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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2011, 02:26:08 pm »

I worked on 5 different TDC units and can tell you those dogs are beautiful but culls,if you check there has never in this states history been an escaped inmate caught by a TDC hound.We had an escape on the Hightower unit in Dayton when I worked there in 99 and the dogs were trying to attack the officers that had the prison surrounded,the dogs ran right past where the inmate was hiding several times.The only reason he was caught is because a field boss on a horse spotted him.
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2011, 02:39:28 pm »

well i have a question ? so are the dogs culls or the new younger trainers that aren't dog men /?Huh?
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2011, 04:07:51 pm »

I was contacted several times by agencies around the US who were looking for pups for man hunt training.  I have had some offers to buy some pups after we discussed my stock, but I elected to not sell any pups to them.  Locally around the part of the state where I live, the trainers tell me that their stock has to be completely silient.  They don't want the hound giving away the handler's (on other end of lead) location.  I've seen them work up close and personal, and they were all bloodhounds.  They were accurate.  They test them 5 days a week.  That is the handler's full time job.  I'm not in Texas, but I assure you that the Florida dogs do just fine with what they are designed to do.   Wink
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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2011, 04:31:15 pm »

A good friend of mine works on the dog unit at one of the prisons around Tennessee colony, tx an they still use inmates to lay the tracks everyday... I trust this guy a lot an he says their dogs are pretty jam up.. May not be any evidence of them catchin somebody that escapes but I do not believe the dogs on their unit are culls cause if they were he would be quick to get rid of it!! Just a Lil bit I know about them..
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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2011, 04:56:31 pm »

hey jc i beleive it. thats where i made sausage for the great state of texas in 99 . and they [the dogs ] could get it done . i wound up there for whoopin a thieven ars methhead . judge said whoopin meth heads weren't illiegal but kickin there doors in to do it was . what the hell they kicked my doors in to steal from me . AMERICAN JUSTICE SYSTEM pretty much sucks in my eyes .
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« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2011, 05:06:36 pm »

Yea I don't think there culls either the unit Im talkin about has a bloodhound on it but my dad said they use it more for the public like if an old person gets lost and stuff like that
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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2011, 05:27:56 pm »

I worked on 5 different TDC units and can tell you those dogs are beautiful but culls,if you check there has never in this states history been an escaped inmate caught by a TDC hound.We had an escape on the Hightower unit in Dayton when I worked there in 99 and the dogs were trying to attack the officers that had the prison surrounded,the dogs ran right past where the inmate was hiding several times.The only reason he was caught is because a field boss on a horse spotted him.
 


See what I tried to you guys, the state of texas  lately has never caught an escapee with there dogs, that makes them a strain of completely useless culls bred to eat an crap thats it!!!!!!

All of the convicts know this too, all they have to do is run to the brush on our creek and thru about 5 fences, no guard on a horse or dragging a 20 foot trailer full of barking hounds is going to track them, i think we have had 4 get over the wire next to my camphouse, its a joke in Texas for sure like I saidLOL  U got to practice live escapes in all kinds of conditions every day and have the right equiptment especially a linebred dog from proven mantrailers and catchers!!!  Nuff Said!!  If you can not use live inmates might as well give away all of the dogs becuase they are worthlesslol  By the way, i have found 3 old timers who wandered next to a nursing home at night and one dead body underwater in the Rio Grande river at Quemando Texas with 1 terrier and 2 black mouth curs from Lavon Davis/Bill Don Blevins strain i had going at one time, you got to have a smart easy to handle dog for that kind of work, its not brain doctor work for sure!!!lol
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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2011, 07:28:11 pm »

A few years ago there was a criminal just below the house. He ran from the scene and passed between my house and my neighbors. Then he holed up in an empty house a few hundred yards from my house. The total distance was maybe 1/2 a mile or maybe just a little more.

They brought in the dogs from TDC and they could not track him and he was not found until later. I don't think that they are very good.
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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2011, 07:33:59 pm »

Im 20 yrs tdcj and over 17 running dogs 11 as dog sgt ...I use offenders ever day to lay tracks knightstockterrier  so before u get on here running your mouth about how we cant do this and that get your stuff right ....and i have caught offenders and free world people on call outs with my line breed crap eating dogs  
 
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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2011, 07:35:50 pm »

Here is the link about the texas prison system lawsuit over the dogboys getting bitten  

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/08/16/us/inmates-are-prey-in-ultimate-hunt.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm  


I dont beleive any inmate in a texas state prison is being used for tracking anmore, seems like i saw somewhere they passed a law or changed their policy on them, and i have never seen them using anybody for laying trails next door to where i live and drive by several times a day, something to think about when there is a escape, they are not going to get caught odds are 100 per cent in favor of the inmate, maybe they need women and men hunters like on A and E to save the state of Tecksus!!!lol
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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2011, 07:46:52 pm »

Walked outside this morning to feed my brothers pup this morning and heard some hounds in the woods looked up and I seen a guy that worked for the prison and an inmate on horses out training some young dogs I watched for about 10 mins pretty cool stuff those hounds sure sounded good has anybody ever got a pup off a prison yard before and hunted it

back to your ? ....we sold what we call a cull for what we do one time some yrs back .....if they ever do it again I'll let u know!!
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« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2011, 08:02:51 pm »

  Have been out on a layed track with theses dogs several years back. Not real impressed. But they do still use imates to lay track, usually 1 to 1 1/2 hours old. Inmates lay the track, then get somewhere the dogs can't reach them and wait. They wear a full protective suit. This is in Texas. And the dogs I'm talking about are pack hounds, they also use scent pacific blood hounds or crosses for tracking in populated areas. Also used to hunt lost or missing people( non felons).
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« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2011, 08:09:09 pm »

Willhunt4food do the prison units just breed there dogs to other units or do they step out to different departments are u a dog boss at a unit
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« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2011, 08:35:29 pm »

Willhunt4food do the prison units just breed there dogs to other units or do they step out to different departments are u a dog boss at a unit

We have trained  dogs for out of state  and on other units .... and yes Im a dog sgt on a unit.

I've been doing this for a long time and take alot of pride in my dogs ....when I get called out my dogs and I put it all on the line ....I trust them and they trust me ..... there not pets there tools if the tool dont work then cull it ......I no the state (tdcj) is not for everybody but its been good to me and my Fam ...grandpa,dad and me ......I can tell you its not easy to get a call that someone just killed someone and is armed and ran in the woods .....kiss the wife and 4 kids as Im putting on my bullet proof vest walking out the door ......its not just a job to me .....I want to get the sob so yall can go home to your Fam ......so to all that thank you know what we do and talking all the smack .....one of these line breed crap eating state dogs mite save ur butt one day .....

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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2011, 08:54:22 pm »

I agree with u man I don't think the state would jus have any hounds running around for show or just anybody trying to run and train them like I said my dad works for TDCJ also he has been on a few of those chases and I know how serious they can get and how much pressure can be on yall
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« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2011, 09:45:45 pm »

sounds like night might have a problem with the prison system in general . hell i was locked up and i don't feel that much animosity towards em  Grin
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« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2011, 10:19:43 pm »

Willhunt4food do the prison units just breed there dogs to other units or do they step out to different departments are u a dog boss at a unit

We have trained  dogs for out of state  and on other units .... and yes Im a dog sgt on a unit.

I've been doing this for a long time and take alot of pride in my dogs ....when I get called out my dogs and I put it all on the line ....I trust them and they trust me ..... there not pets there tools if the tool dont work then cull it ......I no the state (tdcj) is not for everybody but its been good to me and my Fam ...grandpa,dad and me ......I can tell you its not easy to get a call that someone just killed someone and is armed and ran in the woods .....kiss the wife and 4 kids as Im putting on my bullet proof vest walking out the door ......its not just a job to me .....I want to get the sob so yall can go home to your Fam ......so to all that thank you know what we do and talking all the smack .....one of these line breed crap eating state dogs mite save ur butt one day .....

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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2011, 12:34:55 am »

Willhunt4food do the prison units just breed there dogs to other units or do they step out to different departments are u a dog boss at a unit

We have trained  dogs for out of state  and on other units .... and yes Im a dog sgt on a unit.

I've been doing this for a long time and take alot of pride in my dogs ....when I get called out my dogs and I put it all on the line ....I trust them and they trust me ..... there not pets there tools if the tool dont work then cull it ......I no the state (tdcj) is not for everybody but its been good to me and my Fam ...grandpa,dad and me ......I can tell you its not easy to get a call that someone just killed someone and is armed and ran in the woods .....kiss the wife and 4 kids as Im putting on my bullet proof vest walking out the door ......its not just a job to me .....I want to get the sob so yall can go home to your Fam ......so to all that thank you know what we do and talking all the smack .....one of these line breed crap eating state dogs mite save ur butt one day .....

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   Is it true yes or no that you have never caught an escaped prisoner  with tracking dogs from your unit??  If it is true post the date and time and newpaper article proving it so we can see if its true???  They have 4 over the wire down here, batting average is Convicts 4 State 0, that tells it all!!!!
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« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2011, 02:07:20 am »

http://www.kbtx.com/local/headlines/Huntsville_Robbery_Suspects_Apprehended_128205948.html

Suspects in an early morning robbery in Huntsville have been apprehended by authorities.

An employee at the Sonic Drive-in restaurant in Huntsville was robbed at gunpoint early Monday morning.

Shortly after midnight, Huntsville Police say 19-year-old Charlie Clayton and 20-year-old Danielle Beamon forced the employee to hand over the keys to his red Toyota Camry, then fled the scene.

Authorities followed the vehicle South on I-45 into Montgomery county. The pursuit continued into Willis, where the suspects exited the interstate before heading North again on FM 2296. They eventually ran off the road into a ditch, then fled on foot into the woods.

With the assistance of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice (TDCJ) tracking dogs, both Clayton and Beamon were captured and charged with Aggravated Robbery.

Clayton and Beamon were transported to the Huntsville Police Department. Both suspects could face additional charges.


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« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2011, 02:13:04 am »

http://www.33districtattorney.com/ResaA.html

This week, a nine woman, three man jury heard the case of the State of Texas vs. Adam George Resa in
a criminal trail at the San Saba County Courthouse.  Adam Resa stood trial for the offense of Burglary of a
Habitation with Commission of Aggravated Assault. District Attorney Sam Oatman assigned First Assistant
District Attorney Tom Cloudt to represent the State of Texas.  Tommy Adams defended Adam Resa.  Jury
selection began Tuesday and after the  conclusion of the evidence and arguments by the lawyers on
Thursday, the jury found Mr. Resa guilty and sentenced him to serve 40 years in prison and to pay a
$3000.00 fine.

      The evidence showed that Adam Resa, along with his brother, Daniel Resa, broke into the home of Joe
and Diane Dobie.  The Dobie’s residence is located in a rural area of San Saba County.  On April 11, 2004,
the Dobies were awakened from their sleep around midnight by the noise of the Resa brothers entering their
locked residence.  They heard the sound of breaking glass as the window in the back door was broken.
When Mr. Dobie confronted the intruders, shots were fired at him and struck the wall next to him, breaking a
nearby window and showering glass down upon him. The burglars fled, still shooting at Mr. Dobie as they
ran.  Mr. Dobie grabbed a rifle and returned fire, but the intruders escaped into the countryside.  San Saba
County Sheriff’s deputy Mike Edgemon responded to the scene and took charge of the investigation.  San
Saba Police Office Allen Brown assisted in a search of the area roads and located and identified Daniel Resa
on a county road leading away from the Dobie’s residence.  Adam Resa’s trail led into the countryside.
Officials from the State Prison in Gatesville brought tracking dogs to assist in the search.  Sgt. Steve
Jennings and others tracked Adam Resa for about eight miles before the dogs forced him to seek refuge in a
tree. Daniel Resa was tried and convicted of the same offense in late 2004 and received a sentence of 60
years in State Prison.

      At trial, Mr. and Mrs. Dobie testified about the terror of that night.  Officer Brown and Deputy Edgemon
provided information about the investigation at the scene and arresting Daniel Resa.  Sgt. Jennings told the
jury about tracking and apprehending  Adam Resa. At punishment, fingerprint expert and Chief Criminal
Investigator Henry Nolan testified about Adam Resa’s extensive criminal record.

Assistant District Attorney Tom Cloudt noted the following:
      “District Attorney Sam Oatman insists that these types of  cases be strongly prosecuted and that tough
sentences be sought.  The jury apparently agreed with Mr. Oatman’s view.  With the forty year sentence, the
jury sent a message  that predators are not welcome in San Saba.  The Resa’s were not San Saba residents,
they just came here to commit their crime.  Hopefully, other criminals looking for a victim will get the message
sent by this jury - Serious criminals that come here and victimize our citizens get serious prison time!”
      “These are the type of crimes that have a profound impact on the victims involved. Folks want to feel
safe in there homes.  These cases undermine that feeling of security that we all want to have in our homes.
As terrible as the incident was for the Dobie’s, we can be thankful that no one was physically injured.  Alone
there in the country, who knows what might have happened if the noise had not awakened them?”
      “The investigation and prosecution involved cooperation of law enforcement at its best.  The San Saba
Sheriff’s Office, San Saba Police Department, Lampasas Police Department, DPS, Mills County Sheriff’s
Office, and  T.D.C.J. (State Prison) were all invaluable in the District Attorney’s Office being able to
successfully prosecute this case.”
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