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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2011, 08:20:50 am »

so why not zero tolerance for any dog on dog agression?
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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2011, 08:25:34 am »

X2 Ed Barnes... well said, and Mr. Rueben i was not directing towards you personally, i was typing in while you were at the same time, i can see your point about the equipment failure, but also agree with Mr. Barnes statement. I know i'm biased in this situation since meeting Rowdy and his grandson personally when trading pups and know how the boy interacts with dog. Just don't believe in taking chances with a helpless child, dogs are cheap that one can be much more easily replaced than the child, breaking chains or whatever.
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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2011, 08:25:53 am »

so why not zero tolerance for any dog on dog agression?
for me its because of the potential of bull dogs. ive got a houla that can show dog agression sometimes, but its a lot of bark an raised hair  an not much bite
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« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2011, 08:30:48 am »

I can't beleive what i'm reading/hearing on here about standing up for animal/dog rights vs. human/child rights...that sounds like alot of liberal PETA  b.s. crap.  I really like how others are so willing to risk someone else's offspring grandchild for the sake of a dog, really folks think before you speak.

That is just an assinine statement....when did he say the dog had trouble with a kid? any dog that will bite a kid must go period and that I agree with, I think because the cat possibly came from yuou that you are biased on the side of the cat , Huh? maybe huh? hell I have cur dogs that will tangle if they get loose and run the yard and will start a fight with chained bull dogs,.  alot of these cur dogs are teritorial hell you are proud to tell how yours defend this or that so again the cat may very well have started the trouble and if the chain were not to have broke there would never had been a problem. Besides that kids dont belong in a dog yard or yard full of chained dogs un supervised to begin with imo
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« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2011, 08:32:36 am »

i have seen my dogs stretch a hog as a pack a pair or by there sleves, im not gonna sugar coat it or dilute when i say any dog poses a threat to man if not well socialized. i know all my dogs are at there most intense moments when on a hog. when that bull dog is caught on a hog do u think his mind is worken any different, opposed to if it where another dog? all he knows is hold untill the ride is over!!!
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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2011, 08:33:24 am »

I can't beleive what i'm reading/hearing on here about standing up for animal/dog rights vs. human/child rights...that sounds like alot of liberal PETA  b.s. crap.  I really like how others are so willing to risk someone else's offspring grandchild for the sake of a dog, really folks think before you speak.

That is just an assinine statement....when did he say the dog had trouble with a kid? any dog that will bite a kid must go period and that I agree with, I think because the cat possibly came from yuou that you are biased on the side of the cat , Huh? maybe huh? hell I have cur dogs that will tangle if they get loose and run the yard and will start a fight with chained bull dogs,.  alot of these cur dogs are teritorial hell you are proud to tell how yours defend this or that so again the cat may very well have started the trouble and if the chain were not to have broke there would never had been a problem. Besides that kids dont belong in a dog yard or yard full of chained dogs un supervised to begin with imo

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« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2011, 08:34:28 am »

Hell, i have cur dogs that would fight with each other if they got off their chain in the yard. My AB has some kind of beef with my old BMC and they tie up any chance they get at the house. but you can load them in the truck together and go hunting and not a growl.

This does not sound like it has a thing to do with human aggression. I wouldnt judge how the dog will react to a 3 yr old by this incident for sure. But then i wouldnt let my 3 yr old run around my dogs unattended either. I have investigated 250+ dog bites a year for the last 11 yrs and pits aint the problem. people are the problem. they dont recognize the signs of human aggression before it escalates to a bite situation. Im no bunny hugger, I dont think a dog should ever bite a person (not including dogs trained to do so like police dogs) but people need to recognize the signs early on and nip it in the bud.

I personally wouldnt cull a dog for fighting on the yard. fighting in the woods.....culled a few for that!!
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« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2011, 08:36:12 am »

for one most pits once they get in a good fight then the light has turned on and most times its impossible to turn the light off thats what they were bred for. too many good dogs around to give it a second chance in my opinion the next time it could be alot worse or could be with a kid i have 3 under 12 years old and i will not take a chance.
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« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2011, 08:40:06 am »

I admitted i'm biased, but i would rather be biased for a child than a dog with aggression
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« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2011, 08:45:03 am »

how many of yall grew with a dog ur whole life? dog fights are gonna happen, my best running buddy was and still is a APBT. grown up i seen many a dog scuffles, pulled them part chase a stray off and went right back to playen with my pit! dad come ask me what happen to spike told him the deal, and all was good! i promise u if my dad ever had of thought that dog was a threat to me, he would`nt have made it for 14 years. i understand the take no chances alot of yall have, i really do. i just think yall shold looke at a wider picture.
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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2011, 08:55:35 am »

I admitted i'm biased, but i would rather be biased for a child than a dog with aggression

So what if your pup started it??? Maybe he should be culled if so then huh Huh? He may bite that kid.....
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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2011, 09:14:06 am »

i hear what you are saying big chris i had a female pit that you could trust around any kid any age but i knew that dog and she never showed any aggresion toward anything but a pig. all iam saying is that in my opinion there are to many good dogs to have to deal with a pit that shows aggresion towards another dog and as far as another kind of dog i will not tolerate that either just the way i was raised but it is easier to convence a cur dog that you will not tolerate that than a pitbull in my opinion. i hate breaking up a dog fight the last one i broke up i got bit on the hand and it hurt like hell so i would just rather try to avoid that situation again. pits around here are a dime a dozen and there are some good ones 
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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2011, 11:16:14 am »

What I don't understand is why everytime some tries to vent about something that upset them someone has to turn it into a damn fight! Are we all just 5 graders or what its the mans dog he can do with it as he pleases and its not for us to say what's right or wrong cause its not our property! So do what u have to and I'm sorry to hear about this situation!
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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2011, 11:25:58 am »

i dont see a fight, i see a discussion
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« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2011, 11:26:42 am »

 I was wondering if you have any females on your yard? Our dogs get along great....unless a female on the yard is in heat, or coming into heat. When this happens, I don't consider it dog aggression. I consider it mother nature because after she isn't in heat any more, all the males go back to being friendly with one another.
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« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2011, 11:27:00 am »

i dont see a fight, i see a discussion

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« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2011, 11:36:53 am »

i dont see a fight, i see a discussion

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« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2011, 11:40:58 am »

I have a nine year old that has been around APBTs her entire life with absolutely no problems. I have owned over 100 APBTs and have not had any problems with human aggression. Out of all of them I have only culled one for human aggression, but it wasn't mine.
Mav, I have broke up many dogfights and have yet to be bit by an APBT while breaking one up. Pits may be a dime a dozen around there, but I would be willing to bet they aren't exactly good APBTs. They are probably all gator mouf, colby, or American. You may also be able to find some of those good tigetstripe pits also. Evil
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« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2011, 01:14:29 pm »

I have a nine year old that has been around APBTs her entire life with absolutely no problems. I have owned over 100 APBTs and have not had any problems with human aggression. Out of all of them I have only culled one for human aggression, but it wasn't mine.
Mav, I have broke up many dogfights and have yet to be bit by an APBT while breaking one up. Pits may be a dime a dozen around there, but I would be willing to bet they aren't exactly good APBTs. They are probably all gator mouf, colby, or American. You may also be able to find some of those good tigetstripe pits also. Evil

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« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2011, 01:52:49 pm »

I know what ur saying chris  our house dog is a pit and ive seen her sleeping on the couch with our kids and another pit. She for whatever reason jumped up and slammed that otger dog between the cushions and locked down but never even touched one of the kids wiyh a paw or anything. Once we broke it up and threw the other dog out she jumped back on yhe couch smelled the kids and laid rite back down with em like nothing ever happened.  Have seen her kill alot of dogs and be just as friendly as a puppy to us not ten seconds after it happened.  But if two of my dogs fite then one has to go most times and so far i think ive done good as to which ones ive culled ciz i havent had repeat problems yet. Ive culled curs and pits   the reason i would get rid of the pit is becuz he either started it or he didnt leave the dog he fought withs area when that one got aggressive.
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