Hog sticking???

[muleman]

71409 whe're you from ?  alot of people without and overpopulation of hogs don't understand the way we do things in texas . i'm an old timer and i personally would like to see every hog in texas either in a pen or dead or on the pit . them i can go back to my true passion of coon and rabbit huntin without all of the pork interfearing with the hunt and eating up all the mast crops and destroying turkey nest my friends that farm pastures ect.ect.ect.. and if you are not part of the solution YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM and if we can't control them our tax dollars and govt. will . just my 2 cents

Amen!! they say that we have to kill 7 out of every 10 pigs every year just to maintain the population where it is....we aint getting anywhere near that. Buzzards gotta eat too! same as worms

[ED BARNES]

" Buzzards gotta eat too! same as worms "
OUTLAW JOSIE WALES?

[blakebh]

I'll try to keep this short.

I dont understand or agree with the hunters that are sticking hogs or just cutting heads of boars.  I would not classify myself as an "old timer", but I was trained by some "old timers".  Boars were made barrs and sows were left alone.  If we did/do catch hogs, they are caught alive and tied or hobbled.  Once all the dogs are caught and tied, we take the hog to the truck/4-wheeler or we bring the truck/4-wheeler to the hog alive.  If we are going to eat the hog, we take the hog home alive and them do the deed.  Maybe it is just a new breed of hunters or maybe people want to see hog sticking on you-tube.  Me persoanlly, I dont think it is cool to see some guy running in and sticking a hog before the hog is tied.   I know what the laws say about transporting live hogs, and the laws are different in different places.  I'm just saying I dont agree with it and I really dont care to see it.

We never catch and realease! Thats just adding to the already growing problem. We usually stick the hogs because we are a long ways away from the trucks and dont own any type of 4wheeler to get them out. On several occasions have had to kill the hog because they were whoopin up on the dogs. Not to mention most places I hunt you couldnt get a 4 wheeler to them if you wanted to and I dont feel like draggign a hog worth tying a mile. JMO

[TShelly]

I'll try to keep this short.

I dont understand or agree with the hunters that are sticking hogs or just cutting heads of boars.  I would not classify myself as an "old timer", but I was trained by some "old timers".  Boars were made barrs and sows were left alone.  If we did/do catch hogs, they are caught alive and tied or hobbled.  Once all the dogs are caught and tied, we take the hog to the truck/4-wheeler or we bring the truck/4-wheeler to the hog alive.  If we are going to eat the hog, we take the hog home alive and them do the deed.  Maybe it is just a new breed of hunters or maybe people want to see hog sticking on you-tube.  Me persoanlly, I dont think it is cool to see some guy running in and sticking a hog before the hog is tied.   I know what the laws say about transporting live hogs, and the laws are different in different places.  I'm just saying I dont agree with it and I really dont care to see it.

not being rude however

a pig sticker has saved a many of dogs ive hunted behind for as long as i cemember what happens when you got a bad hog bayed and several dogs hanging off ears,legs, anywhere they can and your not able to throw a rope or get a shot off? a knife has always been handy for me id much rather carry out a stuck hog from 600 yards versus carrying a live hog any day of the week!! that double edged blade has saved dogs ive ran quite a few times, there my hunting partners and ill do anything to keep them protected just my opinion.

You flip him and tie him!!!

 Lots of times I don't even take a knife. Just rope to tie

[TShelly]

I'll try to keep this short.

I dont understand or agree with the hunters that are sticking hogs or just cutting heads of boars.  I would not classify myself as an "old timer", but I was trained by some "old timers".  Boars were made barrs and sows were left alone.  If we did/do catch hogs, they are caught alive and tied or hobbled.  Once all the dogs are caught and tied, we take the hog to the truck/4-wheeler or we bring the truck/4-wheeler to the hog alive.  If we are going to eat the hog, we take the hog home alive and them do the deed.  Maybe it is just a new breed of hunters or maybe people want to see hog sticking on you-tube.  Me persoanlly, I dont think it is cool to see some guy running in and sticking a hog before the hog is tied.   I know what the laws say about transporting live hogs, and the laws are different in different places.  I'm just saying I dont agree with it and I really dont care to see it.

I completely agree! I don't mind not turning sows back loose from a population stand point. But almost all boar hogs are cut and released where we are and transported to a barr rich hunting lease and kicked loose.

I agree it is a new trend, most old timers are as you describe. I do understand the aspect of not turning hogs back loose on crop land or destructive properties. To me narrowing and tieing hogs is a lost art! I contribute this to the rather large new, influx of weekend warrior hog hunters

[mark]

well i stick every hog i catch becouse some of the places i hunt if the land owner catches me leaveing with live hogs ill get run off .  SO THEY ALL DIE

X2

[PEEWEE]

I agree it is a new trend, most old timers are as you describe. I do understand the aspect of not turning hogs back loose on crop land or destructive properties. To me narrowing and tieing hogs is a lost art! I contribute this to the rather large new, influx of weekend warrior hog hunters
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it's not a new trend bin hunting hogs 20 years bin sticking hogs for 20 years

[HDMdogs]

I'll try to keep this short.

I dont understand or agree with the hunters that are sticking hogs or just cutting heads of boars.  I would not classify myself as an "old timer", but I was trained by some "old timers".  Boars were made barrs and sows were left alone.  If we did/do catch hogs, they are caught alive and tied or hobbled.  Once all the dogs are caught and tied, we take the hog to the truck/4-wheeler or we bring the truck/4-wheeler to the hog alive.  If we are going to eat the hog, we take the hog home alive and them do the deed.  Maybe it is just a new breed of hunters or maybe people want to see hog sticking on you-tube.  Me persoanlly, I dont think it is cool to see some guy running in and sticking a hog before the hog is tied.   I know what the laws say about transporting live hogs, and the laws are different in different places.  I'm just saying I dont agree with it and I really dont care to see it.

not being rude however

a pig sticker has saved a many of dogs ive hunted behind for as long as i cemember what happens when you got a bad hog bayed and several dogs hanging off ears,legs, anywhere they can and your not able to throw a rope or get a shot off? a knife has always been handy for me id much rather carry out a stuck hog from 600 yards versus carrying a live hog any day of the week!! that double edged blade has saved dogs ive ran quite a few times, there my hunting partners and ill do anything to keep them protected just my opinion.

You flip him and tie him!!!

 Lots of times I don't even take a knife. Just rope to tie

ok so i guess i shoulda noted that theres not a four wheeler, atv, utv or anything else around to load a live hog on.. your all arms for 600 yards back to the truck with a kicking, flopping, head slinging hog with daggers.. ill carry a knife, some people have different ways of hunting everyone i hunt with carrys a pig sticker, the old timers i occasionally hunt with carry a gun and ride horses.
if its a smaller hog ill hobble it and drag it out..

[TShelly]

I agree it is a new trend, most old timers are as you describe. I do understand the aspect of not turning hogs back loose on crop land or destructive properties. To me narrowing and tieing hogs is a lost art! I contribute this to the rather large new, influx of weekend warrior hog hunters

it's not a new trend bin hunting hogs 20 years bin sticking hogs for 20 years
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Ok let me rephrase old timers with true dogmen! If you were to compare the group of hog hunters 20 years ago to hog hunters as a whole now I can guarantee you would see an overall increase in the percentage of "hog hunters" that kill the hogs instead of working. That myself is a trend.. Wen something becomes more popular

People state the exceptions to a rule instead of the norm too many times in hog hunting; and then develop their beliefs and actions upon these

[blakebh]

I'll try to keep this short.

I dont understand or agree with the hunters that are sticking hogs or just cutting heads of boars.  I would not classify myself as an "old timer", but I was trained by some "old timers".  Boars were made barrs and sows were left alone.  If we did/do catch hogs, they are caught alive and tied or hobbled.  Once all the dogs are caught and tied, we take the hog to the truck/4-wheeler or we bring the truck/4-wheeler to the hog alive.  If we are going to eat the hog, we take the hog home alive and them do the deed.  Maybe it is just a new breed of hunters or maybe people want to see hog sticking on you-tube.  Me persoanlly, I dont think it is cool to see some guy running in and sticking a hog before the hog is tied.   I know what the laws say about transporting live hogs, and the laws are different in different places.  I'm just saying I dont agree with it and I really dont care to see it.

I completely agree! I don't mind not turning sows back loose from a population stand point. But almost all boar hogs are cut and released where we are and transported to a barr rich hunting lease and kicked loose.

I agree it is a new trend, most old timers are as you describe. I do understand the aspect of not turning hogs back loose on crop land or destructive properties. To me narrowing and tieing hogs is a lost art! I contribute this to the rather large new, influx of weekend warrior hog hunters

I think unless you hunt hogs for a living then you could fall into the weekend warrior category. LOL Wouldnt that just be best described as differences in hunting styles?

[catchrcall]

But what is the hog population now compared to what it was twenty years ago?  What were the landowners attitudes about barring or catch and released as opposed to now?  I'm pretty sure I would fall under the description of a "weekend warrior" hog hunter, and I'll tell you right now that I'm just doing what my landowners want, which is the most important thing when it comes to keeping a place to hunt.  What do you think would happen if I had somebody call me about hogs tearing up this or that, and I want out there, caught a boar, cut him and turned him loose and the landowner found out?  It better be a set of nuts worth mounting because they probably just cost you a place to hunt.

[PEEWEE]

I agree it is a new trend, most old timers are as you describe. I do understand the aspect of not turning hogs back loose on crop land or destructive properties. To me narrowing and tieing hogs is a lost art! I contribute this to the rather large new, influx of weekend warrior hog hunters

it's not a new trend bin hunting hogs 20 years bin sticking hogs for 20 years

Ok let me rephrase old timers with true dogmen! If you were to compare the group of hog hunters 20 years ago to hog hunters as a whole now I can guarantee you would see an overall increase in the percentage of "hog hunters" that kill the hogs instead of working. That myself is a trend.. Wen something becomes more popular

People state the exceptions to a rule instead of the norm too many times in hog hunting; and then develop their beliefs and actions upon these
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the men i started hunting hogs with were hunting hogs before there were a bunch of hogs around they hunted javelin and when they got a hog it was a treat and they stuck every hog

[TShelly]

But what is the hog population now compared to what it was twenty years ago?  What were the landowners attitudes about barring or catch and released as opposed to now?  I'm pretty sure I would fall under the description of a "weekend warrior" hog hunter, and I'll tell you right now that I'm just doing what my landowners want, which is the most important thing when it comes to keeping a place to hunt.  What do you think would happen if I had somebody call me about hogs tearing up this or that, and I want out there, caught a boar, cut him and turned him loose and the landowner found out?  It better be a set of nuts worth mounting because they probably just cost you a place to hunt.

If my original post was read and properly interpreted I DID say that I understand where hogs should NOT be released on destructive properties or farm land.... Meaning places where you are brought in to remove an Kill hogs.

Jeez I understand not to go against landowners wishes, that's how properties are lost. we dont just cut everyhog where we catch him an cut him back loose. We have properties where it is forbidden to leave with anything dead.

In general though our group of hog hunters work the hogs like livestock. That's also why we catch 20+ barr's a year.

We will stick them and kill them in certain situations when the action is called for or required!

[sfboarbuster]

I'll try to keep this short.

I dont understand or agree with the hunters that are sticking hogs or just cutting heads of boars.  I would not classify myself as an "old timer", but I was trained by some "old timers".  Boars were made barrs and sows were left alone.  If we did/do catch hogs, they are caught alive and tied or hobbled.  Once all the dogs are caught and tied, we take the hog to the truck/4-wheeler or we bring the truck/4-wheeler to the hog alive.  If we are going to eat the hog, we take the hog home alive and them do the deed.  Maybe it is just a new breed of hunters or maybe people want to see hog sticking on you-tube.  Me persoanlly, I dont think it is cool to see some guy running in and sticking a hog before the hog is tied.   I know what the laws say about transporting live hogs, and the laws are different in different places.  I'm just saying I dont agree with it and I really dont care to see it.

I completely agree! I don't mind not turning sows back loose from a population stand point. But almost all boar hogs are cut and released where we are and transported to a barr rich hunting lease and kicked loose.

I agree it is a new trend, most old timers are as you describe. I do understand the aspect of not turning hogs back loose on crop land or destructive properties. To me narrowing and tieing hogs is a lost art! I contribute this to the rather large new, influx of weekend warrior hog hunters

Amen brother!

[blakebh]

But what is the hog population now compared to what it was twenty years ago?  What were the landowners attitudes about barring or catch and released as opposed to now?  I'm pretty sure I would fall under the description of a "weekend warrior" hog hunter, and I'll tell you right now that I'm just doing what my landowners want, which is the most important thing when it comes to keeping a place to hunt.  What do you think would happen if I had somebody call me about hogs tearing up this or that, and I want out there, caught a boar, cut him and turned him loose and the landowner found out?  It better be a set of nuts worth mounting because they probably just cost you a place to hunt.

I would definitly be classified in the weekend warrior category! LOL

[RyanTBH]

But what is the hog population now compared to what it was twenty years ago?  What were the landowners attitudes about barring or catch and released as opposed to now?  I'm pretty sure I would fall under the description of a "weekend warrior" hog hunter, and I'll tell you right now that I'm just doing what my landowners want, which is the most important thing when it comes to keeping a place to hunt.  What do you think would happen if I had somebody call me about hogs tearing up this or that, and I want out there, caught a boar, cut him and turned him loose and the landowner found out?  It better be a set of nuts worth mounting because they probably just cost you a place to hunt.

I would definitly be classified in the weekend warrior category! LOL

x2!!! no doubt about that brother! I won't say that if I could do this for a living I wouldn't! I'm in the woods every chance I get, but as of now... it's only on the weekends. (not even that for a few more weeks  )

[BA-IV]

We tie 99% of the hogs we catch whether we are taking em out, butchering them or marking and barring them.  Tony said it best, we work em like livestock. I do understand on farmlands and places where you've been asked to kill or remove them, but that's rare for us. I enjoy catching big barrs though.

[TShelly]

But what is the hog population now compared to what it was twenty years ago?  What were the landowners attitudes about barring or catch and released as opposed to now?  I'm pretty sure I would fall under the description of a "weekend warrior" hog hunter, and I'll tell you right now that I'm just doing what my landowners want, which is the most important thing when it comes to keeping a place to hunt.  What do you think would happen if I had somebody call me about hogs tearing up this or that, and I want out there, caught a boar, cut him and turned him loose and the landowner found out?  It better be a set of nuts worth mounting because they probably just cost you a place to hunt.

I would definitly be classified in the weekend warrior category! LOL

Blake "weekend warriors" is a term we use loosely describing all groups of people and sports. I certainly dont see you as a weekend warrior, I meant more so the guys that get amped up about hog hunting. Get all into it for a year or two and then move on to something else..  I dont hog hunt for a living but being in school still we do try and hunt 3 or 4 times a week until summer hits

We tie 99% of the hogs we catch whether we are taking em out, butchering them or marking and barring them.  Tony said it best, we work em like livestock. I do understand on farmlands and places where you've been asked to kill or remove them, but that's rare for us. I enjoy catching big barrs though.

Thanks Ben

[make-em-squeel]

Ughhh liberls.... I stick and leave 90% of the hogs we catch, with the exception of the head I take home for a trophy or backstraps for meat. They bleed out while the CDs swinging off the ear.

You know why thats ok!?!? Let me tell you....These are not deer, dove, quail, etc. Its a varmit costing farmers and cattlemen and their families huge profits! Were allowed to hunt for 1 reason and its to get them off the property they are destroying! We dont dent the population, dogs just push them elsewhere.

Dont force opinions on other people, why do you say hobbling is better than sticking them, what liberal ideology / logic do you use?

[make-em-squeel]

But what is the hog population now compared to what it was twenty years ago?  What were the landowners attitudes about barring or catch and released as opposed to now?  I'm pretty sure I would fall under the description of a "weekend warrior" hog hunter, and I'll tell you right now that I'm just doing what my landowners want, which is the most important thing when it comes to keeping a place to hunt.  What do you think would happen if I had somebody call me about hogs tearing up this or that, and I want out there, caught a boar, cut him and turned him loose and the landowner found out?  It better be a set of nuts worth mounting because they probably just cost you a place to hunt.

If my original post was read and properly interpreted I DID say that I understand where hogs should NOT be released on destructive properties or farm land.... Meaning places where you are brought in to remove an Kill hogs.

Jeez I understand not to go against landowners wishes, that's how properties are lost. we dont just cut everyhog where we catch him an cut him back loose. We have properties where it is forbidden to leave with anything dead.

In general though our group of hog hunters work the hogs like livestock. That's also why we catch 20+ barr's a year.

We will stick them and kill them in certain situations when the action is called for or required!

Thats fine if it works for you, BUT DONT FORCE YOUR STYLE ON ME! Thats the problem...Sticking hogs is good for the eco system farmers cattle deer etc etc etc. I personally work 6 days a wk and have church on sunday and 2 kids, I simply dont have time to do anything but get the dogs on a lead and get home, and to the pleasure of the landowners I hunt for kill more hogs by not wasting any time messing with a caught one AND THERE ISNT A DANG THING WRONG WITH THAT!