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« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2011, 09:37:08 pm » |
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Everybody will have their own opinion on this topic----mine is that rough dogs will either catch the hog or make him run. I went through a time when I thought I needed rough dogs because pigs broke bay and ran, so I bought a couple of rougher dogs----bays still broke occasionally and hogs ran---vet bills piled up and rough dogs eventually died. As I got older in years I tried the opposite, I have changed dog style again---now I run cowards that wont quit barking and let the catch dog do the catching. Seems the hogs dont break and run as much because of less pressure. I still have a bay break occasionally and still get out run sometimes but I havent been to the vet for repairs in 3 years. Just depends on what you as an individual like and what works for you. We all hunt hogs in totally different areas and situations. If you like what you have stick with it.
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« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2011, 09:43:56 pm » |
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HAHAHA, you just need to hunt what you got and the results will help calm your mind  Trial by fire brother..
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« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2011, 10:30:35 pm » |
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I like loose bay dogs; both of my strike dogs want a hog to stand face to face with them and will put teeth in their rear if they don’t. I have several other dogs that will bay a big hog, two hundred and larger but any smaller is caught on sight. Isn’t exactly what I want, but they don’t have to chase that one. I guess they’re smarter than I give them credit for. I see people talking about vesting there strike and bay dogs, I don’t. I live in south Texas and I have enough trouble with dogs overheating!!
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« Reply #43 on: December 28, 2011, 09:31:37 am » |
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In this discussion you have to take out junk dogs. ALot of people will claim their dog is rough because it runs in and tries to grab. Thats not rough.... thats junky. ALthough I like loose dogs , if the hogs are moving I expect them to put teeth on them. If that are bayed they need to back up and bark. A dog that NEVER puts any teeth on a hog can make for just as long of a night as a junky one always bumping bayed hogs.
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« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2011, 09:47:14 am » |
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After reading all of the posts about rough dogs over the years....maybe what I call a rough dog isn't what everyone else is calling a rough dog because the dog that I call rough (RED) has been on hundreds of hogs and he we gauge how big a hog is by whether or not Red is baying or quiet because he is caught. He always catches with the cd also. We got him three years ago as a pup. He has only been to the vet one time and that was to get a toe amputated because of an infection. On the other side of the spectrum is our loose baying dog (Foot) he doesnt have many scars and he will even bay a smaller hog. He doesn't always help catch, he is the one that will roll out if we tell him to. I always read about rough dogs having lots of vet bills, so maybe ol Red isn't as rough as I thought. 
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« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2011, 10:37:48 am » |
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I like to hunt ruff dogs that knows their limitations for the most part 4-6 rough catahoulas is all I ran for the last 9 years and still do for the most part and I ride the unicorns  and if its going bad the unicorns get to play since Trippz and Queen are on the retirement plan will be using the white dogs more for catching and less for riding Dexter
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« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2011, 01:43:39 pm » |
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IMO-It has alot to do with the country you hunt. Open timber tracts may be more suited to a rougher type dog that can get to a runner. Loose bay dogs seem to work better in heavy thickets.
In my experience a rough dog will break alot of bays in a heavy thicket and cause those 2 mile runs.
I have rough,loose and I usually hunt the dogs best sutted to the terrain.
Most of my places get dogged every week and is very bad thickets. 1 loose bay dog usually and 3 straight catch RCD's,1 lead in CD works best for me.
IMO-If a Rough dog can't get to a runner he can't stop him. I know that Im always looking for that perfect dog that will find,bay,shut one down and get in his face,catch,roll,YaYaYa. There is a few out there but very hard to find and even harder to get your hands on.
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« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2011, 02:15:57 pm » |
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IMO-It has alot to do with the country you hunt. Open timber tracts may be more suited to a rougher type dog that can get to a runner. Loose bay dogs seem to work better in heavy thickets.
In my experience a rough dog will break alot of bays in a heavy thicket and cause those 2 mile runs.
I have rough,loose and I usually hunt the dogs best sutted to the terrain.
Most of my places get dogged every week and is very bad thickets. 1 loose bay dog usually and 3 straight catch RCD's,1 lead in CD works best for me.
IMO-If a Rough dog can't get to a runner he can't stop him. I know that Im always looking for that perfect dog that will find,bay,shut one down and get in his face,catch,roll,YaYaYa. There is a few out there but very hard to find and even harder to get your hands on.
100% right on...open woods/country and it was a caught hog...thick heavy brush and my dogs were running a hog. Still might catch it but the dogs or maybe not due to over heating or trespassing...with lots of money one can breed both types...
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