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« on: May 18, 2011, 06:35:11 pm » |
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Hey, I have a year old baydog that will catch after he gets familiar with a hog. I have gotten fresh hogs and he will bay the first day and then usually catch the second or third time that he bays that hog. These are 115-125 lb hogs fresh out of traps. At the baypen competition he wouldn't even get withing 8-10 feet of a big or strange hog. Any thoughts other than getting a new pig everytime we bay or having a really big pig to deal with at home?
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« Last Edit: May 22, 2011, 09:51:56 am by Slim »
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2011, 06:42:53 pm » |
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Are you training a competitive pen dog? If so, get him to his breaking point and keep at it .
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2011, 08:04:32 pm » |
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if i get a dog that i dont want to be catchy i just cut their k9 teeth out, and they will slide off when they catch, or you can let them meet their match in a small pen
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tmatt
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2011, 11:34:13 am » |
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WTF? I understand not wanting a dog to catch or be catchy but cutting their canines off is a little much. If you aren't smart enough to train the dog not too catch then get rid of it. If you do do that, don't post it on any boards. That just gives the ARA more ammo to use against us. JMHO!
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 11:39:45 am » |
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lol a dog can catch just fine with out canines and if you dont want a catchy dog sale it dont cause it pain to try and get what you want
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 11:48:22 am » |
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Had a dog just like that he would bay fresh pigs then hed catch em i figured he just knew he could whoop em after the first day so hed cut to the chase and catch he became my best strike dog hed bay in the woods until another dog got there and tried it if it were in the range you mentioned. I think youll be happy with him unless your lookin for a catchy dog. And for god sakes leave his canines in they are there for a reason
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DangerZone
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2011, 01:09:12 pm » |
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Slim, I have been working to make a dog of mine less gritty in the pen and what I've done is tie the hog by the hind leg on one side of the pen (short rope) or on a stake if out side the pen, then i use a 10 ft long lead on my dog hooked on the back of the neck and down the back to his mid section loop under him and back though so when he pulls to hard or i pull on the lead it tightens up on his genitals, when he goes to catch just give a little tug and he'll back up I also use a voice command just before i tug and when i tug on the lead,( works like a shock collar with a warning beep). my male has picked up on it real quick, i almost got him where i can voice command him loose or tight in the pen. this may not work for you but it has for me so far.. Good luck, this technic is very slimmilar to force breaking a bird dog to retreive when commanded to flush.
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2011, 02:25:02 pm » |
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Slim, I have been working to make a dog of mine less gritty in the pen and what I've done is tie the hog by the hind leg on one side of the pen (short rope) or on a stake if out side the pen, then i use a 10 ft long lead on my dog hooked on the back of the neck and down the back to his mid section loop under him and back though so when he pulls to hard or i pull on the lead it tightens up on his genitals, when he goes to catch just give a little tug and he'll back up I also use a voice command just before i tug and when i tug on the lead,( works like a shock collar with a warning beep). my male has picked up on it real quick, i almost got him where i can voice command him loose or tight in the pen. this may not work for you but it has for me so far.. Good luck, this technic is very slimmilar to force breaking a bird dog to retreive when commanded to flush.
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2011, 02:27:07 pm » |
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if i get a dog that i dont want to be catchy i just cut their k9 teeth out, and they will slide off when they catch, or you can let them meet their match in a small pen
Is this serious? 
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You don't see it a lot any more because most folks kill the hogs. People that used to work hogs would clip the canines flush with the other teeth so the dog wouldn't tear the hogs up.
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You don't see it a lot any more because most folks kill the hogs. People that used to work hogs would clip the canines flush with the other teeth so the dog wouldn't tear the hogs up.
right and if they have no k9 teeth they cant hold a big hog they have to bay him, you see alot of older people doing it, and tmatt a catchy dog is gonna get alot more pain from being catchy than getting a few teeth clipped out think about it, and your right im probably not smart enough to train a dog i mean i just started hunting yesterday
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Slim, I have been working to make a dog of mine less gritty in the pen and what I've done is tie the hog by the hind leg on one side of the pen (short rope) or on a stake if out side the pen, then i use a 10 ft long lead on my dog hooked on the back of the neck and down the back to his mid section loop under him and back though so when he pulls to hard or i pull on the lead it tightens up on his genitals, when he goes to catch just give a little tug and he'll back up I also use a voice command just before i tug and when i tug on the lead,( works like a shock collar with a warning beep). my male has picked up on it real quick, i almost got him where i can voice command him loose or tight in the pen. this may not work for you but it has for me so far.. Good luck, this technic is very slimmilar to force breaking a bird dog to retreive when commanded to flush.
 i think that some body needs to put a rope around your genitals in the same contraption and send you to work and when you dont do it like they want say something and then pull  like hell then you could see how it feels and you might do what they say but you wont like it very much I think you need another method of training
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sounds to me your trying to turn a good dog in to a potlicker to me. and putting a rope around the dogs jewels is just wrong let your wife put a rope on you and pull it tight every time you dont do what she wants and see if you like that method
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Slim, I have been working to make a dog of mine less gritty in the pen and what I've done is tie the hog by the hind leg on one side of the pen (short rope) or on a stake if out side the pen, then i use a 10 ft long lead on my dog hooked on the back of the neck and down the back to his mid section loop under him and back though so when he pulls to hard or i pull on the lead it tightens up on his genitals, when he goes to catch just give a little tug and he'll back up I also use a voice command just before i tug and when i tug on the lead,( works like a shock collar with a warning beep). my male has picked up on it real quick, i almost got him where i can voice command him loose or tight in the pen. this may not work for you but it has for me so far.. Good luck, this technic is very slimmilar to force breaking a bird dog to retreive when commanded to flush.
I use this method all the time to walk a pulling bulldog thru the woods! It doesnt hurt them at all just keeps them from pulling and gives you a little control!
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I use this method all the time to walk a pulling bulldog thru the woods! It doesnt hurt them at all just keeps them from pulling and gives you a little control!
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Slim, I have been working to make a dog of mine less gritty in the pen and what I've done is tie the hog by the hind leg on one side of the pen (short rope) or on a stake if out side the pen, then i use a 10 ft long lead on my dog hooked on the back of the neck and down the back to his mid section loop under him and back though so when he pulls to hard or i pull on the lead it tightens up on his genitals, when he goes to catch just give a little tug and he'll back up I also use a voice command just before i tug and when i tug on the lead,( works like a shock collar with a warning beep). my male has picked up on it real quick, i almost got him where i can voice command him loose or tight in the pen. this may not work for you but it has for me so far.. Good luck, this technic is very slimmilar to force breaking a bird dog to retreive when commanded to flush.
he isnt talkin about putting a rope around the dogs nuts... its his belly, right before the hind legs. so some of yall need to read a lil better before bashing on this guy. this method works great. i can make a cd lead to a bay like a pro in a couple hunts using this method..... nothing wrong with it. also works on females
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OOOOOOOPS. I must have misread all of these posts. I have been sharpening all my dogs teeth with a chainsaw sharpner and had barbed wire wrapped around all their nu#s along with nipple rings tied together with rubber bands. Was wondering why me neighbors thought my dogs were into S&M. But they been hunting better. Just hard to find cut gear made out of shiny black leather with matching assless chaps.
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OOOOOOOPS. I must have misread all of these posts. I have been sharpening all my dogs teeth with a chainsaw sharpner and had barbed wire wrapped around all their nu#s along with nipple rings tied together with rubber bands. Was wondering why me neighbors thought my dogs were into S&M. But they been hunting better. Just hard to find cut gear made out of shiny black leather with matching assless chaps. lmao now that is some kinky chit there!!! i Slim, I have been working to make a dog of mine less gritty in the pen and what I've done is tie the hog by the hind leg on one side of the pen (short rope) or on a stake if out side the pen, then i use a 10 ft long lead on my dog hooked on the back of the neck and down the back to his mid section loop under him and back though so when he pulls to hard or i pull on the lead it tightens up on his genitals, when he goes to catch just give a little tug and he'll back up I also use a voice command just before i tug and when i tug on the lead,( works like a shock collar with a warning beep). my male has picked up on it real quick, i almost got him where i can voice command him loose or tight in the pen. this may not work for you but it has for me so far.. Good luck, this technic is very slimmilar to force breaking a bird dog to retreive when commanded to flush.
 i think that some body needs to put a rope around your genitals in the same contraption and send you to work and when you dont do it like they want say something and then pull  like hell then you could see how it feels and you might do what they say but you wont like it very much I think you need another method of training this works great!!! if u got alotta bay pen comps u see lots of handlers doen the same thing!!!! i would`nt change a thing dangerzone!!!
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You don't see it a lot any more because most folks kill the hogs. People that used to work hogs would clip the canines flush with the other teeth so the dog wouldn't tear the hogs up.
Wow clipping the canines.....Thats seems like some backwoods number 2 to me. Its not like clipping tusk off a hog..
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