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« on: October 19, 2011, 06:12:19 pm »

Raising a litter of pups is a pain in the a$$... as much as I enjoy it, it is EXPENSIVE... and an eternal headache, with inevitable heartache to boot...

Being a tad obsessive compulsive as I am....  Grin  The vision of a breeding keeps popping into my head over and over and over.... well, you get the point...  Cheesy

...Shine's full sister Chub has been hunting for a friend of mine for a while now, as I gave her to him to make time for my young dogs out of Shiner...  Well, the bitch has turned into a hell of a dog... MUCH rougher than Shiner, but man she sure produces hogs... She's a baydog mind you(if he a good one), but she will flat shut one down by herself... not to mention the hustle... my God, the dog has hustle now....

.. Chub was the black sheep when I first started Shiner and her at the same time... Shiner had more bay to her than Chub... Chub had more catch than Shine, so I hunted Shine more for lack of stress  Grin...    Chub got put on the back burner for a long time, because I was always nervous about running her with any of my other dogs because it usually ended up with a caught hog and banged up dogs...

.... Wanting to put my time into Shine, I gave her to my hunting partner Lee... and he hunted her for a while but for his own reason's got out of dogs and I got her back... probably around 2 by now, I started pairing her with my Snapper dog(3/4 sister) and Chub started to catch gear...  those two piled up alot of hogs over the next year or two...  Grin   

... Just last yr, Chub started doing it on her own consistently and has not looked back... "late starter"?  I don't know as much as she really never got the chance to shine... What I do know now is I appreciate the type of rough she is now...  "right on that razor edge"....

Goin' on a road trip this wknd and need to make a good showing... makes a person look at what dogs he wants to take  Wink....  Shine is still a bit banged up from last wknd, hopin' she can make it but it will be decided right before the game I'm afraid Grin.... SO... I'm goin' to pick the Chub up tomorrow after work for one more go....  Wink

.... Back to the breeding....

... Just got word from the 3rd of the 3 remaining males out of my Shiner litter, that he is doing REAL good... and coming from this person, that means a LOT...

... My Whaler is more like Chub than Shiner... Sawfish is more like Shiner than Chub... the male down south... time will tell, as it's still hard to get much detail from that person  Grin  ... What is fact is, all 3 are making sho e nuff hog dogs...

.... and here is where I finally get to my point  Grin....

Thinking of breeding one of these males to my Chub dog to try and "intensify" the gene pool so to speak... time will tell which of the three, but it is on my mind constantly  Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2011, 06:41:48 pm »

The Chub


2 out of 3 of the boys....


Hoping to amplify this...
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2011, 06:44:26 pm »

You just want everyone to say go for It so you can feel better about doing it? Cause it sounds like you have already decided Cheesy    sounds exciting, go for it. Was shiner bred to an unrelated male? Just wondring how tight that is?
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2011, 06:45:18 pm »

I vote Whaler. Good luck.  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2011, 06:48:03 pm »

Man I got 3 now... Man good luck you poor man!  Grin but I have to say I love watching pups work! Afro
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2011, 06:56:44 pm »

HAHA, yes I have already decided... timing of it, I have not....  Grin   One can only hunt so many dogs... and I don't want to sell dogs... and I damn sure don't want to give any of this litter away to anyone anywhere remotely near me... If there is one thing I have learned in this sport.... is that DOGS keep hunting properties and get you invited to places that money cannot buy...

... Unfortunate fact of things, as I truly would like to spread good genetics so others could have fun with them too... 

... at the same time, I see a cross that would improve what I have...  decisions, decisions....

(I'm leanin' towards Whaler too shankem  Grin .... although I've not seen Bull since I sent him south a year ago...)

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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2011, 07:14:24 pm »

I really like how that black dog looks!! Sounds like you have a good plan too!
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2011, 07:28:07 pm »

Thanks, but don't get me wrong.... I TRAINED those good looks into him... has NOTHIN' to do with genetics!!!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2011, 07:35:46 pm »

Thanks, but don't get me wrong.... I TRAINED those good looks into him... has NOTHIN' to do with genetics!!!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin
LOL!!!   Grin Grin
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2011, 08:19:02 pm »

Noah I think your full of it man I think you need to ship a couple of the pups to me and Tbob and we'll test their hunt and report back to the board Grin Wink
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2011, 08:21:08 pm »

sounds like a good plan...can't intensify or concentrate the gene pool without breeding the dogs with the best qualities, that is step 1. Step 2 is picking the pups with the right qualities...

x2 on the good hog dogs getting you the invites... Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2011, 08:22:43 pm »

 Grin  If I do ever send any out... the dog will come with a non-disclosure clause... and the recipient will have to pay for the lawyer to make the whole thing legal... Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2011, 08:24:06 pm »

Grin  If I do ever send any out... the dog will come with a non-disclosure clause... and the recipient will have to pay for the lawyer to make the whole thing legal... Cheesy
Can't say that I would blame ya....good lookin dogs
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2011, 08:24:58 pm »

they all look good and ole chub is muscled up pretty good.
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2011, 08:28:17 pm »

Good gosh noah you have some beautiful dogs I love their build.
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2011, 08:28:54 pm »

Thanks yall, wish I had a picture of Daisy, Shine and Chub's momma... she was built much stockier, more heavy muscled than both... She was as hard a stopping dog as there is...  Tremendous amount of go to her...  She made it to 8 or 9yrs old hunting groves solo(no catch dog) before her luck finally ran out...

A LOT of rough in these genetics...
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2011, 08:32:55 pm »

Then breed the best pup out of that cross back to Shiner. Wink

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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2011, 08:34:16 pm »

Then breed the best pup out of that cross back to Shiner. Wink



Now you talkin'....  Grin    Still waitin' on you to show me that it really works but I'm gettin' impatient!!!!!   Grin Grin
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2011, 08:35:31 pm »

i thought donnies dog was mamma to your shine dog ?
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2011, 08:39:18 pm »

give me some input if im wrong
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