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« on: November 17, 2010, 10:15:32 pm » |
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The Humane Society of the United States had someone undercover at a chicken farm. They took pictures and video now everyone looks bad because of a dead chicken and one the got its crown stuck in the cage. Why do I do not want any video when I am hog hunting? When I watched the news I saw clean cages and clean chickens. Yes one was dead but for how long? If the Chickens Humane Society person was there why was he shooting video and not removing the dead bird? Why was he shooting video of the caught bird and not helping it get its head free? It seems making people look bad is much more important than the suffering of animals. If a person was fighting for their life and some idiot was just shooting video there would be an outrage.
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2010, 11:04:45 pm » |
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.... If a person was fighting for their life and some idiot was just shooting video there would be an outrage.
no there wouldn't. happens all the time, just watch the news. there is always more outrage over animal welfare than human. to many people dont have the same priorities as us.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2010, 11:25:52 pm » |
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whos to say the camera guy didnt kill it for an interesting story ?just saying 
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2010, 10:48:18 am » |
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they have sevferal "exposes" they call them, HBO even aired one of them where the guy was like uncover for several months in a kennel in MO or AR can't remember where dogs were bought and picked up and collected for resale to animal research labs, the dogs were treated miserable, overcrowded and many fights were on camer anmd many died that were thrown in a big pit. He watched and filmed it all, for months UNDERCOVER, to turn into a "case" that went to court, He was not law enforcement, just spinless sneak, and his case went to a court of law to win the case of animal cruelty.
Then they also had one on factory Farming on apig farm in Ohio, same thing, month of filming how the conditions of the pigs were aweful, they did nott win that case, the US Pork Producers Brought in big attorneys, and filed counter charges against the spy.
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2010, 10:54:03 am » |
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You can also reasearch 4-5 years ago a reporter cam along for a hunt with Brad and Scott of the Nixon baypen, open fair chase hunt, these guys opened their homes to this man and took him on several hunts, then let him participate at the Bay competition to see the real truth. The story came out in Dallas and then went to some Houston area circulars, It depicted the hunt of Drunken Ignorant rednecks with trucks loaded down with dogs in cages, to tight to move, the bay Pen painted the story of tyrucks and families lined up to enter the back road event whrre viciousd dopgs cornerd and terrorized the pigs that had no where to go, Children played by the side of the pen and cheered on the blood sport, Alot of desriptive words from aguy that pretended to be supportive and would be non biased only report what he saw,
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2010, 11:19:56 am » |
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whos to say the camera guy didnt kill it for an interesting story ?just saying  I agree, wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2010, 09:48:00 pm » |
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They edit and slant things to what I call defamation of character.
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"...A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself..." John Stuart Mill
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2010, 09:18:18 am » |
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Thats a good reason why you dont hunt with someone who you dont know. I see people do it all the time and it always makes me wonder what they are thinking. If you do it though atleats screen the person.......have them hual hay with you for minimum wage see what kind of work ethic they have. That would definately flush out the rats.
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2010, 09:28:50 am » |
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Thats a good reason why you dont hunt with someone who you dont know. I see people do it all the time and it always makes me wonder what they are thinking. If you do it though atleats screen the person.......have them hual hay with you for minimum wage see what kind of work ethic they have. That would definately flush out the rats.
Waylon
Sorry Waylon but you wont catch me haulin hay for minimum wage. Maybe for a few cold beers and a little BBQ. LOL I dont blame anyone for being cautious. Too many crooks out there.
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2010, 06:25:35 pm » |
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Thats a good reason why you dont hunt with someone who you dont know. I see people do it all the time and it always makes me wonder what they are thinking. If you do it though atleats screen the person.......have them hual hay with you for minimum wage see what kind of work ethic they have. That would definately flush out the rats.
Waylon
Sorry Waylon but you wont catch me haulin hay for minimum wage. Maybe for a few cold beers and a little BBQ. LOL I dont blame anyone for being cautious. Too many crooks out there. Well I thought cold beer when hualing hay was a given. The minum wage is just a bonus i guess. lol
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