Quote from Buddy Lee (Fellow Hog Dogger)

[Mike]

Raider, what the hell are you talking about???

This is a HOG HUNTING website, where people are passionate about breeding, raising and hunting HOG DOGS. So, when you comment about these dogs being too valuable to be advertised on here, but are being promoted as catch dogs... don't get your feelings hurt when questions are asked and eyebrows are raised. The history of the dogs are on here for everyone to see and read, that's why a lot of the questions were asked... I don't see where you were attacked?

[Cull Buck]

You see here's the thing......if someone is gonna put himself out there on the internet you better believe that person is going to get feedback and he may not like it.  

Raider this whole thread is because you got your feelings hurt when someone called your BS and your bruised ego can't take it.  Now was he right or are you right......I don't know and don't care, but I see you are the one still talking about it so it makes me wonder.  I've read one of your own post that said max was barking at a big hog in creek after it broke bay.  For you that may be okay but for some people that is absolutely unacceptable in a catchdog and wouldn't hunt it again.  But to then breed it and charge a premium.......

I don't know you and don't hold anything against you.  If you posted less and read more, we'd have less childish BS threads like this.

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

You see here's the thing......if someone is gonna put himself out there on the internet you better believe that person is going to get feedback and he may not like it.  

Raider this whole thread is because you got your feelings hurt when someone called your BS and your bruised ego can't take it.  Now was he right or are you right......I don't know and don't care, but I see you are the one still talking about it so it makes me wonder.  I've read one of your own post that said max was barking at a big hog in creek after it broke bay.  For you that may be okay but for some people that is absolutely unacceptable in a catchdog and wouldn't hunt it again.  But to then breed it and charge a premium.......

I don't know you and don't hold anything against you.  If you posted less and read more, we'd have less childish BS threads like this.

What is it you are really trying to say?   

[muleman]

You see here's the thing......if someone is gonna put himself out there on the internet you better believe that person is going to get feedback and he may not like it.  

Raider this whole thread is because you got your feelings hurt when someone called your BS and your bruised ego can't take it.  Now was he right or are you right......I don't know and don't care, but I see you are the one still talking about it so it makes me wonder.  I've read one of your own post that said max was barking at a big hog in creek after it broke bay.  For you that may be okay but for some people that is absolutely unacceptable in a catchdog and wouldn't hunt it again.  But to then breed it and charge a premium.......

I don't know you and don't hold anything against you.  If you posted less and read more, we'd have less childish BS threads like this.

I would like to nominate this for post of the year......just sayin

[DangerZone]

  cough,cough BS DRAMA, cough cough,,,

[WestTexasCurs]

 

[raider54]

Raider, what the hell are you talking about???

This is a HOG HUNTING website, where people are passionate about breeding, raising and hunting HOG DOGS. So, when you comment about these dogs being too valuable to be advertised on here, but are being promoted as catch dogs... don't get your feelings hurt when questions are asked and eyebrows are raised. The history of the dogs are on here for everyone to see and read, that's why a lot of the questions were asked... I don't see where you were attacked?

Mike I will take a chance on getting banned and ask you what you are talking about? I have never said these dogs were valuable at all I simply said I sell them for more than is reasonable for someone to pay for them as a catch dog, I dont think I can get any more honest or fair than that.
Secondly, I dont mind questions, but its hardly right when a moderator jumps on the thread suggesting that my pups come from an inferior blood line haveing never seen the papers on the mother or the father, and its hardly right that anyone slander another on this site when they have NO knowledge of what they are slandering them about. I try my best to be fair and reasonable with everyone but that is not what I got the other night. I was fortunate tha Circle C saw it for what it was.

[raider54]

You see here's the thing......if someone is gonna put himself out there on the internet you better believe that person is going to get feedback and he may not like it.  

Raider this whole thread is because you got your feelings hurt when someone called your BS and your bruised ego can't take it.  Now was he right or are you right......I don't know and don't care, but I see you are the one still talking about it so it makes me wonder.  I've read one of your own post that said max was barking at a big hog in creek after it broke bay.  For you that may be okay but for some people that is absolutely unacceptable in a catchdog and wouldn't hunt it again.  But to then breed it and charge a premium.......

I don't know you and don't hold anything against you.  If you posted less and read more, we'd have less childish BS threads like this.

I am very aware of that thread, I am the one that posted it! I have nothing to hide, he did do that once after running to a bay 1000 yds away that busted as soon as I turned him loose. It took 45 mins to get to him and when we got there he caught again. I know there were mixed opinions on it and I know what yours is. It never happened before and hasnt happened since, as for my ego, I seriously doubt anybody on here could bruise it! I didnt get my feelings hurt, I dont have any! but there were some lies told. As for what I was trying to say is, Is it really necassarry to pile on someone every time you get the chance regardless of whether you have an interest or not?

[UNDERDOG]

Raider, what the hell are you talking about???

This is a HOG HUNTING website, where people are passionate about breeding, raising and hunting HOG DOGS. So, when you comment about these dogs being too valuable to be advertised on here, but are being promoted as catch dogs... don't get your feelings hurt when questions are asked and eyebrows are raised. The history of the dogs are on here for everyone to see and read, that's why a lot of the questions were asked... I don't see where you were attacked?

Mike I will take a chance on getting banned and ask you what you are talking about? I have never said these dogs were valuable at all I simply said I sell them for more than is reasonable for someone to pay for them as a catch dog, I dont think I can get any more honest or fair than that.
Secondly, I dont mind questions, but its hardly right when a moderator jumps on the thread suggesting that my pups come from an inferior blood line haveing never seen the papers on the mother or the father, and its hardly right that anyone slander another on this site when they have NO knowledge of what they are slandering them about. I try my best to be fair and reasonable with everyone but that is not what I got the other night. I was fortunate tha Circle C saw it for what it was.

Raider,,,,,, I have one last thing to say as I assume I am the mod you are speaking of in the quote above.
As far as me suggesting your pups come from an inferior blood line...unless one of us is a liar then as I remember it when you were banned last time I callled you on the phone and talked with you a few min and I asked you specifically were your AB gyp came from and how she was bred and what you told me then does not match what you said on the thread that Chris locked. You told me you bought her on an impulse (I am paraphrasing) from Canton and you had NO IDEA how she was bred but yet in the locked thread all of a sudden you have hunted with her mothers side of the ped (I think thats what you said) and you are aware of how she is bred.

I don't care how much you sell them for nor am I jealous but I do think it is crappy selling dogs/pups from a gyp that bays and who don't work as potential catch dogs....to me just adding to the cull population. Why not not make the effort to find better dogs to start with and improve your odds and let your pet be a pet?

[raider54]

Raider, what the hell are you talking about???

This is a HOG HUNTING website, where people are passionate about breeding, raising and hunting HOG DOGS. So, when you comment about these dogs being too valuable to be advertised on here, but are being promoted as catch dogs... don't get your feelings hurt when questions are asked and eyebrows are raised. The history of the dogs are on here for everyone to see and read, that's why a lot of the questions were asked... I don't see where you were attacked?

Mike I will take a chance on getting banned and ask you what you are talking about? I have never said these dogs were valuable at all I simply said I sell them for more than is reasonable for someone to pay for them as a catch dog, I dont think I can get any more honest or fair than that.
Secondly, I dont mind questions, but its hardly right when a moderator jumps on the thread suggesting that my pups come from an inferior blood line haveing never seen the papers on the mother or the father, and its hardly right that anyone slander another on this site when they have NO knowledge of what they are slandering them about. I try my best to be fair and reasonable with everyone but that is not what I got the other night. I was fortunate tha Circle C saw it for what it was.

Raider,,,,,, I have one last thing to say as I assume I am the mod you are speaking of in the quote above.
As far as me suggesting your pups come from an inferior blood line...unless one of us is a liar then as I remember it when you were banned last time I callled you on the phone and talked with you a few min and I asked you specifically were your AB gyp came from and how she was bred and what you told me then does not match what you said on the thread that Chris locked. You told me you bought her on an impulse (I am paraphrasing) from Canton and you had NO IDEA how she was bred but yet in the locked thread all of a sudden you have hunted with her mothers side of the ped (I think thats what you said) and you are aware of how she is bred.

I don't care how much you sell them for nor am I jealous but I do think it is crappy selling dogs/pups from a gyp that bays and who don't work as potential catch dogs....to me just adding to the cull population. Why not not make the effort to find better dogs to start with and improve your odds and let your pet be a pet?

Bryant the gyp DONT BAY as you have said! SHE CATCHES! where are you getting your info? This is my point there is alot of misinformation here that is being promoted as fact, if it were happening to you or your friends you wouldnt stand for it. AS for our phone conversation, as I recall it is partially correct. I am not calling you a Liar, as the rules has it only you can call me one (Without consequences). I couldnt tell you how she was bred because I didnt have her papers in hand and I didnt remember I bought her frome hog hunting stock (by reputation) after I bought her I hunted with others from her line. I didnt advertize this last litter on this site because of the hazeing I got last year. For the record I am not passing them off as hog dogs, I have offered no guarentee on any of them. The ones out of the first litter that went to hog hunters ALL tell me thiers are catching fine, with Exception of Stroke which will not catch with another dog! But catches fine BY HIMSELF!
This thread wasnt directed at anyone yet it has seemed to really pi$$ a few people off. I must be missing something

[UNDERDOG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAhDZ0-H5bQ


I know you said before it was her first time in this vid and all but call a spade a spade........good luck with your crosses and I really hope they work for you and others. I can't seem to make my point to you w/o seeming like a butt hole. The ones who understand do........

[raider54]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAhDZ0-H5bQ


I know you said before it was her first time in this vid and all but call a spade a spade........good luck with your crosses and I really hope they work for you and others. I can't seem to make my point to you w/o seeming like a butt hole. The ones who understand do........

I do understand and I agree with you, 10 mins. after we shot this video she was catchin hard and has every other time she has been exposed to a hog, I bred her this last time to a much better male, atleast I knew more about his background. I do plan on improving each time. I cant be certain that I started in the right place but I will feel better about it when I see how this litter turns out. You never know I may have to start over.

[Scott]

Man, this thread reminds me of some that are generated out of NJ