Prison Hounds

[t.wilbanks]

I'd think someone that thinks they are so smart to call a man out about his job would have check the WWW.
these  links should shut you up
 Dexter

Wil thank you for all you do
   Dexter

x2...   Glad to see some people that actually know what they are talking about post up!!!

Dexter, thanks for posting the links for the "Tecksus" know-it-alls!!!   

[Bump]

I'd think someone that thinks they are so smart to call a man out about his job would have check the WWW.
these  links should shut you up
 Dexter

Wil thank you for all you do
   Dexter

x3...   Glad to see some people that actually know what they are talking about post up!!!

Dexter, thanks for posting the links for the "Tecksus" know-it-alls!!!    

[BULLMASTER]

The first thing I noticed in one of the post was the TDC dogs assisted in the search,another words the dogs were there,doesnt mean they caught anyone!!!!The dogs also assisted on the escape I was part of but did nothing but bite the officers.Also the question was asked if an escapee had ever been caught not a burgular.Those inmates know how to shake those dogs because the dogboys as they are called will tell them how to shake them.I promise you I could lose them,a few circles,figure 8s and backtracking myself would do wonders.I was sitting in a guard tower once and it came over the radio that the dog boy was going to be running across the field laying a track,I watched the inmate run into the field then stopped and made a hard right turn and took off 1/4 mile into the trees.All of the sudden here comes the dogs and were right on the track until they hit the spot where the inmate turned right,the dogs then took a hard left barking like they were on track and were caught almost 4 miles away.If you would have been trusting those dogs you would have been losing valuble time while they were ghost trailing.After an hour the inmate finally come walking back across the field just shaking his head laughing.TDC was good to me and my family but lets get real about these dogs.As far as the few people the dogs have caught all I can say about that is that even some cull hog dogs find a pig every now and then.

[willhunt4food]

The first thing I noticed in one of the post was the TDC dogs assisted in the search,another words the dogs were there,doesnt mean they caught anyone!!!!The dogs also assisted on the escape I was part of but did nothing but bite the officers.Also the question was asked if an escapee had ever been caught not a burgular.Those inmates know how to shake those dogs because the dogboys as they are called will tell them how to shake them.I promise you I could lose them,a few circles,figure 8s and backtracking myself would do wonders.I was sitting in a guard tower once and it came over the radio that the dog boy was going to be running across the field laying a track,I watched the inmate run into the field then stopped and made a hard right turn and took off 1/4 mile into the trees.All of the sudden here comes the dogs and were right on the track until they hit the spot where the inmate turned right,the dogs then took a hard left barking like they were on track and were caught almost 4 miles away.If you would have been trusting those dogs you would have been losing valuble time while they were ghost trailing.After an hour the inmate finally come walking back across the field just shaking his head laughing.TDC was good to me and my family but lets get real about these dogs.As far as the few people the dogs have caught all I can say about that is that even some cull hog dogs find a pig every now and then.

And I guess you never had one of them days ..... shaking your head at your dogs ....come on man ....some of the best dogs have a off day now an then

[t.wilbanks]

The first thing I noticed in one of the post was the TDC dogs assisted in the search,another words the dogs were there,doesnt mean they caught anyone!!!!The dogs also assisted on the escape I was part of but did nothing but bite the officers.Also the question was asked if an escapee had ever been caught not a burgular.Those inmates know how to shake those dogs because the dogboys as they are called will tell them how to shake them.I promise you I could lose them,a few circles,figure 8s and backtracking myself would do wonders.I was sitting in a guard tower once and it came over the radio that the dog boy was going to be running across the field laying a track,I watched the inmate run into the field then stopped and made a hard right turn and took off 1/4 mile into the trees.All of the sudden here comes the dogs and were right on the track until they hit the spot where the inmate turned right,the dogs then took a hard left barking like they were on track and were caught almost 4 miles away.If you would have been trusting those dogs you would have been losing valuble time while they were ghost trailing.After an hour the inmate finally come walking back across the field just shaking his head laughing.TDC was good to me and my family but lets get real about these dogs.As far as the few people the dogs have caught all I can say about that is that even some cull hog dogs find a pig every now and then.

Do you know if those were seasoned dogs or young dogs in training??

[Circle C]

Big Chris,

     I just deleted the last five posts on this thread.   If you feel the need to preface a post with "This might get me kicked off of here", maybe that should be your warning not to post that thought.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, just try to find a respectful way to state it.

[BULLMASTER]

Wilhunt I have one of those days just about everytime I hit the woods at some point but the publics safety doesnt depend on my dogs.I was also working an escape at the Stiles Unit in Beaumont when 3 inmates busted out,the dogs were put on the track 10 minutes after they hit the fence and the dogs couldnt pick up the track,I think it was 2 weeks later the inmates were picked up within 4 miles of the unit wondering the streets.Luckily these guys werent violent offenders because they were just roaming the streets of Nederland.Listen I know all dogs have there bad days but I have never seen those dogs have a good day,I always payed close attention anytime they were working the dogs and I was really amazed at just how bad they were.I never saw one actually run a track the inmates had laid down.Garza East and West,Conally,Darrington, Stiles and Hightower and all the dogs at these units couldnt do the job.I would like to think that at some of the units thats not the case.Just telling it the way I saw it!!!!The inmate that escaped from Hightower was on Stiles when I got there,I asked him if he was scared of the dogs while he was in the brush and he said he was until they ran right passed him and hit the road behind the unit.Good thing for us during that escape that we all had shotguns because these dogs were trying to chew us up once they hit the road.And no we didnt shoot the dogs,we just popped them with the barrel a little!!!

[T-Bob Parker]

I'd be willing to bet the dogs that cover darrington are better than you are giving them credit for, and most of the inmates there oughta know the woods around that particular unit are not the type you'd wanna wade off into with your prison issue flip flops on. Bullmaster I'm not trying to pick a fight, but your just flat wrong. These ain't faceless beurocrats, the men at darrington who I personally know are salt of the earth folks, cross them and find out how salty they can be.

[leifbarnes]

I sure was wondering why they didnt use the dogs when that POS escaped from the Ellis unit in 1998.  After spending a couple nights along the Trinity river getting eaten alive by all the bugs I was ready to go get the SOB. I worked at the Ferguson unit from 98-00 when I was in college.

[willhunt4food]

Wilhunt I have one of those days just about everytime I hit the woods at some point but the publics safety doesnt depend on my dogs.I was also working an escape at the Stiles Unit in Beaumont when 3 inmates busted out,the dogs were put on the track 10 minutes after they hit the fence and the dogs couldnt pick up the track,I think it was 2 weeks later the inmates were picked up within 4 miles of the unit wondering the streets.Luckily these guys werent violent offenders because they were just roaming the streets of Nederland.Listen I know all dogs have there bad days but I have never seen those dogs have a good day,I always payed close attention anytime they were working the dogs and I was really amazed at just how bad they were.I never saw one actually run a track the inmates had laid down.Garza East and West,Conally,Darrington, Stiles and Hightower and all the dogs at these units couldnt do the job.I would like to think that at some of the units thats not the case.Just telling it the way I saw it!!!!The inmate that escaped from Hightower was on Stiles when I got there,I asked him if he was scared of the dogs while he was in the brush and he said he was until they ran right passed him and hit the road behind the unit.Good thing for us during that escape that we all had shotguns because these dogs were trying to chew us up once they hit the road.And no we didnt shoot the dogs,we just popped them with the barrel a little!!!

Bull ....would it be fair to say your judging a book by it's cover ....you watch all of that from the sideline ...not on a horse behind them dogs ....I don't know u and would it be right of me to say out of 35 pages of post u have only saw maybe 2 with hogs u caught ....so looking from Here I would say your dogs can't get the job done

[BULLMASTER]

Get real Will,brother I catch more than my fair share of hogs I just dont feel the need to post them on here.If you will look most of the time when I am in a pic its because someone else posted it or the friends I was hunting with wanted me to post it.I am 46 years old and I have been running some kind of hound since the age of 9 so I might know a little something about what a hound is supposed to do.I doesnt take a rocket scientist to see when a dog goes the wrong way on a track and leaves the country does it?It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that when an inmate is is the bush the dogs shouldnt be attacking the officers does it?Will I was a guided in Paduca Tx for 3 years and have caught more hogs in 1 year than many people will see in a lifetime,not because my dogs are so good but because of the infestation.That was a nice try on your part to descredit my knowledge on working dogs but you gonna have to try a little harder.

[willhunt4food]

Get real Will,brother I catch more than my fair share of hogs I just dont feel the need to post them on here.If you will look most of the time when I am in a pic its because someone else posted it or the friends I was hunting with wanted me to post it.I am 46 years old and I have been running some kind of hound since the age of 9 so I might know a little something about what a hound is supposed to do.I doesnt take a rocket scientist to see when a dog goes the wrong way on a track and leaves the country does it?It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that when an inmate is is the bush the dogs shouldnt be attacking the officers does it?Will I was a guided in Paduca Tx for 3 years and have caught more hogs in 1 year than many people will see in a lifetime,not because my dogs are so good but because of the infestation.That was a nice try on your part to descredit my knowledge on working dogs but you gonna have to try a little harder.

Lol see you don't like being called out ....this thread has made me feel that some of yall thank all state dogs are junk ....there not .....some bad apples not saying we don't ....I've been running some type of hound for 35+ yrs myself and I have a folder full of catches ...offenders,free worlds,missing people ....just don't judge all by a few

......just remember one day the dogs make you look like a hero and the next a zero

[BULLMASTER]

As I think I have stated about 3 times before I was telling you about the dogs I saw from the units I worked on,dont know what unit you work on and hope your hounds do perform better than the ones I have come across.You seem to love your job so I would imagine that you actually do your job unlike many state employees and try your best to get the best out of your hounds.I totally understand there are bad apples in every bunch,I have one in my kennel that is getting really close to the cull section myself.I am also sure that out of the 100s of units in the state and probably thousands of dogs there are some jam up dogs.Good luck with the training of your hounds and I hope you get to turn them lose on a scumbag really soon!!!!That remark about my dogs cut me to the core ;)Its all good man,I didnt work for the state 20 years without growing some thick skin

[treeingratterrier]

Wilhunt I have one of those days just about everytime I hit the woods at some point but the publics safety doesnt depend on my dogs.I was also working an escape at the Stiles Unit in Beaumont when 3 inmates busted out,the dogs were put on the track 10 minutes after they hit the fence and the dogs couldnt pick up the track,I think it was 2 weeks later the inmates were picked up within 4 miles of the unit wondering the streets.Luckily these guys werent violent offenders because they were just roaming the streets of Nederland.Listen I know all dogs have there bad days but I have never seen those dogs have a good day,I always payed close attention anytime they were working the dogs and I was really amazed at just how bad they were.I never saw one actually run a track the inmates had laid down.Garza East and West,Conally,Darrington, Stiles and Hightower and all the dogs at these units couldnt do the job.I would like to think that at some of the units thats not the case.Just telling it the way I saw it!!!!The inmate that escaped from Hightower was on Stiles when I got there,I asked him if he was scared of the dogs while he was in the brush and he said he was until they ran right passed him and hit the road behind the unit.Good thing for us during that escape that we all had shotguns because these dogs were trying to chew us up once they hit the road.And no we didnt shoot the dogs,we just popped them with the barrel a little!!!

  Interesting  about Graza isnt it, joins us and its where they have had 4 over the wire and no catches, up at Conally the Texas 7 escaped,  do you see a pattern here, whats Bull got  to gain and myself from pointing out the obious???  The state produces a flawed product, if it was a good product the prison system would be supplying drug detection dogs,  escapee trailing dogs to every law enforecment state agency, they dont, they have to send off to Germany to purchase dogs while millions of Taxpayers money is wasted on a proven failed system the state prison dog program, the Houston Chroncile pointed this out as well, with all of the time and effort and money every weight station, every dot officer, every dps ought to have a dog trained by the prison sytem, but they dont, why is this??  Its the usual with attack the messanger, dont look now but a criminal is hopping the wire while you are online at work bragging about the texas prison system dog systemLOL  You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time!!!

[dub]

All I know is that it sure sounds like a fun job to me. Go run your dgos and get paid. I am not saying it is the easy life I am just saying that it sounds like a fun job. When I was hunting down by the Rio Grande I saw the group of people go by and then Boarder Patrol. I thought that looked like fun but just no dogs. Willhunt4food I am just curious if it is a full time job or just when you get called out? Maybe I could get paid to put on clothes washed in the prison laundry and run I would just not want it to be prison clothes because someone might shoot me I would be very interested to learn more.

[T-Bob Parker]

Shoot Dub, ill pay you fifty dollars to put on hog in heat scent and run from Connie  we'll give you a 4 minute Headstart

[treeingratterrier]

Saw this add the other day driving by a unit, For Sale, special custom made inmate trailer with seperate boxes for holding escaped prisoners from Graza and Conally unit, NEVER USED, might be good for hog doggers or cowdog hauling, contact any dog sgt at the unitlol

[SCHitemHard]

Shoot Dub, ill pay you fifty dollars to put on hog in heat scent and run from Connie  we'll give you a 4 minute Headstart

hundred bucks and a 2 minute start with a river in between

that would be somethin to get a call from the county askin to track someone, think of the rush you would get off it

[T-Bob Parker]

No river, Connie is my pit. 75 With a 2minute Headstart and cows between.

[willhunt4food]

Shoot Dub, ill pay you fifty dollars to put on hog in heat scent and run from Connie  we'll give you a 4 minute Headstart

hundred bucks and a 2 minute start with a river in between

that would be somethin to get a call from the county askin to track someone, think of the rush you would get off it

DPS called me one time said they had a bailout 4 ran in the woods ....by time I got there they had been on the ground about 5hrs drop a pack of dogs picked up ran maybe 1/2 mile to a ole house and road dogs turned and was working to a pond.....this pond had a Island on it dogs swam out to Island and started treeing or bayen ...I told the trooper there on that island lets swim these horse's on to that island ....He said Im not going in the water So my Asst. and I did ....got in there and dogs had 2 bays we went to one had 4 ....handcuffed went to other ....3 more ....talk about a rush caught 7 and was told 4 ran .....when they wreck the 4 door suv trooper only saw the 4 get out an run from the driver side LOL....it is a rush ....makes all that daily work worth it:)

Dub its a full time job ....3 packs of 8 hounds and 20 horse's and pups ....plus kennel,barn,pasture,truck and trailer upkeep
some kennels have ...pack hounds ,bloodhound scent dogs,cell phone dogs, drug dogs, and cadaver dogs