Texas as its own country??

[cajunl]

your just a sore looser for loosing the battle of san jacinto.

Is that you poor attempt of calling me Mexican?

[cajunl]

Been there once and the beer was good!

[Circle C]

Seems like we could use a few more men like William B Travis these days.

To The People of Texas and
All Americans In The World --
February 24, 1836

    Fellow citizens & compatriots --

    I am beseiged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna -- I have sustained a continual Bombardment & cannonade for 24 hours & have not lost a man -- The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken -- I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the walls -- I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism, & every thing dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch -- The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily & will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible & die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor & that of his country --



To Jesse Grimes
March 3, 1836

    Do me the favor to send the enclosed to its proper destination instantly. I am still here, in fine spirits and well to do, with 145 men. I have held this place for ten days against a force variously estimated from 1,500 to 6,000, and shall continue to hold it till I get relief from my country or I will perish in its defense. We have had a shower of bombs and cannon balls continually falling among us the whole time, yet none of us has fallen. We have been miraculously preserved. You have no doubt seen my official report of the action of the 24th ult. in which we repulsed the enemy with considerable loss; on the night of the 25th they made another attempt to charge us in the rear of the fort, but we received them gallantly by a discharge of grape shot and musquertry, and they took to their scrapers immediately. They are now encamped in entrenchments on all sides of us.

    All our couriers have gotten out without being caught and a company of 32 men from Gonzales got in two nights ago, and Colonel Bonham got in today by coming between the powder house and the enemy's upper encampment....Let the convention go on and make a declaration of independence, and we will then understand, and the world will understand, what we are fighting for. If independence is not declared, I shall lay down my arms, and so will the men under my command. But under the flag of independence, we are ready to peril our lives a hundred times a day, and to drive away the monster who is fighting us under a blood-red flag, threatening to murder all prisoners and make Texas a waste desert. I shall have to fight the enemy on his own terms, yet I am ready to do it, and if my countrymen do not rally to my relief, I am determined to perish in the defense of this place, and my bones shall reproach my country for her neglect. With 500 men more, I will drive Sesma beyond the Rio Grande, and I will visit vengeance on the enemy fighting against us. Let the government declare them public enemies, otherwise she is acting a suicidal part. I shall treat them as such, unless I have superior orders to the contrary.

    My respects to all friends, confusion to all enemies. God Bless you.

[charles]

 thats my way of saying if your not proud of texas and dont support its freedom, then get out. your no better than the filthy british loyalist during the revolution of americas independence.

[cajunl]

Texas is the greatest state in the union........after Louisiana!



(To make it clear.....That was a joke to everyone!)

[charles]

 thats is possibly the same thought of the british traitors during the 1700s saying the new america is a great place, as long as the king may rule

[5G ybmc]

I,M IN BROTHER ALL THE WAY

[charles]

 if your in support then post for your support of a free texas, if not, do not post and we will know who the real supporters of texas are.

[T-Bob Parker]

Cocked, locked, and ready to rock!!

[Reuben]

My turn. 

Why be a second string jacked up banana republic country of our own having to live next to a bunch of backwards corrupt, drug snorting, freeloading moocher buttholes on one side and Mexico on the other border??!?!? 

If we retain our statehood, we retain the right to lord it over the lesser states that we are the best!!!
It's like when a small town high school linebacker is on top of the world while in school, when he graduates he's gonna be bald, fat with a ugly wife and annoying kids who he drives around in his Chrysler T&C.

Poor fella falls asleep at night watching Law & Order SVU with a pint of bluebell strawberry ice cream dreaming of his days as the king of the dairy queen.



Let's stay a state and stay #1

 

if texas were it own country the first thing to do is rid ourselves of all the animal rights activist, peta included...send them all to california...and bring back chicken fighting... and then we would go to war with mexico and put them under TEXAS rule...no more illegals period....not even legally from any country...the borders will be closed until further notice...you can come visit, vacation and spend your money here but you can't homestead or buy property here...

Rueben,

    I've got a question for you, as it seems you have been involved in the Tex-Mex culture.   I've asked my machinist, and a few other mexican friends and never received what I felt like was an educated answer.

   This has to do with Mexican pride.   I've observed many immigrants, many of them here illegally (overstayed visas) that pay homage to Mexico by flying the flag, decals on their trucks, etc.   Why, if Mexico is so grand, did they come to Texas?
I'm a native Texan, and have lived here all my life, with the exception of a one year stint in Wyoming as a child. So I don't fully comprehend the point of flying a flag for a county that one doesn't even live in.   If, God forbid, I had to move to California, I don't believe I would be flying a Texas flag, and if I was to move to old Mexico, I wouldn't fly the Texas flag...  Seems weird to me to see the Mexican flag flying in US soil...  Is it just a cultural thing?    

 

Your thoughts?

well, i can't answer for those guys as to why they fly the mecican flag...I have never owned one and never will. my grandfather was born in Texas in 1882 ans so was his father but don't know the exact date...now, my mothers side were mostly spaniards that made the moutains in mexico home and were well off at one time but thanks to the mexican revolution all was lost except for all the land and the minature alamo look alike hacienda...the money and gold was seized by Pancho Villa's men...and that is how that side of the family moved here...don't know much more than that about my heritage...

So I am 100% USA and 100% TEXAN...

I agree with what others have said...if you want to fly the mexican flag then move back to mexico...

More than likely their kids that are born here will not fly the mexican flag...

[waylon-N.E. OK]

I like to see the pride of all you Texans and though your a big republic, the federal government would simply cut off all of your supply lines within a week of your declaration of nationality and occupy your state with troops after that. Your people are gritty but wholly unprepared for sustainability on your own. JMO

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[T-Bob Parker]

You Okies are just jealous because we gave that junk of land away as a big ol bay pen fer wild injuns. 

[KevinN]

Hmmmm..... I'm Texan thru and thru, born and bred. I served my country, the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and lost a platoon member in combat. I consiser myself a patriot for Texas and our Country. I plan on joining the TDHA very soon because of my love of our sport and their lobbyist. That is about the extent of my political interest. Because of my lack of interest in politics and the fact that im not going to really participate in anything political I don't vote on anything, federal or state. I leave the governing to those who are interested and qualified and I don't broadcast the political opinions I do hold. If your willing to work for political beliefs, really work, then by all means feel free to do that work and get up on your stump but I don't think this forum is the place for these types of discussions. JMO

[Circle C]

Hmmmm..... I'm Texan thru and thru, born and bred. I served my country, the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and lost a platoon member in combat. I consiser myself a patriot for Texas and our Country. I plan on joining the TDHA very soon because of my love of our sport and their lobbyist. That is about the extent of my political interest. Because of my lack of interest in politics and the fact that im not going to really participate in anything political I don't vote on anything, federal or state. I leave the governing to those who are interested and qualified and I don't broadcast the political opinions I do hold. If your willing to work for political beliefs, really work, then by all means feel free to do that work and get up on your stump but I don't think this forum is the place for these types of discussions. JMO

You don't vote, yet you have an opinion about where political discussions should be handled.... Interesting.

[KevinN]

I'm sorry, I was under the impression this was a hunting forum. I appologize.

[charles]

 it is a public forum that is associated with hunting. as long as the admins dont care of the topics, then why worry about it. you dont vote, there for you dont have a say so on anything political, including your love of dogs bc your rights to keep your dogs are fought by politicians.

now waylon, the feds can only shut off supply lines from the surrounding states. they have NO rights to texas waters or international waters to ship and receive supplies. as far as sending in troops and occupying, I hope they brought a lot of body bags. once a declaration is submitted the feds aint got any rights to the state our its resources, only to move their military bases, troops and supplies out of the country. i know at 1 point in time according to our inbrief at ft hood, the land hood is on is stil owned by the original families that lease the land to the feds.
 if the feds want to keep their bases, then they can continue to lease the land, but at any point and time, texas has the right to tell them to pack their crap and get out. tx has its own constitution and was a soviern nation till they joined the union, not bought into the union such as louisiana and the states the made up the louisiana purchase., and alaska, who we bought from russia. they want a war, come on, but they need to bring their own body bags for their dead

[Reuben]

 this thread is in the general discussion section...and the description reads exactly as below because I cut and pasted it...not disrespecting you at all Kevin...heck we tend to think a lot alike on dog training/hunting etc...but anyway...we can talk about most anything here as long as it doesn't get TOO out of hand...
but that old saying...if we're going to swim with the sharks... we had better act and think like one I think it's a sayin...


GENERAL DISCUSSION
 This section is for discussing anything and everything.

[KevinN]

No arguments with anything you said Charles. Just a couple questions. Do you think dividing your brothers ( Dog hunters from other states and especially from Texas) is an especially bright idea? As you have stated I have no say so but what about others? Are they ostracized because they hold different beliefs than you? Do the Texas dog hunters in their late teens and early twentys who serve their country and love to hunt on their leaves earn a scowell from you? They would be the ones you would be sending home in body bags. Do you think discussions like this color dog hunters in a good light? There are plenty of political forums for discussions like this. I just think it would be wise to use this site for what it was created for.

[KevinN]

Your right Reuben. This is just such a great site. I hate to see threads posted that can benefit no one. "That's all I have to say about that." - Forrest Gump 

[charles]

 kevin, to answer your question as to our young soldier who enjoy hunting on leave. I was ask a couple yrs ago by my CO and Btn Co, that if the feds ask for citizens to disarm and had to send the troops in to disarm. would I do it? my answer was bring a stock pile of body bags and they better double plate their front and backs b/c i would turn my weapon on any1 that tried to disarm or force me and other to disarm the citizens. i do understand your line of questioning and it is something that would have to be hashed out before we could declare our independence. no as to our fellow hunters, they would free to move about the state as long as they have a temp visa just as we need if we travel to other countries for vacation. those that are in the state are allowed to voice their opinions but if the majority wants a free texas, then they can choose to stay, hunt, pay their taxes and obide by the law. if that is to much, then they can pack up and leave, but if they are paying taxes to the feds, they hunt now and obide by the laws, then why would they really have an issue? you raise very good questions that again would need to be hashed out before declaring independence.
 why is it you think these type of threads cant benifit any1? what if there are others out there that think the same, but dont know where to start but visit or are members and they can spread the word to other like minded people. all we are doing is trying to band together, aint that also what this forum is for, to inform and educate visitors and members of upcoming bills that could turn law and be a danger to our sport.