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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2012, 08:05:51 pm » |
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If hounds have such.a great nose why does coon hunters hunt at night. Why not trail the coon to his bed.Lol well sometimes I don't think it's how cold that nose is. I think it's how smart the dog is about trailing.
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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2012, 08:11:20 pm » |
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Who said coon hunters only hunt at night? I've treed quite a few during the while using trashy coon dogs to hunt hogs and to quote a line from where the red fern grows " Cause are out at night Jenny "
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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2012, 08:16:00 pm » |
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Lol just stirring the pot.  i really think a dog with more brain can move a colder track than a dog with a colder nose. |
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2012, 08:17:53 pm » |
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whoops  needed to add " night " in this line - I've treed quite a few during the while and " Coons " to this one - Cause are out at night Jenny Dang I miss that "edit " button that was on here before, guys like me need it. my fingers work faster than my brain some times |
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2012, 08:35:17 pm » |
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Yall keep these hound threads up. As we speak individuals are getting ready to aquire a few, make up a bloodline and peddle away...  |
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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2012, 08:55:17 pm » |
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I need that edit button too!
I agree Chance. I think a more intelligent dog can move a track faster also. They just have less misses. Ive seen young or just souped up, fast as heck dogs stay "missed" on a track more than they are moving it. Ive seen old worn out, slow as heck dogs outfind em all. Same with the smart young dogs.
It goes nacb to my first comment on this thread about how their brain is using that information the nose is getting.
Folks with open dogs had an advantage over the silent dog people before the Garmin came around. Just by listening and knowing their dogs, they could tell what dog was out front, what dog was bringing up the rear, and what dog had missed or lost the track.
The Garmin will tell the tale most of the time or at least help you put the story together with what you see and hear on a hunt.
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2012, 09:07:31 pm » |
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I need that edit button too!
I agree Chance. I think a more intelligent dog can move a track faster also. They just have less misses. Ive seen young or just souped up, fast as heck dogs stay "missed" on a track more than they are moving it. Ive seen old worn out, slow as heck dogs outfind em all. Same with the smart young dogs.
It goes nacb to my first comment on this thread about how their brain is using that information the nose is getting.
Folks with open dogs had an advantage over the silent dog people before the Garmin came around. Just by listening and knowing their dogs, they could tell what dog was out front, what dog was bringing up the rear, and what dog had missed or lost the track.
The Garmin will tell the tale most of the time or at least help you put the story together with what you see and hear on a hunt.
x2...cold nose and intelligence is definitely a big advantage. Cold nose and speed enables the dog to move the track fast and brain power to cut and slash and find the exit tracks from a feeding area... a smart dog makes it look easy when it comes to lining out a track or finding hogs...these are the above average hunting dogs... |
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2012, 09:14:06 pm » |
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Reuben, I think you may be a little confused. Alan and Chance are referring to thier dogs working dillars. Trust me, them Ninja dogs don't stand a chance with them Ward dogs around. Those are the finest dillar tracking curs I have ever seen. Fine meat dogs. Track rats too. They are ate up with those Ward family brains. Crystal goes to school you know. Short bus or not, she's getting her education.  |
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2012, 09:44:06 pm » |
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Reuben, not to fluff your pillow but you often spout wisdom during a lot of babbling that gets going " .cold nose and intelligence is definitely a big advantage. Cold nose and speed enables the dog to move the track fast and brain power to cut and slash and find the exit tracks from a feeding area... a smart dog makes it look easy when it comes to lining out a track or finding hogs...these are the above average hunting dogs... " We call the above- track drivers - and there what all hounds/curs should be. a border collie is a super smart dog, but is he a known track driver? - nope - you gotta have brains, but you gotta have nose to go with it to be a track driver |
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2012, 09:57:31 pm » |
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Reuben, I think you may be a little confused. Alan and Chance are referring to thier dogs working dillars. Trust me, them Ninja dogs don't stand a chance with them Ward dogs around. Those are the finest dillar tracking curs I have ever seen. Fine meat dogs. Track rats too. They are ate up with those Ward family brains. Crystal goes to school you know. Short bus or not, she's getting her education. I don't know why I checked this thread. I was fixing to go to bed. I did see a cold nose hound trail a dilla .62 miles then bay I think I was in Florida. Lol |
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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2012, 10:00:32 pm » |
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Reuben, not to fluff your pillow but you often spout wisdom during a lot of babbling that gets going " .cold nose and intelligence is definitely a big advantage. Cold nose and speed enables the dog to move the track fast and brain power to cut and slash and find the exit tracks from a feeding area... a smart dog makes it look easy when it comes to lining out a track or finding hogs...these are the above average hunting dogs... " We call the above- track drivers - and there what all hounds/curs should be. a border collie is a super smart dog, but is he a known track driver? - nope - you gotta have brains, but you gotta have nose to go with it to be a track driver I have owned some good dogs and a few track drivers...no one here talks about the mtn curs but I have seen some good ones. |
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2012, 10:20:34 pm » |
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no one here talks about the mtn curs but I have seen some good ones.
There is a reason you are the only one that keeps bringing them up. WE DON'T SQUIREL HUNT!! This is a hog dog forum. |
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2012, 10:29:12 pm » |
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"no one here talks about the mtn curs but I have seen some good ones" I love them dogs, just can't find any up here in this short brush cow country. I want one BAD, to me there about as middle of the road between the hound and cow type cur as you could get. I also think there as good all around game dog as ever lived from what I read. Maybe they will gimme a big fat bonus at work this spring and I'll be able to put my little toyota down there to your area and find one. Don't mind cutter, he would buy one if he could find some body silly enough to take them blue dogs off his hands for what he has in them |
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« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2012, 10:29:56 am » |
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Reuben, not to fluff your pillow but you often spout wisdom during a lot of babbling that gets going " .cold nose and intelligence is definitely a big advantage. Cold nose and speed enables the dog to move the track fast and brain power to cut and slash and find the exit tracks from a feeding area... a smart dog makes it look easy when it comes to lining out a track or finding hogs...these are the above average hunting dogs... " We call the above- track drivers - and there what all hounds/curs should be. a border collie is a super smart dog, but is he a known track driver? - nope - you gotta have brains, but you gotta have nose to go with it to be a track driver I have owned some good dogs and a few track drivers...no one here talks about the mtn curs but I have seen some good ones. There is nothing wrong with a mountaincur, one of the best dogs I ever hunted behind was a mtn cur Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk |
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« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2012, 11:01:15 am » |
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no one here talks about the mtn curs but I have seen some good ones.
There is a reason you are the only one that keeps bringing them up. WE DON'T SQUIREL HUNT!! This is a hog dog forum. I heard Dale Cameron bred a blue mtn cur to his best bluetick gyp about 25 years ago to improve his line of dogs...his dogs became famous after that infusion...and I also heard that he sent a few down south to florida...and all the bad bluetick genes have been weeded out so anyone can now breed a good hunting bluetick...  |
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« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2012, 06:00:04 pm » |
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" I heard Dale Cameron bred a blue mtn cur to his best bluetick gyp about 25 years ago to improve his line of dogs...his dogs became famous after that infusion...and I also heard that he sent a few down south to florida...and all the bad bluetick genes have been weeded out so anyone can now breed a good hunting bluetick.. "
Del Cameron dogs..... whew boy, should I, Shouldn't I.......... Nah I won't go there, God Bless and to each his own.
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« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2012, 06:22:43 pm » |
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no one here talks about the mtn curs but I have seen some good ones.
There is a reason you are the only one that keeps bringing them up. WE DON'T SQUIREL HUNT!! This is a hog dog forum. I heard Dale Cameron bred a blue mtn cur to his best bluetick gyp about 25 years ago to improve his line of dogs...his dogs became famous after that infusion...and I also heard that he sent a few down south to florida...and all the bad bluetick genes have been weeded out so anyone can now breed a good hunting bluetick... WTH?!?! Someone crossed a Cur over their hounds to improve them???!!!!! HAHA. And all this time I thought a hound was supposed to make a cur better. |
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« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2012, 06:57:31 pm » |
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Ninja, Reuben hasn't had a dog of his catch a hog in over 2years. Now he's just trying to confuse everyone with hefty fibs. Heck, he would not even use Del's name, but rather used his first cousin's name to confuse us even more. His info is as faulty as it gets. Don't buy into it. On a side note, Ninja don't you owe us litter pics or something? Cough um up!  |
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« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2012, 07:05:35 pm » |
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Ruben, I don't think that cur dog rumor was Cameron I think it was Dave Dean and the hammer dogs....the Cameron dogs don't show it anyway but the hammer dogs sure do.
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« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2012, 07:08:33 pm » |
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Ninja, Reuben hasn't had a dog of his catch a hog in over 2years. Now he's just trying to confuse everyone with hefty fibs. Heck, he would not even use Del's name, but rather used his first cousin's name to confuse us even more. His info is as faulty as it gets. Don't buy into it. On a side note, Ninja don't you owe us litter pics or something? Cough um up! back in the eighties it took a while to see the light and get some good dogs...thought it would be easy the second time around...been more than 2 years and might be another 2 years before I get something I like...good dogs are hard to come by...I am hoping on this pup of mine...he looks good at 4 months old... |
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