CHDA TEXAS BAY SEPT 23

[kaycee]

We are hosting the CHDA TX  bay on the 23th.
this is for NALC registered dogs only.

Its $40 an entry ( each entry consists of 2 - 1 dog runs and 1 - 2 dog run )
you must bring a copy of your nalc papers for the book keeper.

Every dog must wear a vest. 

Call out required, you have 2 min. after your 2 min. run to get your dog out of the pen..failure to do so results in a DQ.  The hog is not removed from the pen until you have removed your dog.  Pen help is not provided in the endeavor...

Books open at 3 p.m. and the bay is supposed to start at 4 p.m.  on SEpt. 23, 2011

two judge rule, scores are combined

no concession available

There is a $5 gate fee, spectators welcome..

For more info call Tori Earls at 601-757-4651..

gps - 1582 cr 1183 sulphur springs tx 75482

[kaycee]

CHDA RESULTS

1-dog
1st - SC hunter's Jose,  Mark and Heather Green
2nd - 3 way tie
        SC Hunter's Jasper, Mark and Heather Green
        J Cross' Checkers, Craig Reid
        Autry's Charlie, Charles Koepp
3rd - Rocky Point's LJ, Lew Jones
4th - Salty Dog's Annie Oakley, Mark and Heather Green

2-dog
1st - Rocky Point's LJ and Wager's Cajun Queen, Lew Jones
2nd - South Paw's Medussa and Moffitt'sIsabella, Lew Jones
3rd - 2 way tie
        White Rock's Mighty Tyson and El Dorado's Billie Jean, Bridgitte Knapp
        J Cross' Checkers and J Cross' Ammunition, Craig Reid
4th - Salty Dog's Annie Oakley and SC Hunter's Jose, Mark and Heather Green

High Point Male - SC Hunter's Jose, Mark and Heather Green

Reserve High Point Male - J Cross' Checkers, Craig Reid

High Point female - Wager's Cajun Queen, Lew Jones
(El Dorado's Billie Jean, Bridgitte Knapp passed on it)

Reserve High Point Female - Salty Dog's Annie Oakley, Mark and Heather Green

[hog tied]

I have a question... Did Lew run his dogs in that pen before the actual event?

[kaycee]

To the best of my knowledge the only dog that placed that has not ran in this pen at some time prior to the CHDA bay here is J Cross' Checkers... NOBODY gets to bay the hogs used for a month before the bay.  Lew actually got to see some of the hogs on Wed. night when Carey and I bayed through them to let Autry make his final decision on what hogs he was going to use to make sure that ya'll got an even set of hogs. We bayed about 16 head of hogs and only 6 were used.  Even I didn't know what set he was going to use until he told me which ones to cut out of which pen about 30 min. before the bay started.  Travis got to bay here the week before the bay but he was fixing a problem area on his dog, he had gotten to rough and wanted to catch everything.  Most people don't want to bay the hogs he bayed unless they have too. Also Travis didn't run in the competition, he did run after it was over on one of the hogs that was used so Tori could see that the problem his dog had had was resolved...  By the way my name is Kelley Boyd, what's your real name?

[hog tied]

I'm not saying he bayed those hogs... I'm asking if he ran his dogs in that pen on any hog in the days leading up to the bay?

[BIG CHRIS]

I have a question... Did Lew run his dogs in that pen before the actual event?

I'm not saying he bayed those hogs... I'm asking if he ran his dogs in that pen on any hog in the days leading up to the bay?

autry and kelley have one simple rule no dog will be allowed to work in there pen, a month before any comp that will enter. and mean woman his name is justin green. and if my memory serves me well he had a dog that would not even go to hog.

[hog tied]

Well thank you big chris for clarifying that! It was only a question right? I didn't accuse or attack anybody did I? I happen to think it was a very nice bay.

[hog tied]

You nailed it bud....they wouldn't go to a hog at all

[hog tied]

[BIG CHRIS]

Well thank you big chris for clarifying that! It was only a question right? I didn't accuse or attack anybody did I? I happen to think it was a very nice bay.

 i answered 2 questions and made it where u might have been recognized! never said u attackted anyone did i? just maken it clear as to what was and what is. and ur very welcome

[hog tied]

The ? still remains. Did he run dogs in that pen in the days leading up to that bay? Unless you were there, your not qualified to answer the question. I have met both Autry and Kelley and conversed with the both of them. Very nice people, I don't have one negative thing to say about either of them. It is just a question. Rumors were flying about it so I asked. No better place to get the right answer than the horses mouth.

[BIG CHRIS]

out of respect that u should have for them seeing as they are nice ppl, dnt u think that could have been a question over the phone or on a pm? you where there at the bayen why not ask them then? to ask something like that on here is kinda like a slap to the face.

[hog tied]

If I would have heard about it then, I would have. When put like that I guess your right, it could be perceived as a slap in the face. However, that certainly wasn't my intention.

[jcrosscatahoulas]

Autry and Kelley hosted an excellent bay for our CHDA bay, this year as well as last year.  The hogs, pen and set up were super.  As before any bay, as is typical of most any where, one normally wouldn't practice in that pen for a minimum of one month prior.  HOWEVER, that is an unspoken rule that is typically followed by competitors, not governed by pen owners. 

It will be added to the list of changes for the 2012 season.  We've already implemented things to try to make it better for everyone as a whole, meaning anyone in the sport, not just registered dogs, but open competitors as well.  While we only allow registered catahoulas in a CHDA bay, we're well aware that conducting ourselves in a manner to not hinder forward progress for the sport, is vital.

It is the CHDA's desire to bring to the table a level of excellence that far surpasses the industry "standard."  In doing so, we hope to help preserve hog dog trials, as well as the working hog dog performance especially for the catahoula breed.

This isn't the first time in CHDA history that someone has taken the kindness of pen owners to their advantage.  Yes, dogs perform better when given the opportunity to become accustomed to the pen.  They also perform better the more they're hauled.  Beginning with the new CHDA points year, Nov. 2011, any dog practicing in a pen less than 31 days prior to an event will be disqualified for that competition.  The CHDA certainly realizes that any dog competing will have a bay pen that is more "comfortable" to them, as we all must have somewhere to practice to give the dogs an opportunity to improve, it is, however, a bit of an unfair advantage to have a dog in that pen immediately preceding a competition.  This will still fall on the shoulders of the handlers integrity, I cannot and will not ask the pen owner to allow the CHDA to choose who may and who may not be allowed to practice at their pens.  Without the pen owner, the CHDA would only have ONE place to host a hog dog trial.

With that said, the integrity of the bay is only as good as the integrity of the competitors.

As president of the CHDA, I would like to say a huge THANK YOU to, not only Autry and Kelley, but to all of the bay pen owners that host our trials and allow us to display and preserve the working hog dog heritage for the catahoula breed. 

[old cowboy]

Here is the lastest report for L.J. for the months of Sept,2011 thru Nov.2011 C.H.D.A. bay in Tx, 1st 2 dog bay, 3rd 1 dog bay, N.A.L.C. in Tx. 2nd 2 dog bay, Rockin H open bay in Tx., 1st ama 2 dog bay, Triple R open bay,1st ama 2 dog bay, C.H.D.A. nationals in Miss.--Nationals High Piont Dog, Top Ten First Place,C.H.D.A. National Trial winner, and High Piont Of the Year, N.A.L.C. in Miss. 2nd 2 dog bay. High Point Male, He is now back home laying under my feet.

[old cowboy]

Here is the report for Moffit's Isabella fo Sept thru Nov. 2011. C.H.D.A. in Tx. her and Medussa took 2nd place in 2 dog, and in C.H.D.A. in Miss. she was Reserve High In trial Female

[old cowboy]

Report on Cajun Queen for Sept to Nov. for 2011, C.H.D.A. in Tx, Hi Point female, 1st in 2 dog, N.A.L.C. in Tx. 2nd in 2 dog, C.H.D.A. in Miss. High Piont female

[TinyTexasCowgirl]

Jcross, I am not involve with this in any way, but if I'm confused, then so might other people.

Are you saying a dog cannot practice in ANY pen before a CHDA baying? If so, that seems a little extreme. I mean, in any event, you are going to be practicing your butt off before game day, so how can you expect any different from your dogs baying?

This is all IMHO, and I might have misunderstood.

[moffittcatahoulas]

She meant no practicing in the pen that the event is to be held in

[TinyTexasCowgirl]

Ah ok. That makes sense, well, kind of.