just need to vent

[MAV]

tmatt i have no idea what they are THEY ARE FREE tiger stripped black white brown dont care what color and if they work then they are as good as your whatever you got. as a matter of fact picked one up today and taking to tuskhog instead of it being put down she gets another chance. what do you exactly call a good apbt. to me dont care what blood line it is as long they work. and the dog that bit me was not a pit it was a cur dog thats why i said i dont tolerate any dog with dog aggresion. like i sayed its my opinion and thats how i feel zero tolerance for me. those people you see that had a child face ripped off by a pitbull usually say we have always had pits they are part of our family and then what???    

[UNDERDOG]

So many on this thread keep on with the kid thing but the man who started the thread has yet to answer :

(1) does he know what of the two dogs started the altercation?.
(2) has either of the two dogs ever shown aggresion twoard kids?
(3) were there gyps in heat/coming into heat ?
(4) Has either of the two dogs ever shown any dog agression before ?

I don't think the thread is about kids and bulldogs really,I don't ever want anyones kid to get bitten by any dog.

Let wait and see what he says before we get too far off into too much....

[MAV]

i was just explaining why i have zero tolerance for a pitbull or any dog. thats just the way i feel everyone has a different opinion and thats all good if everyone thought the same then it would be a boring world. 

[MOhogger]

nobody was home so he does not know what dog started the fight.And yes there are females on his yard but they are seperated a good distance from each other.I dont know if any are in heat or not.The pit in question is not a huntin dog its a family pet.

Ok it was equipment failure that caused the problem,but what would yall do if your neighbors dog broke his chain and came to your house and tore up one of your good dogs? There would be no question then about who started it.And you probably would not give the dog a second chance.

[UNDERDOG]

Ok it was equipment failure that caused the problem,but what would yall do if your neighbors dog broke his chain and came to your house and tore up one of your good dogs? There would be no question then about who started it.And you probably would not give the dog a second chance.

The neigbors dog is a black and white/cut and dried issue/asnwer....not the same deal.....

[tmatt]

Mohogger, funny you should mention the neighbor thing, I just had it happen yesterday. The only thing is that I didn't have to worry about culling, my dog did the culling for me. The neighbor's dog got off of his chain and got on my Jeep/Redboy/Carver dog. My dog's head is swollen pretty good, but he still licked my daughter when she went over to him. My neighbor told me he understood and was not upset because his dog got out of his collar (not the first time) and came to my house.

[tmatt]

A few more pics to lighten the mood.

[MOhogger]

Ok it was equipment failure that caused the problem,but what would yall do if your neighbors dog broke his chain and came to your house and tore up one of your good dogs? There would be no question then about who started it.And you probably would not give the dog a second chance.

The neigbors dog is a black and white/cut and dried issue/asnwer....not the same deal.....

Yes and no. A dog dont know where your property lines are.If a dog is on a chain ,the area his chain reaches is his territory.When he gets loose he will often try to socialize with all other dogs he sees or hears.It dont matter what dog started the fight ,the dog off of his chain shouldnt have been there,but they are animals and they do what their instincts lead them to do.A dogs territory ends where they loose a fight.

[Amokabs]

Gotta love them old Carver lines

[UNDERDOG]

Ok it was equipment failure that caused the problem,but what would yall do if your neighbors dog broke his chain and came to your house and tore up one of your good dogs? There would be no question then about who started it.And you probably would not give the dog a second chance.

The neigbors dog is a black and white/cut and dried issue/asnwer....not the same deal.....

Yes and no. A dog dont know where your property lines are.If a dog is on a chain ,the area his chain reaches is his territory.When he gets loose he will often try to socialize with all other dogs he sees or hears.It dont matter what dog started the fight ,the dog off of his chain shouldnt have been there,but they are animals and they do what their instincts lead them to do.A dogs territory ends where they loose a fight.

What the heck does that have to do with his dog getting loose? ?

[MOhogger]

Ok it was equipment failure that caused the problem,but what would yall do if your neighbors dog broke his chain and came to your house and tore up one of your good dogs? There would be no question then about who started it.And you probably would not give the dog a second chance.

The neigbors dog is a black and white/cut and dried issue/asnwer....not the same deal.....

Yes and no. A dog dont know where your property lines are.If a dog is on a chain ,the area his chain reaches is his territory.When he gets loose he will often try to socialize with all other dogs he sees or hears.It dont matter what dog started the fight ,the dog off of his chain shouldnt have been there,but they are animals and they do what their instincts lead them to do.A dogs territory ends where they loose a fight.

What the heck does that have to do with his dog getting loose? ?

His dog getting loose is the start of the problem,which is a result of equipment failure.

[jesusjunky1963]

X2 even if the cat wasn't the pup i mentioned before, 'cause i know how your grandson took to that pup, and how that pup would fight to protect your grandson.

it was a 2 year old cat that came from mo.

[jesusjunky1963]

1st neither dog has ever shown any type of aggression toward each other or people.
2nd the pit broke his chain that was only two weeks old.
3rd  I do have females on my yard but neigther one is in heat or coming in.
4th it happen after I left for work at 400 am
5th if i thought for one minute that that any dog on my yard would harm my grandson they would be dead.

 I have the pit in a locked kennel and the cat is healing , when all the wounds are closed i will see who the agressor is because i to have seen these cat males jump for no reason but at the time didnt think about it.

I just want to vent to keep from being to harsh on the dog and didnt intend to start a war.
thinks for all the advice.

[UNDERDOG]

Cool, I think your doing the right thing thinking it out with a level head.

[tmatt]

Cool, I think your doing the right thing thinking it out with a level head.

X2

[BIG CHRIS]

Cool, I think your doing the right thing thinking it out with a level head.

X2

x3

[treeingratterrier]

Not the dogs fault, he got loose he said she said he barked she farted next door beuase she is in heat, one question is why is this dog not nutered???  I have rat terriers, dead game ones, i know what can happen if one gets out of a kennel and makes the rounds, one wrong move and the pecking order fight breaks out sometimes just over a dog walking by another, if you have a pit bull with nuts and full of testrone he needs cutting and watch him close as well as the dog he chewed up, might be safer to just cut them both and see what hapens, best lock for a kdog kennel is made by a cow vet in my town Beeville, i never seen one fail in 40 years they been around, they are called hoploks or hopalok or something, anyways they a 3/4 inch or 1 inch round stock with a made in Beeville Texas spring loaded with a aluium knob and assembled here as well, the auction barns up nd down US 59 use them and many ranchers i used to build pens for, they are excellent for the dog box doors as well, sorry about the dog fight, thanks to God nobody called the law or worse went over and tried to break it up not knowing any better and got killed, pit bulls with nuts on a chain are nitro no matter who bred them especially if they are around another female in heat and a dog yard full of male curs, cut them if you are not breeding them  and build better fences and kennels doors etc etc, good luck

[Box R Outfitters]

i have waited  awhile to reply to this post!  the bottom line is if the dog is aressive to other dogs he needs to be gone asap ! if he gets n a fight with any dog and your grand son is there he could be hurt badly or be killed ! dont take the chance if he is agressive with other dogs get rid of him ! i have been hunting and guiding for 45 yrs and i keep my bulldogs n a locked kennel just to protect them from fights that they may or may not start ! all my pits ride with my other dogs n the box and on the ground,and any dog pit hound or cur who is agressive to another dog or person is gone imediately  PERIOD  there are to many dogs out there to take a chance of them fighting! i know a lady who try to break her 2 pits up and they ate both her arms off up to the elbow!! it was to late for her to get rid of them, pits are bad ass catch dogs but when they get n a fight they are fighting to win !! its none of my business either way you have to make the decision! i once had a pit who was the best pit i ever owned  one day i hit the top of the kennel roof (tin) with a stick to try make them stop barking she started growling at me  that was the last growl she ever made !!! just be careful and remember cats are pretty growly too!!! good luck and i know you will make the right decision !! good luck hunting and keep that grandson hunting too rusty reed boxroutfitters boxroutfitters@hotmail.com

[dub]

I have not seen any of the dogs. I do not know the dogs. So I would say let the man with the first hand knowledge make the best decision he can. I have nothing to add but I am sorry for the whole situation and I hope things get better.