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« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2011, 11:33:47 am » |
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A guy I hunt with alot took a Dogo in on a dog and equipment trade. I think that this dog was probably past his prime when he got him. He used his as a straight catch dog and did fine. Real easy to handle and was not a problem.
Another guy I hunted with only one time had 3 Dogos. He hunted south Texas alot and he hunted alot. You could tell that these dogs were well used by the scars. All of his dogs had some skin problems. They were pretty good dogs. The stuff looked like red mange to me.
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« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2011, 11:36:53 am » |
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T-Bob I will bring my puppy over and you can see.
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« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2011, 11:51:38 am » |
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them are some great pictures there , awsome lookin dogos also
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« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2011, 02:06:19 pm » |
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Thanks, the reason I ask is that I am in the process of building kennels behind my office and will be putting all the curs there. Dub has a decent idea of the hours I work and where I live, so with me being gone that much even though my wifes a good shot with her sawed off side by side i feel alot better knowing a bad ask dog is home with her. I am highly familiar with pits and have had several, but i have super high expectations of a dogs home front behavior. Even the slightest hint of animosityto my family and I will straight Michael Vick a dog. I'm starting to like the idea of a dogo.
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« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2011, 02:28:43 pm » |
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Even if the dog is working 4days a week like mine will in winter, themost time of its life will be spent at home with my daughter. How are the dogos REALLY? Don't just tell me their sweet as stripper kisses to save face. Honestly when compared to say a golden retriever or lab how would you rate their friendliness and loyalty?
As with any breed...depends on the dog and the bloodlines.
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« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2011, 02:51:02 pm » |
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T-Bob, mine is great around people/kids he knows... lil' spooky if he get's to bein' crowded with too many new people "pawing" at him... but then again, so am I!!!!  He was never socialized at all till I got him, around 4yr's old... So I'm real careful to control how much "social anxiety" I allow him to get into(not unlike myself  )... MY daughter I trust around him without question... new kids I'm about a half second away 'till I see him relax and accept them... It's not an aggression issue with him, more of a fear/defense from being crowded issue. He's the type of dog that just want's to be... not lookin' for trouble, just likes to hang out and be accepted as part of the family.... exactly the type of dog I like... I have, and will always love a pit... but with all pits, there's always a sense of "unpredictability" that comes with them... This Dogo is predictable, and I like that. Brain like a cur dog, catch like a pit... best of both worlds. Is he as hard mouthed as a pit? Hell no. Does he turn loose when it gets rough? Hell no.... Small hogs(under 200#'s) are a game to him, no reason for him to shut eyes and hold... get him on somethin' with some ass and he'll show you what it means to hold however.....  Does he regrip? Only to get a better mouthfull, other than that Hell no. Does he CONTROL a big hog(thereby reducing damage to all dogs by controlling the "sling" factor).... Hell yes!!!! (THIS is what I appreciate most about him as a catch dog.... He CONTROLS a hog, which takes the heat off my cur dogs big time... Caught another half dozen good hogs with him this wknd and my cur dogs are actually learning on their own to turn loose and catch their breath once Bucho gets there... never would have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes..... ... You know what the REAL testament to this Dogo is? My old school ranchers are asking me to breed him because they like him so much... Now THAT says volumes... These guys don't offer compliments on much... Now I just have to find a female to match...
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« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2011, 03:13:49 pm » |
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I think as always everybody gets their panties in a BIg WAD, because someone says THIS IS THE BEST AND MY WAY IS BETTER, and then SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS ONE TIME A FRIEND of mine told me he seen a dog screw up. FOLKS GET OVER ALL THAT!
The Reason the Dogo subject always goes South is because a few will say this is the best breed hands down and was made to do this job and absolute #1. JUST like anything else there are good specimens and bad specimans of the breed, problem is this board has some very experienced that have alot of experience with the breed and will tell you truthfully all the issues they have seen, and dealt with on a personal level, and when you compare the numbers of GOOD, REAL GOOD PROVEN dogs, healthy, dogs without allergies and that have good hearing, (alot of Hearing issues, Bilateral can still hear but can't pinpoint direction, and if you breed without actual testing in the woods or in a VET office you can't say for sure) Compared to all the junk and cull the PERCENTAGES OF THIS BREED being a "GOOD HUNTING dog" are not in your best advantage.
Alot of people claim their dogs are good hunters, and when those people making those claims Don't know how to hunt themselves, have NO business making these claims it only hurts the integrity of the breed that much more.
Unfortunately because many of the So called Dogo Breeders don't test for hearing, health and make sure they actually catch and hold when and where it counts, the breed will keep having this issue. I want to tell some of these MICKEY MOUSE BREEDERS something that might keep themselves from looking STUPID to people that actually use dogs to hunt in real situations- "A DOG THAT GRABS OR BITES IS NOT THE SAME Thing as Catching! a Catch Dog and a dog that bites a hog are not the same thing" If everybody got on the same page heir would be alot less misunderstanding and argueing.
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« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2011, 03:19:49 pm » |
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Very true Krystal!!! Tell 'em how it is sister!!!! 
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« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2011, 03:47:39 pm » |
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I hear you, fortunately I'm not in a big rush for one, I have had a change of heart when it comes to certain dogs. I truly hate having to cull, ive had too many arguments with the wife over dogs she loved that didn't make. That being said ive become much more selective in my choices. I think when i finally make my move on a catchdog, it'll be an AB but I'm not ruling anything out yet.
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« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2011, 06:16:20 pm » |
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Uglydog, you said a mouthful right there...  If we all knew what a good hunting/strike dog is there wouldn't be so many culls out there. Same thing with catch dogs...
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« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2011, 07:32:43 pm » |
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Krystal is so true. I am also on a Dogo board. I have never heard so many people claim to test prey drive. How about just hunting the dog. I hear some talk about breeding a cull to get certain properties. I know it can work to develop a cross or a line. But with a breed? I hear the yippen but not about culling. If a dog throws culls then stop breeding it. I don't care if people are paying stupid money for them. I love the Dogo but it is not a miracle just a dog I really like. But breeders need to cull hard.
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« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2011, 07:20:23 am » |
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those double catch picks are awesome....my father in law had a dogo that was one of the best catch dogs i have ever seen....constantly had to doctor him for skin allergies though.
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« Reply #54 on: April 13, 2011, 01:47:45 am » |
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Even if the dog is working 4days a week like mine will in winter, themost time of its life will be spent at home with my daughter. How are the dogos REALLY? Don't just tell me their sweet as stripper kisses to save face. Honestly when compared to say a golden retriever or lab how would you rate their friendliness and loyalty?
Just wrote a paper on BSL about pit bulls and here is a quote that I used in my paper. Several years ago the American Temperament Test Society ranked the Pit Bill fourth in best temperament out of all the breeds tested. Due to irresponsible owners, in more recent studies with more breeds included, the Pit Bulls numerical rank and passing rate has gone down but they still remain, with an 82.3% passing rate, slightly higher than the “All American Family Dog”, the Golden Retriever which has a passing rate of 80.2%. Their passing rate is also slightly higher than the average American dog that has a passing rate of 80.2% (Cohen and Richardson 288). I would trust my dogo with an infant for hours by himself, just like I would a well bred, well socialized pit. Chainrated... Im in college and only have my 70 lbs runt dogo with me at school in lubbock tx. Here in lubbock hogs are few and far between. Took him out after him not bein hunted in over a month. He struck and caught a good size sow. Dont know many pits that can do this. Point here is, to each his own. Both dogos and pits make good hog dogs. If you can bay up a hog and walk in 30 yrs to turn a catch dog loose, lucky you, get a pit. Cheap, you may go through a few before you find the right one but oh well. If you need somethin more than get a dogo. My runt ass dogo doesnt regrip and has never curred out. Every breed has its problems, including pit. I have a buddy that has givin up on pit cuz he has probably culled 15+ in the past six months, hunts strait cur dogs now. I promise you, if you are at the right breeder, you wont cull any dogos, just like if you are at the right breeder you wont cull any pits. Anyone that has hunted behind my runt will testify that he is the real deal and would rather have him as a catch dog than any pit. There are many reasons behind this... he can hunt by himself, hes smart, you can let him go from hundreds, even 1000 yrds out if needed, and he is very people friendly... to the people he should be, like I said, he is smart. And like I said before, both pits and dogos make good hog dogs, just depends on what you need.
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« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2011, 06:32:42 am » |
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Tcolt, every breeder of anybreed is gonna have culls. If they don't, they're most likely just breeding for the cash.
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« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2011, 07:56:04 am » |
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Tcolt, every breeder of anybreed is gonna have culls. If they don't, they're most likely just breeding for the cash.
And if they tell you they don't have any culls...run away as fast as you can. Their either liars, or their standards are too low (and that goes for dogs/breeders of any breed). I really don't understand why always the comparison's to APBTs. But, the fact of the matter is that most don't know what a true (real) APBT is. Always get a good laugh out of those asking about "Blue nose", "gator mouth", etc.
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« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2011, 08:40:01 am » |
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The comparison to pits is because people have seen pits hunt. But they are completely different breeds.
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« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2011, 10:06:01 am » |
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TColt you know Ive given up on Catch Dogs but you also know Soco is welcome in my pack any day. Dedicated Dogo for sure. 12 years of culling, raising, and hunting dogs and he is the most dedicated CD ive seen. For breaking hogs, i really don't think you can beat him. This runt as you call him, will pass up your bay dogs and shut the hog down. I haven't seen any catchdogs do that. Keep in mind guys TColt's is a runt and is below average in size. 70pounds of solid muscle and and some good legs to him. Great dog in my book.
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« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2011, 10:20:15 am » |
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Were can I order a 70 lbs, red Dogo like Soco? I want one! I don't care to much for white dogs in general. They always look dirty.  Dirty!........... I think I just found the name for my next white dog.
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