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« on: October 18, 2011, 10:40:25 pm » |
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I was wondering if there is any way to make a dog stop catching and allow it to still be gritty I will appreciate all feed back
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2011, 10:46:12 pm » |
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shock training worked for me but let a ol timer tell you
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charles
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2011, 10:47:34 pm » |
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high votlage to the neck as soon as he/she latches hold of the pig when not the proper time. make sure to yell NO or STOP or what ever command you wish to use. i was workn on 1 of my dogs that was doin it and he started to learn, but now i aint there so i gotta start his training over again. lets hear from the rest of the hunters
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2011, 07:03:39 am » |
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Im not sure how to stop it but im having the same problem!! I was thinking kinda let em learn... I was gonna put em in with a rank big boar hog( cutters gone of course) and let em try and cath that. I hope he will get the point and not try to catch everything in the woods
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2011, 08:24:59 am » |
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don't know if it can be done...they ususally get back to rough if that is their nature...not saying it can't be done...but it will be a challenge.  |
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2011, 08:58:28 am » |
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Im not sure how to stop it but im having the same problem!! I was thinking kinda let em learn... I was gonna put em in with a rank big boar hog( cutters gone of course) and let em try and cath that. I hope he will get the point and not try to catch everything in the woods
X1000! worked my wink dog in a pen, that an old gentlemen owns. wink was a striking fool but was all catch if at all possible. i watched that dog take a beating from a big boar with a muzzle on. run him 5 mins with it on, waited till he wanted to sit back and bay and try to get rough when a hog woould drift or turn and then he would try to get a bite, which was fine with me. when the old man felt like he had took a good enough whoopen and we both felt like he was ready to bay, we pulled the muzzle sent him in and he would bay pretty as a picture. the old man watched for when wink was about to get ruff and try to get him a bite and would simply say aight the dog would back up. he would use that word when ever he felt the dog was about to try and catch when he had the muzzle on. the dog could`nt get the bite and learned through aight ment pain from the hog and the only way to avoid it was to bay his arse off!!! when i felt like wink was getting to rough again or to catchy back to the pen and start tutorials all over again. |
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2011, 10:01:17 am » |
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Lead poison is the ony 100% cure. Aint nothn garuteed but death, so if thats not an option then repeated trainin with appropriate stimulations of high levels
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2011, 10:29:17 am » |
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Lead poison is the ony 100% cure. Aint nothn garuteed but death, so if thats not an option then repeated trainin with appropriate stimulations of high levels
i aint sayen ur method of TRAINGING is wrong but have u ever felt that u have burned up, what might have been a good dog if not for the shock therapy? shocking a dog off a caught hog, in my OP is kinda like shocking one off a cow! before long that dog is gonna be like F@#$ that hog. he may hit the woods and be gone but io dnt think he`ll be looken for a hog. don't know if it can be done...they ususally get back to rough if that is their nature...not saying it can't be done...but it will be a challenge. I may be wrong but it sounds like rough/gritty is fine with him he just does`nt want him catchen out. i`ve come to the point if a dog wants to try and handle up on a hog im gonna let em do just thats long as that dog is producen more pork then it is loosen im good to go. kinda like a dog that is looser then u like but the dog gets it`s job done. |
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2011, 12:16:36 pm » |
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Hey chris both methods are gona work. Like u n reuben said it may take multiple seccions at various times to keep the dog in ck. Its hard to know what a dog is think, or any animal for that matter, but if they hav learnin method similar to ours, repeatd training, be it verbal, physical or external stimulation will teach the dog its limitations. The problem i was havn with mine, he wouldnt bay anymore, he would straight catch n test the hog. Most of time he caused the bay to break, which nearly costed him his life if i wouldv had a clear shot. I started shockn him as soon as he went in for catch n it broke to where he wouldnt even bay, but he basic started over from scratch, learnin to bay again n what his limits were when it came to catchn n then my collar broke n he revertd back to catch no matter how much yellin or disapline i gave him. I was gonna try ur method n letn him get the piss whiped out him a couple time but ran out of time. I tried the muzzle thng n all he would do is go in a corner or the pen away from the hog and tear the muzzle off n then go in n catch. If my wife n i wasnt attached to him, he wouldv done contracted lead poisoning
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2011, 12:34:02 pm » |
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I don't understand why folks wanna stop a rough dog from doing what he has in him whether they catch,or bay. Run a breastplate and catch hogs. From him getting shocked when he catches , he will probably start trashing on somethin he can catch. Just my opinion.
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2011, 01:40:28 pm » |
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I was wondering if there is any way to make a dog stop catching and allow it to still be gritty I will appreciate all feed back
how old is the dog? most dogs will tame with age. the worst thing you could do is shock him. if you think about it when you shock him, aint that just like trash brakin the dog off hogs? |
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2011, 04:07:34 pm » |
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If the will sit back n bay n dont get shocked then he knows he is good. As soon as the dog catches, he gets zapped he knows he did wrong. My dog is 3 now n for almost 2yrs he wantd to do nothn but catch. Shockn him didnt trash brake him from hogs, just catchn. Now he is back to his old tricks again, so im gona throw him in a pen with a mean boar n c who come out on top. I dont know how a dogs mind works, n will never say i do, but if its like a human's, then he should learn what causes jim not to get zapped. Just bc i get a ticket for speedin doesnt mean im trash broke from driving, i just know i should speed n i wont get any of them fast drivin awards.
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2011, 05:30:57 pm » |
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I've been running a 10 mth old pup and this lil sucker will eat the hind end off a hog, literally eat the hind ham clean off. Last night 1 of the pigs we caught had a large chuck of leg missing and the pup was pulling meat off and eating. Doesn't bother me as long as he stays away from those cutters and makes a hog sit down.
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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2011, 07:56:58 pm » |
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I've been running a 10 mth old pup and this lil sucker will eat the hind end off a hog, literally eat the hind ham clean off. Last night 1 of the pigs we caught had a large chuck of leg missing and the pup was pulling meat off and eating. Doesn't bother me as long as he stays away from those cutters and makes a hog sit down.
thats what i call a hog stopper!!!! them big boars cant run without them hamstrings. |
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2011, 08:49:45 am » |
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I can't imagine shocking one of my dogs on a hog.....I like the muzzle thing myself. I think the key is to let him take a beating, take him back the next day when the soreness sets in.....and then the next day when he's real sore......And again.....and again........he will back up.
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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2011, 09:00:24 am » |
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I can't imagine shocking one of my dogs on a hog.....I like the muzzle thing myself. I think the key is to let him take a beating, take him back the next day when the soreness sets in.....and then the next day when he's real sore......And again.....and again........he will back up.
it worked for awhile! wink met his match. but he went out his way and on a big nasty one. |
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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2011, 03:39:28 pm » |
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I would never shock a dog off of a hog period. You shock them on deer to stop them from running deer, why would you burn them on a hog?
Every dog I seen that's been shocked on a hog, I would never feed.
Give the dog experience, it will either learn to bay or get really good at catching and handling hogs. If the dog doesn't fit your pack because of this. Get rid of the dog to someone who can use it, and get something that fits into your pack better.
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2011, 04:48:09 pm » |
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I was wondering if there is any way to make a dog stop catching and allow it to still be gritty I will appreciate all feed back
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2011, 04:53:04 pm » |
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a rough dogs going to be rough and a loose dog is going to be loose the only way to have a not so rough dog is get another one dont mess up a good dog with a shock collar
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2011, 07:49:05 pm » |
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a rough dogs going to be rough and a loose dog is going to be loose the only way to have a not so rough dog is get another one dont mess up a good dog with a shock collar
the gritty dog might be controlled for a while but it will get back to what is in his nature to be...some of these dogs will be killed by a boar and some will learn how to work a hog... |
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