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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2011, 04:28:38 pm » |
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hydro therapy is a good deal i don't know about the bleach tho never tried it we just use a saline solution . basically warm water and salt mix . that was pprescribed by my old vet . woked great for me . hydro and penecilan is all i ever used . and like the vet told me unless a seirious cut leave it alone if the dog can lick it and keep it clean .
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2011, 04:48:17 pm » |
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The bleach is some good stuff, my aunt used to make us put it on cut / scrapes when we were kids....it burns for just a min (no worse than saline) but it will take the soreness out on top of killing everything bacteria wise.
I used it on my husband when he got cut a few years back ... No infection and healed up perfect with no complications to all his doctors amazement. I also talked my accident prone brother in law into using it and thats all he uses now lol....it is some good stuff.
I think Veterycin (sp) is chlorine based....man if I had only ran with it!
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2011, 04:48:33 pm » |
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The bleach is some good stuff, my aunt used to make us put it on cut / scrapes when we were kids....it burns for just a min (no worse than saline) but it will take the soreness out on top of killing everything bacteria wise.
I used it on my husband when he got cut a few years back ... No infection and healed up perfect with no complications to all his doctors amazement. I also talked my accident prone brother in law into using it and thats all he uses now lol....it is some good stuff.
I think Veterycin (sp) is chlorine based....man if I had only ran with it!
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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2011, 05:40:32 pm » |
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I don't like posting pics of cut dogs or what not but 2 of the cuts were pretty serious. Here he is fixed up.   I will so the salt and warm water. I don't have bleach at the house lol Again thanks guys for all the advice. I'm learning as I go...  |
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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2011, 06:29:34 pm » |
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I very seldom use staples or stitches. I keep a bottle of amoxillen capsules handy and only use it if I see an infection. But I start out using cut heal in the spray bottle at 3 times a day and then drop off to twice a day. Tried different ways and this works the best for me.
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« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2011, 06:41:34 pm » |
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Cut n Heal is some good stuff! My dad swears by it on his scrapes and scratches  but we use it as well! There is tons of learning (you will never really stop) and opinions out there but with time you will form your own ways of doing things but this is a great place to ask questions! |
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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2011, 07:22:05 pm » |
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Don't try to re-staple or stitch a wound that has opened back up. Won't work without cutting back to fresh tissue and you'll have a hard time doing that without some lidocaine or Rompun.
Hydrotherapy works very well. On minor flesh wounds, 99% of the time keeping it clean and maybe a little Penn will have him back up in no time. If it's in an area where the dog can lick it, he/she will help keep it clean also. I've also kenneled a dog with a wound together with another dog. His friend will also aid in licking and keeping clean.
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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2011, 07:51:03 pm » |
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granulex spray is great to help with healing of cuts i always use iodine mixed with water 3 to 1 to clean cuts and 3cc pen. every day for the first 5 days and every other day for 5 more days and if is just a small cut or a puncture i i do the pen. and let the dog take care of it if they can reach it .This has always worked for me
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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2011, 08:18:10 pm » |
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ha ha that post you made bryant about putting dogs together made me chuckle a little. i remember when i had a couple of gyps in the pen together , well thet beat and chewed heck out of each other for some reason . then after i doctord em back up they was lickin and doctoring on each other better than i could . females is funny sometimes .
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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2011, 08:19:29 pm » |
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I would crate the dog, give it amoxallin & put neosporin.
no hydrogin perox nor iodine.
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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2011, 09:04:54 pm » |
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Well i already did re staple him. He had most of them missing the other day. I didn't use lidicane but he didn't buck a bit just sat there he is a tuff lil guy. But tonight I did the saline solution rinse through the cut and gave him antibiotics. So I hope he gets ass healed so he can get back in the game.  |
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« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2011, 08:19:23 am » |
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Use Cut Heal...You will be glad you did.
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« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2011, 12:10:01 am » |
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Just have to throw my .02 in here. I only use antibiotics if absolutely necessary. When I do, cephalexin is a good all around choice, but you really need to think about the seriousness of the wound and the depth of the wound or the tissue involved with the infection. Some antibiotics work an aerobic bacteria, some on anaerobic, some on gram positive and others on gram negative. Another thing on antibiotics is to make sure you run the full cycle and don't just quit giving them when the dog seems to feel better, that just builds resistance in the bacteria to the antibiotic that was used ( that is why penicillin is not very effective in humans) and don't always grab the strongest antibiotics (baytril, Cipro, etc) right from the start because if you do, when you have a severe infection and need the stronger antibiotics they will not b as effective. Keep this in mind if you choose to use antibiotics and the infection doesn't clear up and or gets worse. In either of those situations a vet visit is a necessity. As for the dex, it is a good tool when used right. It is a corticosteroid and suppresses a dogs immune system therefore it should only be used if there are no other options. This is just my opinion so take it how you want. I don't believe I would have a 7 month old PUPPY in the woods in a situation where he/she could get cut up in the first place. That is the quickest and easiest way to ruin one. You take a puppy that has the makings to be a good dog and get him cut bad and all of the sudden you just took all of the want to out of it and a lot of times they won't get over it. That is one of the things that I can't stand to see or hear about someone doing. Let the PUPPY grow up and mature, not just physically but mentally as well!!!
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« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2011, 01:08:40 am » |
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Just have to throw my .02 in here. I only use antibiotics if absolutely necessary. When I do, cephalexin is a good all around choice, but you really need to think about the seriousness of the wound and the depth of the wound or the tissue involved with the infection. Some antibiotics work an aerobic bacteria, some on anaerobic, some on gram positive and others on gram negative. Another thing on antibiotics is to make sure you run the full cycle and don't just quit giving them when the dog seems to feel better, that just builds resistance in the bacteria to the antibiotic that was used ( that is why penicillin is not very effective in humans) and don't always grab the strongest antibiotics (baytril, Cipro, etc) right from the start because if you do, when you have a severe infection and need the stronger antibiotics they will not b as effective. Keep this in mind if you choose to use antibiotics and the infection doesn't clear up and or gets worse. In either of those situations a vet visit is a necessity. As for the dex, it is a good tool when used right. It is a corticosteroid and suppresses a dogs immune system therefore it should only be used if there are no other options. This is just my opinion so take it how you want. I don't believe I would have a 7 month old PUPPY in the woods in a situation where he/she could get cut up in the first place. That is the quickest and easiest way to ruin one. You take a puppy that has the makings to be a good dog and get him cut bad and all of the sudden you just took all of the want to out of it and a lot of times they won't get over it. That is one of the things that I can't stand to see or hear about someone doing. Let the PUPPY grow up and mature, not just physically but mentally as well!!!
I agree a lot with whats been said here. But to Barney time things a bit or put things into what some call layman terms, medications used for any process is so simplistic it's complicated. You wouldnt put yourself on a morphine drip because you got stitches would you? Well granted some would take the meds just to take'em but better yet you wouldn't use a shot gun to kill a bee hive! The indications and contraindications of medications are only useful if the side effects don't over exuberate the fixing of the symptomatic therapy that they are being used for. Penicillian is good but what happens when the infection takes over and the pooch developes pneumonia? Given the dog is most likely already severly dehydrated but once you fill that dog up with IV fluids he's going to drowned... Literally! So take things slow, everyone is always so excited to get there pups back in the game but allow them to heal on natures time. Unless the dog had developed some serious trauma, there should be no use of steroids or any other meds thats you wouldn't be willing to use on yourself. Every medication I've ever used on a dog was and is intended for human usage. But what irkes me the most is when people use staples as a way to close an injury, especially not knowing how deep the wound actually penitrates. Staples are ONLY for superficial use knowing that the skin has not been damaged past the 3rd layer. I've had guys bring dogs to my house because they stapled wounds closed that were way deeper than they thought; infection had taken over and the infection had actually tracked the wound 2x deeper than what the wound originally was. Believe it or not, a wound is already infected at the time of injury. It takes time for specific symptoms to show. Use common sense gentleman, why close a infected wound? Some of the largest wounds on humans are always open, allowing the body to heal from the inside out. With clean irrigation, proper antibiotics and adequate healing time, you or your pups will be back on your feet before you know it. Healing is a process, it is time consuming but it's only right by you to give your dogs that time to re-coup. Good luck on your next hunt and if you have any questions feel free to ask. Robert aka 'Doc' Edwards Rusty Knife Kennel Kapolei, Oahu, Hawaii |
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