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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2012, 08:29:24 pm » |
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Yup ....Lmao ! Ya its Brewing aint it ! yeppers  i am on the fence... seen it go both ways. loose dogs with tons of bottom run them for ever and rough dogs run them for ever. if a rough dog cant get close enough to put a tooth in one i dont see a pig stoppin for them. |
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2012, 08:29:50 pm » |
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2012, 08:32:09 pm » |
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sometimes with the real rough you catch one big one and go home... Yep empty handed... without hogs or dogs. |
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2012, 08:36:09 pm » |
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sometimes with the real rough you catch one big one and go home... Guess I was always lucky when I had thoses dogs. I was never put out of commission longer then a few days. I had less dogs injured and cut up as well when I ran 2 or 3 on the ground togeather, and could and would bet money the hogs never got further then 50-100 yrds from where the first sound was 98% of the time. All the dogs I ever lost was to stupid errors on my part or being shot. I learned the hard way NEVER take just one catchdog you know you can depend on when hunting with somebody elses catchdogs. I lost one of my best ones due to that reason. Like I said STUPID mistakes on my end lost me more dogs then hogs ever have. |
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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2012, 08:37:16 pm » |
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TX, how long ago was it when you had the rough super dogs? I had the same kinda dogs 15 years ago and caught piles of pork but them same dogs wouldn't do as well on alot of the places we hunt now days.
yea Bryant...close to 15 years ago I lost 2 dogs so went about an hour past where you live to look at buying a dog...I took a ten month old pup and he caught 4 hogs in an hour or so. They were all 125 pound pregnant sows but they didn't run far...They been running like that over here since the 1980's...seems like we had more hog hunters around here back then than now... The same pup couldn't catch one by himself in my area at that time... |
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2012, 08:38:20 pm » |
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I haven't hunted every where but I've hunted several different places in tx ar and la and haven't saw a place that hogs run any worse than in woodville and coldsprings and we catch good hogs with gritty but loose baying dogs.
Maybe y'all just caught all the dumb hogs and the smart running ones are line breeding? Lol
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2012, 08:41:06 pm » |
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I haven't hunted every where but I've hunted several different places in tx ar and la and haven't saw a place that hogs run any worse than in woodville and coldsprings and we catch good hogs with gritty but loose baying dogs.
Maybe y'all just caught all the dumb hogs and the smart running ones are line breeding? Lol
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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2012, 08:43:48 pm » |
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I haven't hunted every where but I've hunted several different places in tx ar and la and haven't saw a place that hogs run any worse than in woodville and coldsprings and we catch good hogs with gritty but loose baying dogs.
Maybe y'all just caught all the dumb hogs and the smart running ones are line breeding? Lol
lol line bred runners .... stick them all and let the easy catches go. |
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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2012, 08:54:36 pm » |
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Where we hunt we have to produce numbers to keep the places. When you quit producing they get somebody who can. Give me a gritty/catchy dog that can find his own hogs anyday. I will send you all the loose baying non gritty dogs I come across anyday. My best dogs have been 1/2 or 1/4 bulldog. Fixing to start breeding back for that ASAP.
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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2012, 08:54:45 pm » |
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This is just me and the kind of country we hunt Iam sure there is different types of dogs for different types of country . Over here if you ain't got the right amount of grit stop and some catch in them they gonna run all day long . I knocked the catch out of mine and look whats happened and apparently when you talk about knocking the catch out of dog you are also sacrificing a ton of stop power the two kinda running neck and neck . Knock one out and you gonna knock some of the other also that is what has hurt me .
I know of a hunter not far from you at all. He has some real loose dogs, with lots of bottom. That mexican piles up the pork. |
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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2012, 08:56:33 pm » |
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I know of a hunter not far from you at all. He has some real loose dogs, with lots of bottom. That mexican piles up the pork. [/quote] I know folks like that in my areas as well. They hunt high fences LOL. Or hounds and put shooters on the known trails LOL. |
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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2012, 09:01:35 pm » |
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I still got them them one gyp is 9 fixing to be in heat. The other two are 8 going on 9. Also got a grand daughter of the 9 year old her daddy was also the straight stuff he is the CO dog, she is just like her grandmother the 9 year old ruff and bad but she ain't bigger than 35 lbs because of the hard hard line breeding saving her for a brood gyp cause there ain't much of that blood left . There is one pictular dog you can almost breed him to a full fledge Pit and I would bet if you had a liter of 9 ,
7 of them would not catch and the other two might not never seen anything like it . Puts everything else you want but boy you breed him one time to a bad ruff catchy gyp and you got a liter that will hardly touch a hog bay them all day long but the ruff catch is gone gone its back up and bay . I bred him to two of the three females and every dog in those liters are back off bay dogs some will catch the back end spin one but other than that forget the ruff ruff catchy stuff. I have not bred many of these dogs just what I needed and thought I wanted but I will go back to the old style.
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« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2012, 09:14:07 pm » |
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I lost two dogs in ten years not bad for as many bad bad hogs they have all turned in.
As far as the sewing goes aint nuff thread at a grandmaws house .
The races almost never happened just every now and then was not many that got away.
Two - Three years into back off breeding it seems like it happens a lot but still get hogs and some good ones but the really really bad boys its a all day ordeal and still a lot of the times go home whipped.
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« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2012, 09:24:11 pm » |
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I know a mexican not for from me to that piles up some pork if it is the same guy I sold him one of the best find dogs he has owned for 150 bucks a year later he some him for around 2500 bucks . Known him for years if it is the same guy.
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« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2012, 09:26:12 pm » |
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We pile up pork to am talking about the big bad dudes that get away .
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« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2012, 09:31:51 pm » |
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« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2012, 09:32:23 pm » |
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Jim im fooling with two different lines of dogs. Both are known to hunt hard and have plenty of bottom. But one line is rougher than I like but dead silent. The other is gritty to stop one but will bay most hogs and not catch, only problem I have with them is most of them are open on track. I wana cross the two but it'll take years to get it all together like I want them to work.
Did you start your line or buy into it? Just curious...
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« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2012, 09:34:02 pm » |
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This is just me and the kind of country we hunt Iam sure there is different types of dogs for different types of country . Over here if you ain't got the right amount of grit stop and some catch in them they gonna run all day long . I knocked the catch out of mine and look whats happened and apparently when you talk about knocking the catch out of dog you are also sacrificing a ton of stop power the two kinda running neck and neck . Knock one out and you gonna knock some of the other also that is what has hurt me .
I know of a hunter not far from you at all. He has some real loose dogs, with lots of bottom. That mexican piles up the pork. There is just something I admire about dogs that will truly strike, stick with, bay, and work a hog. Different strokes for different folks…… Most of the oltimers I started out hunting with, wouldn’t hunt a dog that would put their mouth on a hog or tear one up. I always thought that mentality came from a different perspective, where people used their dogs to work their animals, whether that be to round up, mark, or sell. Most couldn’t afford to have their livestock tore up. Some of the ol guys in my area still talk about what it was like to free-range and ear mark hogs. That’s always an enjoyable, but often a one sided conversation where I rarely speak, but listen for all my ears are worth. Either way times are changing, use what works for you and enjoy your hunts… JMO… |
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« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2012, 09:40:08 pm » |
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This is just me and the kind of country we hunt Iam sure there is different types of dogs for different types of country . Over here if you ain't got the right amount of grit stop and some catch in them they gonna run all day long . I knocked the catch out of mine and look whats happened and apparently when you talk about knocking the catch out of dog you are also sacrificing a ton of stop power the two kinda running neck and neck . Knock one out and you gonna knock some of the other also that is what has hurt me .
I know of a hunter not far from you at all. He has some real loose dogs, with lots of bottom. That mexican piles up the pork. There is just something I admire about dogs that will truly strike, stick with, bay, and work a hog. Different strokes for different folks…… Most of the oltimers I started out hunting with, wouldn’t hunt a dog that would put their mouth on a hog or tear one up. I always thought that mentality came from a different perspective, where people used their dogs to work their animals, whether that be to round up, mark, or sell. Most couldn’t afford to have their livestock tore up. Some of the ol guys in my area still talk about what it was like to free-range and ear mark hogs. That’s always an enjoyable, but often a one sided conversation where I rarely speak, but listen for all my ears are worth. Either way times are changing, use what works for you and enjoy your hunts… JMO… I hear you brother... but them big, flop eared domestics aint runnin' the woods like they were back in the day!!! |
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