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« on: January 22, 2012, 09:34:11 pm »

I'll try to keep this short.

I dont understand or agree with the hunters that are sticking hogs or just cutting heads of boars.  I would not classify myself as an "old timer", but I was trained by some "old timers".  Boars were made barrs and sows were left alone.  If we did/do catch hogs, they are caught alive and tied or hobbled.  Once all the dogs are caught and tied, we take the hog to the truck/4-wheeler or we bring the truck/4-wheeler to the hog alive.  If we are going to eat the hog, we take the hog home alive and them do the deed.  Maybe it is just a new breed of hunters or maybe people want to see hog sticking on you-tube.  Me persoanlly, I dont think it is cool to see some guy running in and sticking a hog before the hog is tied.   I know what the laws say about transporting live hogs, and the laws are different in different places.  I'm just saying I dont agree with it and I really dont care to see it.
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2012, 09:42:11 pm »

Don't watch the videos!
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2012, 09:47:52 pm »

lol, i see both sides as usual, from my perspective, i'd like to see the meat come to me so I could bbq it up, or a needy family, but I also realize that the coyotes, turkey vultures, and so many more creatures will eat it as well.


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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2012, 09:52:04 pm »

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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2012, 09:52:57 pm »

well i stick every hog i catch becouse some of the places i hunt if the land owner catches me leaveing with live hogs ill get run off .  SO THEY ALL DIE
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 09:58:52 pm »

I used to turn em all loose and cut boars but they are out of control wher I live. So I started killin every hog I catc.h. They have messed up to many deer seasons for me.
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 10:27:32 pm »

If you can drag em out alive its all good but sometimes you just have to stickem
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 10:31:56 pm »

You said you don't want to see someone stick a hog before it was tied why would you tie a hog then stick it don't make much sense to me but does it really matter how or when the hog is dispatched and if it's not for you then don't watch the videos or hunt with people that stick hogs simple enough
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 10:49:20 pm »

I'll try to keep this short.

I dont understand or agree with the hunters that are sticking hogs or just cutting heads of boars.  I would not classify myself as an "old timer", but I was trained by some "old timers".  Boars were made barrs and sows were left alone

----Ok, that kind of thinking is exactly how the hog population got out of control in the first place. I don't think I'll be letting any sows go so they can have 6 or more pigletts at a time, tear up my land again, and make this OVERPOPULATION any worse. (p.s. in case you havent heard hogs are overpopulated... simple fact)
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 10:51:21 pm »

----Ok, that kind of thinking is exactly how the hog population got out of control in the first place. I don't think I'll be letting any sows go so they can have 6 or more pigletts at a time, tear up my land again, and make this OVERPOPULATION any worse. (p.s. in case you havent heard hogs are overpopulated... simple fact) 

 
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 10:56:22 pm »

It takes more skill and more work to bring the pigs out alive, NO DOUBT.  perhaps not always more skill, but definitley mre work which allows for fresh meat to reach more people.
so i definitely have more respect, and for motherforkingassuredly more respect si due to the dudes who bring and deliver the porker alive.


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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 10:58:07 pm »

it also depends on the local pig population, one of my propeties has number 2 loads of pigs, and the other has zero.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2012, 11:08:36 pm »

 Sometimes we catch and hobble and sometimes we stick them. But if we ever catch a hog and turn it loose, we will loose our hunting place. The deal we made with the land owner is to help eliminate the hogs. We can take a hog off of the property alive only if we want to butcher it or give it to someone to eat. Honestly I cant afford to keep and feed all of the hogs we catch. 
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2012, 11:30:24 pm »

How do you feel about bay and shoot. Most people will get kicked off their places if they turn hogs out after catchin them. I pretty much take everything out alive now mainly because I need the money, but I had never even heard of a cd till about six years ago. Everything I knew was bay and shoot and it was simply to keep hogs run out of the area in a way we enjoyed.
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2012, 11:40:42 pm »

I'll try to keep this short.

I dont understand or agree with the hunters that are sticking hogs or just cutting heads of boars.  I would not classify myself as an "old timer", but I was trained by some "old timers".  Boars were made barrs and sows were left alone.  If we did/do catch hogs, they are caught alive and tied or hobbled.  Once all the dogs are caught and tied, we take the hog to the truck/4-wheeler or we bring the truck/4-wheeler to the hog alive.  If we are going to eat the hog, we take the hog home alive and them do the deed.  Maybe it is just a new breed of hunters or maybe people want to see hog sticking on you-tube.  Me persoanlly, I dont think it is cool to see some guy running in and sticking a hog before the hog is tied.   I know what the laws say about transporting live hogs, and the laws are different in different places.  I'm just saying I dont agree with it and I really dont care to see it.

not being rude however

a pig sticker has saved a many of dogs ive hunted behind for as long as i cemember what happens when you got a bad hog bayed and several dogs hanging off ears,legs, anywhere they can and your not able to throw a rope or get a shot off? a knife has always been handy for me id much rather carry out a stuck hog from 600 yards versus carrying a live hog any day of the week!! that double edged blade has saved dogs ive ran quite a few times, there my hunting partners and ill do anything to keep them protected just my opinion.
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2012, 11:46:57 pm »

We stick a lot and we tie some and try to make this thing pay for itself when we can but that dont happen all the time because some of the places we hunt with the gulleys so bad you cant get the wheeler in to were the hog is and I myself aint draggin no hog 1/4 1/2 mile my draggin-packin days are over and other times you got fences  to cross cant get a wheeler in there.  Another reason is the people we hunt for you get caught turning one loose and you are threw and word spreads like wildfire to other farmers and ranchers.  The ones we do stick we most the time try to take the back straps and a ham are two when we can .  Hey the buzzards and other wild life gotta eat to .  lol
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 08:52:44 am »

First, for me, we video to be able to watch the dogs work because it happens pretty fast out there. It's good to be able to look back and see/hear who was there first, or what dog was doing what. It’s not always the easiest thing to do out there on every hunt either, so it’s cool when you can get it on vid. Secondly, there are some other people who like to see how others hunt, and their progression.  We hobble hogs and take ‘em out alive, but we also stick em. For most hunters that I know, barrs are part of the old way. Like most have said already, if one of the landowners caught us cutting and releasing hogs that would be the end of our hunting spot. They want them dead. We feed needy homes, friends, and ourselves with this meat. If you can get em out alive cool, that’s either money in the bank, or training for pups… but if they are hurting dogs, or are out in the middle of no-where then they’re gona be dispatched and broken down for grub for someone. The rest goes to the circle of life. Grin
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2012, 09:03:06 am »

around here north west fl were i live we dont have a lot of hogs . if we catch a sow and we want her we stick her if we dont we turn it loose .if we catch a boar hog and if we dont want him we turn him loose a barr  . we hunt other places where if it stops it drops and then we donat the meat to the needy
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2012, 09:33:34 am »

Where is that popcorn smiley???  Grin
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2012, 10:18:10 am »

71409 whe're you from ?  alot of people without and overpopulation of hogs don't understand the way we do things in texas . i'm an old timer and i personally would like to see every hog in texas either in a pen or dead or on the pit . them i can go back to my true passion of coon and rabbit huntin without all of the pork interfearing with the hunt and eating up all the mast crops and destroying turkey nest my friends that farm pastures ect.ect.ect.. and if you are not part of the solution YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM and if we can't control them our tax dollars and govt. will . just my 2 cents
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