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« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2011, 04:50:36 pm »

We don't need no damn civil war thats the last thing we need,  we need unity people to come together as one and clean this damn government out .  What we need is somebody to become the mouth of the South and get this info out to the media a natural born leader tha wants to lead and will not take no for a anwser a real  christan with some Balls  that has the faith and the will power to get it done a eye for a eye a tooth for a tooth, somebody that is willing to die for his beliefs strong like we use to be    .  We all rise as one power with one goal in mind and get this crap straightened out !   Clean these hole in the butts that are bought and paid for out of office and get new raw talent in there that wants to make a mark somebody hungry !

A civil war is the last thing we need it would make us much weaker and exposed to other country's that are just itching to get there fangs in us .

No we need to all come together as a people and one nation under God set aside some of our differences no one person is 100 % correct and mold as one a.nd this thing will get right other wise we are in for a hell of a ride !

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« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2011, 05:56:27 pm »

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Our Generation mine and yours is suffering and will continue to suffer but that is noting like the next generation is going to suffer if they don't open there eyes and pull their head out of their asses !  Have you ever thought about are wondered Reuben why they call this generation, the one after our Generation,  Generation X Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh???  That was not by accident my friends !
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« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2011, 09:04:25 pm »

 Soon, we will have a new form of government. It's called a Parliament. We have been under their rule for about 80 years anyway, but it will be interesting to watch how they step out from behind the curtain. I'm sure like everything else, we will all be under the illusion that we chose them. I mean chose it. Parliament.
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« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2011, 09:05:34 pm »

We don't need no damn civil war thats the last thing we need,  we need unity people to come together as one and clean this damn government out .  What we need is somebody to become the mouth of the South and get this info out to the media a natural born leader tha wants to lead and will not take no for a anwser a real  christan with some Balls  that has the faith and the will power to get it done a eye for a eye a tooth for a tooth, somebody that is willing to die for his beliefs strong like we use to be    .  We all rise as one power with one goal in mind and get this crap straightened out !   Clean these hole in the butts that are bought and paid for out of office and get new raw talent in there that wants to make a mark somebody hungry !

A civil war is the last thing we need it would make us much weaker and exposed to other country's that are just itching to get there fangs in us .

No we need to all come together as a people and one nation under God set aside some of our differences no one person is 100 % correct and mold as one a.nd this thing will get right other wise we are in for a hell of a ride !

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I couldnt agree more.  Ill leave you with this thought.  If the frontline fighting people in this country (law enforcement specifically) are arming themselves in preparation for the possible (and i use that term loosely) coming urest (not so much to keep peace but to protect them and theirs) doesnt that say something?  not saying im in that group but alot of people smarter than me are cashing in their gold for lead.  Just a thought.
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« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2011, 01:38:00 am »

We all seem to agree that the govt that is in place right now needs to be dismantled and a new one started. My question is where do we begin and how do we get this started. The easy part is done, now let's get to the hard part, the doing. I have talked to numerous people about this and everyone agrees but noone knows where or how to get it rolling.
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« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2011, 04:21:34 pm »

We all seem to agree that the govt that is in place right now needs to be dismantled and a new one started. My question is where do we begin and how do we get this started. The easy part is done, now let's get to the hard part, the doing. I have talked to numerous people about this and everyone agrees but noone knows where or how to get it rolling.



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« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2011, 04:36:17 pm »

We all seem to agree that the govt that is in place right now needs to be dismantled and a new one started. My question is where do we begin and how do we get this started. The easy part is done, now let's get to the hard part, the doing. I have talked to numerous people about this and everyone agrees but noone knows where or how to get it rolling.

I believe the American public has become disconnected from the workings of our government...

I think a greater breakdown of the democratic system would help this.  Each town should elect a representative, hell, a delegation to communicate with the closest city representative(s)... people that can ask the questions that should hold our government accountable...  those city representatives should in turn elect state representatives, do the same, and so on... similar to what the system is now, but more in touch with the lower levels... 

These days... all we know about who is running our country is what the media has decided to paint him to be... THAT is unacceptable. 

I agree the system is not working as we know it, but before a coup(which I am certainly not opposed to), I feel there should certainly be a good replacement in mind...

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« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2011, 06:40:28 pm »

...next is our monetary system.... The Federal Reserve has been raping us for too long...

This is a fairly intense read, but basically tries to point out the flaws of our current monetary system... a system based on debt... not wealth.
http://www.wealthmoney.org/articles/why-american-needs-a-new-monetary-system/

An interesting solution to an obvious problem...
http://www.wealthmoney.org/articles/american-transportation-act/
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« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2011, 12:09:23 am »

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« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2011, 08:36:05 am »

 hey tamatt out of the those numerous people you talked to, would actually man up and fight, or die to get this current political body removed? the question of how to do it is simple get the majority of the country to sign a petition ask for the entire government body to step down. Now the hard part is is conviencing all those people to sign the petition. to get the ball rolling, it needs to be done in mass nubers, not 1s and 2s around the country. if you took 2500 people and they could get 10 like inded people to join the cause, and out of those 10 you selected, get them to find 10 more to join the cause, and they have to stick it out till the end or death which ever comes first. if you took all those people, and mmarched on the government, UNARMED at first and ask for the step down you may have a chance, but the years of legal issues will allow them to continue to ruin and polute our country even more. its gonna take people to take up armms against them and remove them by force. You wont find that many people who will sacraifce their lives for the freedom of the rest of blind and chicken chit people out there that just want a hand out or something for free from the sweat of the working class.
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« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2011, 09:07:21 am »

I appreciate your enthusiasm Charles... and I would not hesitate to pick up arms... but the forceful removal of our government would be the easy part I'm afraid...

You up and kick out what's in there right now... there's legions of more self serving bureaucrats waiting like vultures in the flanks...

WHO decides the replacement ? 

Finding men and women of strong moral character to lead.... with a long term vision for the prosperty of our country should be the first item on any revolutionary check list...
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« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2011, 09:30:57 am »

The petition thing would be a great wake up call for the idiots that have somehow gotten elected, I hope at least.  Here's the deal with taking up arms though.  It won't be taking up arms against politicians, it will be against the military, and you're gonna have to beat the military in order to do it.  That's not gonna happen.  All you'll do is give those in charge a bigger hammer and an excuse to use it. 
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« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2011, 10:15:47 am »

if you cant beat them join them, vote them out and place people you can trust to wedge their way into it  Wink

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« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2011, 01:50:00 pm »

So let's get the petition going. Where do we start? I am sure it would have to be worded in some specific way for it to be considered a legal document.
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« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2011, 02:35:58 pm »

 tmatt here try this. it says who elects a new government.

 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are
created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with
certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty
and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights,
governments are instituted among men, deriving their just
powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any
form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is
the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute
new government, laying its foundation on such principles and
organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem
most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

catchercall. it wouldnt be the military i would end up fighting it is the 250,000+ civil military. the government has as many, if not more civilian military to protect the government. if i did end up against the military, i would give soldiers a chance to change sides or face the consiquences. I used to be a soldier myself, i litteraly broke my back for the military, and now as you, having my benifits and pay threatened by them a-holes in washington. I have the training, some weapons and equipment and knowledge to hide from flir and nvg and to see those who can see me in the night aswell.
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