How many of y'all hav the old style cur dogs?

[Kid7]

Sittin at my desk lookin at my geometry book slowly dying inside so i figured id start a topic tgat ive been wanting to hear about. I hav a Blackmouth pup that's about a year old and is as leggy as a great Dane almost lol. All the cur dogs I see people use now are kinda on the smaller side. But An old cowboy was at the house the other day and saw my dogs and started rattling on story's about the old style stock dogs that were about 80-100 pounds, and real leggy. Not foundation bred either....! I really enjoyed looking at his old pictures of his dogs working and hearing stories. If anybody has or used to hav these old style big leggy cur dogs lets hear some stories and see some pics!

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

When i think of an old style cur dog I visualize a block headed leggy Yeller dog that was a step off of a catch dog. Usually very short range and dead silent. (Poacher style cur dogs)  I guess a persons visualization of what an OLD STYLE is, would have alot to do with the persons age and what they were exposed to during their youth. I only have one dog on my place that fits my  model ole style cur dog and he isn't even out of my dogs.  I had never seen or heard of a catch dog until hunting for six or seven years and the big pit craze started. Prior to that we used all rough cur dogs. When we got to bay we told them to catch and that porky pig was streched.  Alot of the old cowdogs I recall were built a little different. They were leggy but alot thinner framed. More stream lined I guess you would say. I have a mixture of the two traits in mine and it just goes from litter to litter on what trait will show heavier. I personally like the cowdog frame better due to they usually can do some traveling and the stamina to keep up. But I love the old poacher dogs as well cause them yellers need GAME OVER stamped on the flanks when they go in a thicket.

This is an old dog built and hunts the way I visualize the old style thicket hog dogs. He is from Indianvalleyranch brother and they have no background on him except he came from an old ladies house. Dead silent short range and absolutely GAME OVER dog when he gets there. I use him for a straight catch dog and he will die on the place. In his younger day he was a monster prob weighed 85 plus.



These several pics are more throwbacks to the cowdog side and build.







And here is both side by side. The old dog on the left was just as leggy as the pup but heavier built in his day.



Anyway great post man should be interesting to see what else pops up.

[Kid7]

Good lookin yellas! I guess I should hav been more specific. I am leaning more toward the thinner framed, long legged cover some country type dogs

[3-Bdogs]

They look leggy to me... kid7 the dogs you described are what I consider newer style

[Kid7]

Well idk Wat to tell ya bud. I've talked to about 5 different guys that are in their 50s and 60s and one that was 70 and they all talked about tge dogs they had and every other old cowboy had were real leggy I'm talkin like 3 1/2 foot tall and about 80-100 pounds. And they were Blackmouth curs. They never heard of a catch dog till after they quit huntin. Now I have no clue Wat kinda dogs you hav or Wat you see and I'm not tryin to be a smarta$$ by any means but every cur dog I've seen was anywhere from 30-60 pound range. They can still be leggy but they weren't thinner framed dogs that weigh 80-100 pounds.

[TexasLacy]

I've got one of both that ya;ll are describing, but the smaller one is crossed with a pit.  The leggier dog, is tall, close to 70 lbs, big blocky head.  the shorter dog, it what I consider to be the better build.  I consider her more athletic...

[charles]

 good looking yellers. they kinda look like ladner bred dogs.

[3-Bdogs]

Do you have a pic of what your describing maybe I'm not comprehending what your meaning

[djhogdogger]

 A friend of mine has one just like you are describing. His name is Bighead. I will try to get a picture and post it tomorrow. He is just a bit shorter than a great dane and has a big ol block head. LOL, they use him on cattle but he is real rough so they don't use him often. He is getting old. I thought about finding a female like him to breed to just because Ive havent seen very many like him.

[mod93dirt]

I have not been hunting very long and am just starting to get my own pack going. The "old style" cur dogs as you and YBM describe are what I am pretty sure I would like to have in my yard. I've got buddies who have some sure enough straight catch yeller dogs, but none of them are built the way I want. I am after some big, leggy, block headed, and  heavy built like a brick $hitouse dogs. I am wanting little to no bark, but a whole lotta catch. I dont want dogs that wont get away from your feet, but I dont want dogs that hunt a mile out  unless they are actually on a hog either as we usually hunt smaller properties. I have seen pics on the interweb of dogs built like I want, but finding them in the real world is a different story. I have hunted with BayemandSlayem, who hunted with RockinRoo, who had a yeller dog from Bill Tolson that sounds like what I am after, and from the pics I seen of him looks like it too. I want some big yellers that step up into the truck bed, not have to jump into it. And yellers that when you just look at them you immediately think them are some bad ass dogs!

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

Guess the newer style dogs everybody is referring to are probably the foundation dogs since they are so mainstream these days. Most of them come smaller famed in the 50lbs and under range. The old dog above was around 80lbs and up when younger the pups are around 70 lbs. Camera angll might be lil misleading but they have all been put on the scales.

Here is a 90 lb Yeller if this is what your speaking of on left?
Downfalls I have delt with on the 100lb plus or minus dogs is stamina and range.
they are just like a heavyweight fighter, winded easily and once the stamina is gone they are completely done.
But again they usually make up for it with agression and the size to back it up.

[Kid7]

Do you have a pic of what your describing maybe I'm not comprehending what your meaning

No I don't hav any pics. I should hav thought ahead sorry. But Wat I am talking about is Wat yellowblackmask described the block headed ones with lots of leg under them

[3-Bdogs]

Ok I thought you were talking about narrow headed type dogs my opinion the first pic ybm posted is what I consider old stock

[Kid7]

YELLOWBLACKMASK hit the nail on the head! That 90 pounder is a mirror image of the dogs in the pictures I saw. Good lookin dogs yellowblackmask

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[T-Bob Parker]

This one here is pretty dang old style I guess. Long legs, large body but at around 65 pounds she is built for stretching out and going all day

She ain't the least bit gritty catchy rough, whatever you wanna call it and from what I've learned from her, she don't need to be.



This next one is also from a couple pretty old lines and while she will catch if I ask it of her, she knows that ain't her job and I like it that way.

[treeingratterrier]

 


Hope you are not implying these are susposed to be old time  Black mouth cur dogs because they are not, never were and never will, just because you got roo in your title and come over and claim you are now a dog man dont make it true, you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time, lets get this tolson bs over with and debunk it before some newbie thinks that they are even black mouth curs much less a old time black mouth cur.  These dogs have too much size and bull dog heads and i bet he can not or you can  not prove they were or are black mouth curs that have not have some recent  outside breeds in them, after all, you were not there much less even alive to know the difference between a kangerroo and a blackmouth cur so how can you claim tolsons dogs are anything but something created to sell pups to newbies like you and others who dont know the difference in the first place.  Sounds like dog promotion 101 to me, lets see some pictures from at least 50 years ago if he really has a strain.  It is what it is, huge dog with black muzzle, thats all i see.  Looks like those Carathasns Bruno who uglydog on here can link to adds calling them catahoula bulldogs but 2 years later bruno is a yellow black mouth curLMAO!!!!!  There is nothing on the web about his dogs so fill us in why u claim these are even yellow black mouth curs much less old time black mouth curs, did you not post some bull dog pups pics from his kennel a way back on here seem to me i remeber??  Willis aint buying it!!!

[Kid7]

Well dang I didn't want this to start a fire! I just saw old pictures and heard stories I hav absolutely NO proof or clue they were Blackmouth curs for all I know they could hav been half donkey lol anyways I don't wanna run anybody down

[djhogdogger]

Well dang I didn't want this to start a fire! I just saw old pictures and heard stories I hav absolutely NO proof or clue they were Blackmouth curs for all I know they could hav been half donkey lol anyways I don't wanna run anybody down

I think all this rain is getting to people.....any how....

 I want to post a pic up real bad but Im not taking my fresh washed truck out there to take the pic. I asked my friend to send me a pic next time he goes to the barn and he said tomorrow. Im telling you. This dog is exactly what you described.

[muleman]

 


Hope you are not implying these are susposed to be old time  Black mouth cur dogs because they are not, never were and never will, just because you got roo in your title and come over and claim you are now a dog man dont make it true, you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time, lets get this tolson bs over with and debunk it before some newbie thinks that they are even black mouth curs much less a old time black mouth cur.  These dogs have too much size and bull dog heads and i bet he can not or you can  not prove they were or are black mouth curs that have not have some recent  outside breeds in them, after all, you were not there much less even alive to know the difference between a kangerroo and a blackmouth cur so how can you claim tolsons dogs are anything but something created to sell pups to newbies like you and others who dont know the difference in the first place.  Sounds like dog promotion 101 to me, lets see some pictures from at least 50 years ago if he really has a strain.  It is what it is, huge dog with black muzzle, thats all i see.  Looks like those Carathasns Bruno who uglydog on here can link to adds calling them catahoula bulldogs but 2 years later bruno is a yellow black mouth curLMAO!!!!!  There is nothing on the web about his dogs so fill us in why u claim these are even yellow black mouth curs much less old time black mouth curs, did you not post some bull dog pups pics from his kennel a way back on here seem to me i remeber??  Willis aint buying it!!!

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