wormer

[mike rogers]

I would just run down to Tractor Supply Co. and a bottle of Ivomec for cattle and a bottle of liquid goat wormer. I use a 11 cc. total...  1 cc of ivomec and 10cc of the liquid goat wormer.  The only thing I dont like about the horse wormer is that you dont know how it's mixed in the tube.  It's designed for a one single dose on a 1000+ lb horse.  I would rather know for sure how much ivomec their getting.  I've only been doing it every other month here because it's been so dry and we haven't had the flee, tick or mosquito problems. I think the bottle of Ivomec was 38 bucks and the goat wormer was 19 or so, but they last a LONG TIME.....

thanks


mike

[adamp]

I would just run down to Tractor Supply Co. and a bottle of Ivomec for cattle and a bottle of liquid goat wormer. I use a 11 cc. total...  1 cc of ivomec and 10cc of the liquid goat wormer.  The only thing I dont like about the horse wormer is that you dont know how it's mixed in the tube.  It's designed for a one single dose on a 1000+ lb horse.  I would rather know for sure how much ivomec their getting.  I've only been doing it every other month here because it's been so dry and we haven't had the flee, tick or mosquito problems. I think the bottle of Ivomec was 38 bucks and the goat wormer was 19 or so, but they last a LONG TIME.....

thanks


mike

I picked up the ivomec yesterday. Hitting them with I today. Is it too strong for 9week old pups?

[jeskyn]

I would just run down to Tractor Supply Co. and a bottle of Ivomec for cattle and a bottle of liquid goat wormer. I use a 11 cc. total...  1 cc of ivomec and 10cc of the liquid goat wormer.  The only thing I dont like about the horse wormer is that you dont know how it's mixed in the tube.  It's designed for a one single dose on a 1000+ lb horse.  I would rather know for sure how much ivomec their getting.  I've only been doing it every other month here because it's been so dry and we haven't had the flee, tick or mosquito problems. I think the bottle of Ivomec was 38 bucks and the goat wormer was 19 or so, but they last a LONG TIME.....

thanks


mike

I picked up the ivomec yesterday. Hitting them with I today. Is it too strong for 9week old pups?

just use .2 or so cc for pups that young.  you can also just put the ivomec on there food, that does good too.

[adamp]

Ok thanks, yall have been a big help

[de_moon]

Chances are you aren't killing or preventing heartworms with the Zimmectin Gold.  If you are giving them enough to kill heartworms or larvae, you are taking a chance at overdosing your dog.

I'm no vet by any means, but I don't think ivermectin is necessary in 9 week old pups.  It's my understanding that it takes around 6 months for a dog to get invested with larvae and for those larvae to mature into heart worms.  I don't give ivermectin to pups until they are 6 months old.  Panacur & Strongid should take care of any puppy worms.

[mike rogers]

I wouldn't start the Ivomec until the pups are atleast 6 months old. I use a cheap puppy wormer  for pups.  Just make sure it'll kill hook worms. 

[brandeek1]

Safeguard for horses is great. Zimectrin gold tears up the dogs gut. Ivomec works good too but no good for hooks. SG gets all except tapes.

[brandeek1]

Ivomec needs to b started at 6 months. U can give it to adult dogs that are positive for heartworms n after a year they will b heartworm free. Proven. I've raised n bred all kinds, sizes of dogs for over 18 years. I can help with just about any home remedy or cheap cures or flea control.  Just gotta ask.

[brandeek1]

Forgot to post safeguard dosage.... Big tube with turn dial dosage.  One complete turn of dial per 20 pounds of dog. U can overdose a little n b ok. Ivomec dose is anything under 100 pounds 1/2 cc. Over or close to 100 pounds 1cc monthly. Safeguard should b given 3 days n a row.

[J Carroll]

Use 1/10 of a cc per 10 pounds of the ivomec on dogs once a month.

[adamp]

Safeguard for horses is great. Zimectrin gold tears up the dogs gut. Ivomec works good too but no good for hooks. SG gets all except tapes.

Ivomec is no good on hook worms?

[Bryant]

U can give it to adult dogs that are positive for heartworms n after a year they will b heartworm free. Proven.

I've been searching for documented proof of what you just mentioned for years of which I have found absolutely none.  Can you point me in the direction of the data you are referring to?

[Bryant]

For those reading this thread, be aware there is a lot of false information being stated.  Best bet on figuring out how to properly treat your dogs for worms is to just ask your vet.  Most good vets (the kind you would want working on your hunting dogs anyhow) will tell you how to properly use Ivomec and horse/goat wormers to treat your dogs without trying to sell you some high-dollar re-branded product.  Fact is, if your not going to dose them correctly then there's really no point in using them at all.

[JDJP]

I've never read about ivermectin being an all in one wormer, I go with a low dose for heartworms and use valbazen, strongid, and safeguard for intestinal worms. Also if you compare safeguard for horses with safeguard for dogs you'll see they give a much higher dose for dogs, you can order the granules online pretty cheap, its called panacure.
I've heard zimectrin is not good to use on dogs.

Be careful, and do some reasearch outside this forum.

[UNDERDOG]

For those reading this thread, be aware there is a lot of false information being stated.

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[JDJP]

U can give it to adult dogs that are positive for heartworms n after a year they will b heartworm free. Proven.

I've been searching for documented proof of what you just mentioned for years of which I have found absolutely none.  Can you point me in the direction of the data you are referring to?

I can elaborating on this, when you give ivomec to an heartworm positive dog they will test beg for them but they still have them. It just makes them sterile so the eggs don't show up in the test. And in theory the heartworms will eventually die, but you risk the heartworms breaking apart and causing a blockage and death of an active dog. I wouldn't try it.

That's why I say to do your research, yes people may have been doing it this way and that way for years, but unrolled I hear it from a vet, I'm not convinced.

[adamp]

I had read on and off the site about it being a good all in one wormer. However I am starting to have my doubts. Is anyone a long time user of ivomectrin? If so does it kill all intestinal worms? I'm starting to think I should have stuck with safeguard

[Bryant]

I can elaborating on this, when you give ivomec to an heartworm positive dog they will test beg for them but they still have them. It just makes them sterile so the eggs don't show up in the test. And in theory the heartworms will eventually die, but you risk the heartworms breaking apart and causing a blockage and death of an active dog. I wouldn't try it.

Partially correct.  Prior to more modern antigen tests, heartworms were diagnosed by the presence of microfilaria in the bloodstream.  Ivomec kills microfilara (the juvenile form of heartworms) so a dog tested that had been given Ivomec (which is the active ingredient of Heartguard) would show negative even though adult worms could be present.  Microfilaria will NOT develop into adult worms in a dog without passing through a host mosquito first.  The theory behind giving an infected dog Ivomec is to keep him from getting worse and let the adult worms run their (relatively short) life cycle and die naturally.  Hopefully if infestation wasn't severe, damage will be moderate and the dog will eventually be heartworm free.

[JDJP]

I tues you can use it for intestinalworms also, but there are much safer easier ways, otherwise everyone would use only ivomec.
Here is some good info I found online if you don't mind a little reading the math is done for you, and I don't dilute it, just put it on thier food straight.
 http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=13759.0

[adamp]

I tues you can use it for intestinalworms also, but there are much safer easier ways, otherwise everyone would use only ivomec.
Here is some good info I found online if you don't mind a little reading the math is done for you, and I don't dilute it, just put it on thier food straight.
 http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=13759.0

Thanks!