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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2011, 06:03:34 pm »

  And I don't like a bulldog to come off on comand IMO train wreck waiting to happen

x2... Yep, that would suck to have a someone yellin/jumping around the hog and the CD let go...  Shocked

A lot better that'll would think. It works fine. Nothing worse than fighting a dog to stop doing anything they don't want to quit. HANDLE, HANDLE, and more HANDLE!!!!
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2011, 06:07:16 pm »

He did say hat across the face! Maybe thats the only way they let go  Huh?
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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2011, 06:08:43 pm »

Never had a problem with them letting go, have had them thrown off a few times and it gets a little interesting.  I've known a few dogs that would see you had the hog and leave the country go to get another, you'd better have hold of them then....

I wish I had one like that now....

Just a matter of preference and training for that preference.  I find it a lot easier to kill, throw or tie a hog (particularly a big one) with no or just one dog on it.

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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2011, 06:35:13 pm »

x3 but i do like for a CD to have an off switch when he aint caught!!! nothen worse then a CD that wants to act a fool after the catch, and on a dead hog is even worse!!!
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« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2011, 06:35:53 pm »

Dj, here are the ones I use ..

I like the break stick myself...here are some I have been useing for bout 20 years...used to use them out of oak or hickory but this teflon type material is strong yet soft on the dogs teeth.
If used right you can break one off as quick as any thing.

Someone mentioned how to use them, you must get them all the way across the dogs mouth then turn, notice on the longer stick the teeth marks far back near the handle. The shorter one used to be about 2" longer but a hod broke it lol






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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2011, 06:40:53 pm »

under dog are those made out of a cutting board?
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« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2011, 06:44:59 pm »

under dog are those made out of a cutting board?

Yep. We used to do alot of restaurant remodels and bought it bu the 4. X 8 sheets.
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« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2011, 08:16:38 pm »

  I know that everyone has their own preferences, but I would never want my dogs to let go of a hog on command. EVER. The reason is because we have been on some really big rank boar hogs with large shanks and in the middle of trying to get that type of hog flipped and tied, I don't want my dog to think that he heard a comand to "release". Then you would be in deep doo doo! But thats just my opinion.

 I once knew a guy who was so proud because he had taught his horse to stop on a dime when he said " whoa " until one day we were pushing some cattle and a yearling broke and ran. He took off on his horse at lighting speed to rope it. He hollared back to someone else to "ROPE IT" and the horse thought he said "WHOA"!  Cheesy ....the horse came to a dead stop like he had trained it to and the guy riding it kept on going!  Cheesy
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« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2011, 08:31:01 pm »

I agree a catch dog better not let go when he hears anyone saying anything bc there is alot of times when the other dogs catch to and i do tell them to let go or get off and i dont want the cd to think i mean him, that would be bad news.
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« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2011, 09:15:00 pm »

there is a difference between getting a bulldogs attention and then giving the command and the dog just thinking he heard the command to release . just like i have to make sure my boys are listening when i tell them to get their boots on , it's time to go ! lol

i'd say dogs that can be taught the difference are not the norm , but i have seen some .

   i don't have alot of experiance with bulldogs .
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« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2011, 10:00:55 pm »

Its all about having a handle and starting with a dog that has brains. The catch dogs we use walk beside the horses until the curs bay then go in for the catch. They don't necessarily wait for you to send them but can be called back if you want them to wait. Once the hog is flipped we say caught hog and one person can pull the dog off. We have never had a dog let go early because someone said caught hog on accident or he thought he heard the command and we have never had to use a break stick or cut a hogs ear off either. This is just what has worked for us. To each their own.   
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« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2011, 10:28:19 pm »

I agree with Toby, letting a hog go becuase it thought I called it off has never been a problem for me, ever.  Some young dogs will let go when they see you coming, because they can think that they are in trouble, my older dogs wouldn't do it. 

In practice most dogs are harder to get off the big boars than sows and smaller pig, cause they like catching them.

I don't understand why you'd want a dog on a pig if your trying to tie it?  Also how would you tie a hog on you own with a dog on the ear?

I can't speak for everyone here dogs that are  "too hard" are not desired here.  Again each to own, just one of the ways that we are different.
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« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2011, 10:33:05 pm »

yeah I'm keepin' mine straight pit. My cd started out as a house dog then we started using her on mock hunts to get the hog gathered up and she would catch but not try to rip its head off. I just started pulling on her cut collar, tap her on the nose, tell her "caught hog". and she don't just let go I'm pulling her off at the same time just waiting for her to loosen just a tad to come off. When i take people hunting that is the first thing I tell them is to not say anything about a caught hog lol she ain't let go on me until I've got a hold of her. but she's one in a million. Her son is a year old and starting to be just like her only a lot bigger.
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« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2011, 11:17:37 pm »

I agree with Toby, letting a hog go becuase it thought I called it off has never been a problem for me, ever.  Some young dogs will let go when they see you coming, because they can think that they are in trouble, my older dogs wouldn't do it.  

In practice most dogs are harder to get off the big boars than sows and smaller pig, cause they like catching them.

I don't understand why you'd want a dog on a pig if your trying to tie it?  Also how would you tie a hog on you own with a dog on the ear?

I can't speak for everyone here dogs that are  "too hard" are not desired here.  Again each to own, just one of the ways that we are different.


A dog that catches hard is like insurance to me. If I am muddy and wet and the hog is muddy and slippery, I could make a mistake and it could get loose and turn on me. But if my catch dog holds it until I have its legs tied up, then I don't have to worry about it. One accident with a hog can make a persons day go bad.  Shocked

 Oh, and the type of catch dog Im refering to would never bark at a hog. They are all catch and hold solid.
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« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2011, 01:26:15 am »

x2 I have hunted alot by myself, and i flip and tie, then worry about gettin the dogs off. No need in takin unecessary chances.
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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2011, 07:24:08 am »

i wouldnt want mine to let go on a comand. i just choke her and she comes off after a few seconds. but, i do like em to calm down once you got the hog caught and them pulled off. dont like one to pull on a lead constantly and start barking after you tie em off.
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« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2011, 07:29:30 am »

i aint never been a fan of a Dane either, but thats a good looking dog.
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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2011, 07:38:26 am »

kinda shocked those Manly shaped break sticks Mr Love was trying to sell a while back aint showed up in this thread yet.  Wink Cheesy Grin
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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2011, 07:38:41 am »

Trent if you would leave Alan at the truck you would not have to worry about anyone jumping and yelling when a hog is caught!!!! Grin Grin Grin   When we going to go hunt?? Im out all summer....I know you are going... Grin  I hear you got ya a boat now
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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2011, 07:42:37 am »

Dj, here are the ones I use ..

I like the break stick myself...here are some I have been useing for bout 20 years...used to use them out of oak or hickory but this teflon type material is strong yet soft on the dogs teeth.
If used right you can break one off as quick as any thing.

Someone mentioned how to use them, you must get them all the way across the dogs mouth then turn, notice on the longer stick the teeth marks far back near the handle. The shorter one used to be about 2" longer but a hod broke it lol







This is one that a friend made for us. Yours are bigger and have more of a point to them.
 
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