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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2011, 12:01:01 pm »

Yall know what I dont understand?

I just cant figure it out myself but I know there is people that love long long long distance dogs tons of stick tons of hunt and hell I do to.

But why not try to breed some get in that ass type of dogs into that so you can shorten the races ?  I just cant understand that myself I dont mean breed so hard into it you got catch dogs running loose I mean breed like halfbreed talking about some dogs that will put some real balls into them so they will atleast grab the back end grab some hair bay tight get the hog stopped maybe not all the time but most the time so a person can quit all these long long drawn out races .  I like catching hogs man. I like chasing them to but dang man why chase them three ten peices of proptery when they could are might could have been stopped at 500 yds ?

I know there is different strokes for different folks but man it just dont seem right to me.  Dont get me wrong I like a good hard core brawl and a good hard core chase man but I want to be home watching some NFL and kicked back not chasing hogs that could have been stopped all nite long.  I call these dogs two day dogs because you got to have two days off to hunt them . One day to hunt and chase and yeah getting hogs but damn man you have to have another day off to go hunt for your dog.


Just dont understand it .  No ruffling feathers but tell.
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2011, 12:21:35 pm »

that is what i am trying to avoid i really want my dogs to make it stand where it is jumped like i used to . but with all these baydogs and quitters running these boars they have adapted to sprinting off . hogs is smart as dogs and it don't take but once and they got it figured out . i've heard of guys dumping 10 dogs out and still can't make a hog stand and fight something ain't rite . and me personally if i have to crawl and fight my way in to god knows what and find any two of my dogs bayed up on a 80# sow i'm kikkin some butt all the way back to the truck . grit, speed ,nose and endurance is my goal in my dogs . i had dang good dogs before the hogs changed tacktics and now i am forced to breed a differant style of dog to hunt todays hogs . ADAPT OR GET OUT !!!
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2011, 12:36:15 pm »

i`ve said my 2 cents on what i like and where im trien to go. anybody who has read anything i have posted knows what i want.
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2011, 12:38:45 pm »

If the dog can't grab the ass end how are they gonna stop it???

These are the runners I'm talking about... bark, bark and the race is on! Then they're running through 1,000's of acres of crap an armadillo can barely crawl through. The hog is so far ahead of the dogs the entire race that it ain't stopping until it get's good and ready to.

It ain't a matter of rough, loose, gritty, etc, etc, etc... bottom is what gets it done on these type hogs. Trust me, we've thrown everything in the book at them from loose as can be, to death wish crazy. It's the same results... if they can't stick with it, they ain't gonna bay it.

Hell, we ran one last night for nearly 7 miles... and he smoked our ass! It was on the same place that Bryant and the Skinners hunted with me earlier this year... ask Bryant about the terrain out there. Grin

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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2011, 01:41:05 pm »

Yall know what I dont understand?

I just cant figure it out myself but I know there is people that love long long long distance dogs tons of stick tons of hunt and hell I do to.

But why not try to breed some get in that ass type of dogs into that so you can shorten the races ?  I just cant understand that myself I dont mean breed so hard into it you got catch dogs running loose I mean breed like halfbreed talking about some dogs that will put some real balls into them so they will atleast grab the back end grab some hair bay tight get the hog stopped maybe not all the time but most the time so a person can quit all these long long drawn out races .  I like catching hogs man. I like chasing them to but dang man why chase them three ten peices of proptery when they could are might could have been stopped at 500 yds ?

I know there is different strokes for different folks but man it just dont seem right to me.  Dont get me wrong I like a good hard core brawl and a good hard core chase man but I want to be home watching some NFL and kicked back not chasing hogs that could have been stopped all nite long.  I call these dogs two day dogs because you got to have two days off to hunt them . One day to hunt and chase and yeah getting hogs but damn man you have to have another day off to go hunt for your dog.


Just dont understand it .  No ruffling feathers but tell.

No I understand completly.  Same way i see it.  MOst of it is the younger generation coming up running these guys once and dogs quiting them it was it boils down too.  I know 4years ago or better you could take pups out and bay up solid and not a runner anywhere around my area!  NOW 1 bark and there rolling.  That's what sucks for me.  I hate walking farther than i have to as well but if the hog wants to go i will for sure follow!   Wink
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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2011, 01:42:26 pm »

Were about yall hunt at Mike I can understand that if the bush is that bad.  If you cant get a holt of them you cant grab'em is the whole place like that .
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2011, 02:00:08 pm »

Were about yall hunt at Mike I can understand that if the bush is that bad.  If you cant get a holt of them you cant grab'em is the whole place like that .

I hunt all over, but the worst runners I'm referring to are in the piney woods region of SE Texas... and yes, most of the places are like that.
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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2011, 02:36:30 pm »

Shoot I second that, just last night I saw a clearing on one side of the levee, it looked like nothing but tall grass, I went down to it and tried to walk, jump and fall into the bay but the vines literally held my 250 pound butt! That's what made me decide to swim around that crap. I even witnessed one of the most athletic thin yellow dogs around get tangled in it and start screaming bloody murder. laugh
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« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2011, 02:46:20 pm »

Were about yall hunt at Mike I can understand that if the bush is that bad.  If you cant get a holt of them you cant grab'em is the whole place like that .

I hunt all over, but the worst runners I'm referring to are in the piney woods region of SE Texas... and yes, most of the places are like that.

We can hardly ever see the hog until we are 5 to 10 yards from it.  I don't like catchy dogs because a bad hog will just wait till he finds a heavy briar thicket where the dog can't move to get away, and run him down and whittle on him.  These hogs around here started running bad about 10 years ago.  I miss the good ol days when you could bay up 10 hogs at a time. LOL
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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2011, 03:51:58 pm »

I do not like a dog that quits the track. My goal is to have dogs that stop the hog asap but not give up easily even if the hog gets in the middle of a thick and large briar patch...and if the hog is a runner in the thick stuff I want the dogs to trail him as long as needed to bring it to a bay. These type of dogs will worry us due to where the track leads them but I would rather worry about where the dogs are headed than to know that the dogs will give up after a mile... In my book those dogs are culls...How many times will these dogs start a track just to give up, and then start over on a new track???

If I were to run those type of dogs they would have to be rough enough to stop a hog no matter what...
u hit the nail right on the head 100% in my opinion, y go hunting and just make hogs that already run bad just want to keep on running further and further to get away if he knows that ur dog is going to quite him after a mile or so every time, i want that sucker out of the woods no matter where he ends up and i know that it does not happen all the time. Rough or not a running hog in really thick brush can and will most of the time out run a dog and stop when he wants to.
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« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2011, 03:55:44 pm »

This thread has me thinking I need to get back to work on my line of superdogs...

http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=8903.0
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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2011, 04:12:27 pm »

HAHA, I missed that one Chris  Grin

"Superdogs", yes I'll take one over a solid dog... but I'm happy enough with a solid dog in the meantime... they're hard enough to make themself  Wink Grin
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« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2011, 07:00:04 am »

I like true hog dogs, that have an awesome day every once in a while, and what I mean about that is keep you out all day and night baying hogs and going the extra distance when the other dogs are give out.  If I had dogs that did that everyday I would get out because it is enough work as it is!:)

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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2011, 09:03:59 am »

If the dog can't grab the ass end how are they gonna stop it???

These are the runners I'm talking about... bark, bark and the race is on! Then they're running through 1,000's of acres of crap an armadillo can barely crawl through. The hog is so far ahead of the dogs the entire race that it ain't stopping until it get's good and ready to.

It ain't a matter of rough, loose, gritty, etc, etc, etc... bottom is what gets it done on these type hogs. Trust me, we've thrown everything in the book at them from loose as can be, to death wish crazy. It's the same results... if they can't stick with it, they ain't gonna bay it.

Hell, we ran one last night for nearly 7 miles... and he smoked our ass! It was on the same place that Bryant and the Skinners hunted with me earlier this year... ask Bryant about the terrain out there. Grin

 Mike i kinda feel left out Grin i ran my hillcountry boar hound in them stick of woods and caught a  wild boar hawg at the end of the the day with my solid super hog catchin machine Grin

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« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2011, 09:43:59 am »

Mike i kinda feel left out Grin i ran my hillcountry boar hound in them stick of woods and caught a  wild boar hawg at the end of the the day with my solid super hog catchin machine Grin

Yeah... but it took 5 hours! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Had to run the air out of him! Grin
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« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2011, 10:04:37 am »

Mike i kinda feel left out Grin i ran my hillcountry boar hound in them stick of woods and caught a  wild boar hawg at the end of the the day with my solid super hog catchin machine Grin

Yeah... but it took 5 hours! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Had to run the air out of him! Grin

sounds like he had the bottom you were speaking of Wink
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« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2011, 10:49:43 am »

Mike i kinda feel left out Grin i ran my hillcountry boar hound in them stick of woods and caught a  wild boar hawg at the end of the the day with my solid super hog catchin machine Grin

Yeah... but it took 5 hours! Shocked Shocked Shocked

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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2011, 10:56:13 am »

sounds like he had the bottom you were speaking of Wink

Jet had that kind of bottom, plus a whole lot more. I drove many a mile and tripped over a bunch of rocks with Jesse following that dog... he definately belongs in the super star catagory.

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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2011, 12:10:44 pm »

Jesse just don't look right in a picture with no rocks in the background...
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