he was caught.  It was in the high 90's that day.  The hog was probably 350 ish.  He had 3 1/2 inch cutters.  The boar got out of the pen and went up by the dog kennels.  Bo jumped the 6 foot kennel into the one next to his and flipped the latch.   When I found them they were both heat stroked, I don't know if he quit because he wanted to or not.  I just know he was alive and you could touch his eyeball and he wouldn't blink.  He died shortly after.  I figure being that he couldn't even close his eyes he probably couldn't catch anymore.

 

  Matt, no prob.  I live in the real world. I know they are far from great.  I just like them.

[Reuben]

  That was Bo.  I don't know how long he was caught.  It was in the high 90's that day.  The hog was probably 350 ish.  He had 3 1/2 inch cutters.  The boar got out of the pen and went up by the dog kennels.  Bo jumped the 6 foot kennel into the one next to his and flipped the latch.   When I found them they were both heat stroked, I don't know if he quit because he wanted to or not.  I just know he was alive and you could touch his eyeball and he wouldn't blink.  He died shortly after.  I figure being that he couldn't even close his eyes he probably couldn't catch anymore.

 

  Matt, no prob.  I live in the real world. I know they are far from great.  I just like them.
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Sounds to me like he was a very good catch dog. Too bad he wasn't found sooner.

[chainrated]

Any dog that will stay that long is what I would call a catchdog  ..
kevin, we gonna try to plan a trip back out to Texas. Get up with me and let me know when you can go..

[Bump]

Only two or three people have actually answered my question. The purpose of this topic was to get a specific event in which your dog has had to hold for an exceptionally long period of time. I know that ideally a catch dog will hold until death. I like to read your hunting stories so that is why I posted this topic.

This topic really seems pointless. Your asking for something no one should do or know why they would do. Atleast I have no idea why someone would time how long a dog would catch. Aside from a few accidents and misfortunes like Joey or Kevin had....asking how long a catch dog can hold in a hunting situation is like playing russian roulette.

Anything over a few minutes is way too long. Although there are certain circumstances where a hog breaks or somethings happens and it is unavoidable.

[Hogboy]

Rex is correct about the unavoidable and hogs breaking.  We had a big hog break that was in the wide open as soon as we let the catchdogs loose from less that 100 yards.  When they got half way there the hog broke to a rose hedge ball that was BAD.  We tried from all side to get in and couldnt.  We had to chop our way in there and use the buggy to knock some down.  By the time we did get there all of the curs had quit and were laying around the outside.  There were two catch dogs there on the verge of heat stroke that were nose to nose with that hog.  They all three were in a stair down panting and if the hog would move, both dogs would catch untill they would give out again.  Luckily we kept a thrid catchdog back and he closed the deal when we got in there.  I think the hog was glad we dispatched him as well.  It was a bad situation were it got hot, it was the 4 or 5th hog of the morning and the hog broke.  Things happen, but I was glad those two bulldogs worked together and took breaks or we would have lost two good ones that morning.  And that ordeal only took about 20 minutes.  That is more than any dog should be asked to do in my opinon, because I am like most of you.  I dont want to find out how long one can.

RJB