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Dexter
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« on: March 01, 2012, 06:30:04 am »

Been reading thread after thread folks gettinga new dog and getting it home and chunking it in the pen or the woods,
dogs are a pack animal and it takes time  for dog to merge into a new pack of dogs and owners as your the leader of the pack
voices are differnt,smells are strange, places are wierd. 
 If you dont think strange places and people/dogs arnt a little unsettling  go to a strange bar by yourself  I bet you dont get out and hunt right away Grin
 Makeing a good dog doesnt happen over night  or in a week  I dont care if you raise and train it or buy it
       IT TAKES TIME, TIME AND A LOT MORE TIME
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 07:02:31 am »

Well said dexter....i always get a laugh when i see on the trading post "going hunting saturday night,need strike dog bad". Are you kidding me!! Or someone getting a baydog home then bashing the seller saying he wont bay the hog in a pen at all,just hours after thery get him home. These are the people that show up as a HUGE red light for me as not being dog men or women and wonder why they cant get aahead in the game. I would love to see a thread on this forum regarding dogs ages and how many years that those particular dogs were owned by one owner its whole life.......i think you will find they will be the top 5 percent sought after dogs in the industry that could never be bought. Slow down and take your time fellas,get to know and enjoy your dogs and you will reap the benefits for a long time.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 07:04:20 am »

Very well put, I don't tend to get out 'n hunt tell I know the game and the players. LOL On another note some cur types may never hunt for me as they did for him!
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 07:07:03 am »

Are you referring to a  young started dog or a seasoned finished strike dog?
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2012, 08:45:01 am »

Dexter, you couldn't be more right! I normally give new dogs, if they're not puppies, 2-3 weeks on my yard with my pack before they even go out in the woods with me. Feeding, petting, and playing to a certain extent. Once they will come to me when I call their name, and I can tell they are comfortable around me and my pack, then I will hunt them. It does take time... JMO
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 08:51:32 am »

i keep new dogs on the chain for a few weeks feed them make them my friend an then slowly start working them into my program ... works for me
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 09:36:26 am »

"I can tell they are comfortable around me and my pack, then I will hunt them" as ryan said....

with my blackjack dog he was cool with everyone right off the bat and i took him hunting two days after i got him and he did great. on the other hand I got another dog a while back that took a month or more just to be able to lay hands on him in the kennel. you can tell when they are ready..... dont rush.

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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2012, 11:51:13 am »


with my blackjack dog he was cool with everyone right off the bat and i took him hunting two days after i got him and he did great. on the other hand I got another dog a while back that took a month or more just to be able to lay hands on him in the kennel. you can tell when they are ready..... dont rush.

What did you see in the dog that took a month to warm up to you that kept you from getting rid of him?
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2012, 04:47:31 pm »

Ive got one now that has took 3-4 months til she really started coming around to me and my other dogs.

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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2012, 04:11:08 am »

Ive got one now that has took 3-4 months til she really started coming around to me and my other dogs.

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This probably seems a long time to some guys, but it's alot easier to keep a dog out of a good bloodline or a breeding you know that produces around awhile longer.  Waiting on dogs like these to come around is like waiting on Christmas when you were a kid.  You know it's coming, can't get here fast enough, but was worth the wait when it did get here.
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2012, 05:24:16 am »


with my blackjack dog he was cool with everyone right off the bat and i took him hunting two days after i got him and he did great. on the other hand I got another dog a while back that took a month or more just to be able to lay hands on him in the kennel. you can tell when they are ready..... dont rush.

What did you see in the dog that took a month to warm up to you that kept you from getting rid of him?

a friend of mine bought a dog that was a heck of a hunting dog...but he wouldn't hunt for over 3 months. Then 1 day like the light switch turned on...but the dog finally decided that was his new home... i think it took so long because my friend didn't have much dog experience at that time...not to mention that a lot of mtn curs won't hunt for another...

some dogs will hunt the first day but either way a dog needs to learn to come to your call and be around you as much as possible for as long as it takes to make sure the dog has settled in...I say focus more on getting the dog to accept you as the new pack leader before hunting him.
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2012, 04:00:46 pm »

I somewhat agree, but would express a couple of points.  All I can tell you about is my dogs....when my hit the ground, they go hunting. Now they are not young pups, maybe young pups would be different.  It doesn't matter where they are at or who is around them...they m(my dogs) hunt for hogs.  They hunt by themselves or with strange dogs, it does not matter to them.  They may not act the same at another persons house but...they don't go to anothers house. 

I dont know a lot about putting dogs in strange pens, but i could certainly see why a young dog might not do much in a strange pen.  But what is a buyer suppose to do when the sellers says...put him in a pen and he will bay?  Okay, I know you may think that the buyer should have tried the dog first...I agree, but that is not always an option.  Maybe the dog bays in the sellers pen and the sellers says the dog will bay in the buyers pen...if I was the buyer, i would try it.
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2012, 06:02:48 pm »

i've never even thought about trying to work a dog till i've sociolized with the dog for a couple weeks and that is the advice i give every one . just makes good sense with a started dog or an older finished dog . now some dogs will go huntin rite off the bat . they are usually the more independant dogs that hunt for themselves not the handler . hounds are good at huntin for anybody but these cur dogs is differant mentally . cur dogs seem to bond with one person pretty quick . and i've got one of my best dogs i can garranty you if i died tomorrow he wouldn't hunt a lick the rest his life .
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2012, 07:04:00 pm »

I somewhat agree, but would express a couple of points.  All I can tell you about is my dogs....when my hit the ground, they go hunting. Now they are not young pups, maybe young pups would be different.  It doesn't matter where they are at or who is around them...they m(my dogs) hunt for hogs.  They hunt by themselves or with strange dogs, it does not matter to them.  They may not act the same at another persons house but...they don't go to anothers house. 

I dont know a lot about putting dogs in strange pens, but i could certainly see why a young dog might not do much in a strange pen.  But what is a buyer suppose to do when the sellers says...put him in a pen and he will bay?  Okay, I know you may think that the buyer should have tried the dog first...I agree, but that is not always an option. 


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and the bay pen don't tell anything about the hunt in the dog. I guarantee there are dogs as good as the best that only hunt for their master and no one else...
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