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« on: March 31, 2012, 07:19:30 am »

I have a new littler of Rots at my house and i was wondering if they would make good hog dogs?  Has anyone every used them or seen them used for such?
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2012, 07:29:42 am »

I have seen a few...good hunt and good catch...but don't know about 1 on 1 with a big boar...didn't have the chance to see it...but I would pick a pup with a  shorter coat for heat tolerance and also the leggier hard body type for speed and that should help with the heat tolerance...
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2012, 07:33:51 am »

One of my big males in the litter had a coat flaw with a white patch on his chest, was thinking of trying him if he didn't sell. 
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2012, 10:27:45 am »

Not worth trying  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2012, 10:54:38 am »

Not worth trying  Wink

x2...but if you like and keep rotts then go for it...

but I would use a bulldog for catch and a good cur dog to strike and bay...
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2012, 10:55:58 am »

Most curs don't make very good hog dogs,why start even more behind. Costs money to raise a pup. Get a pair of pups from hunting stock. Odds of one turning out is better.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2012, 11:02:52 am »

Everything the Germans came up with is superior in every way!! If you do well with rots, you may turn the hog hunting world on its ear!!! Look at jagdterriers, they are like lil hog stopping honey badgers! If a German dog is that good at 20 pounds, imagine how much better a dobermann must be? And then at 150+ well shoot, I kinda hope you don't try rotties, that's almost 10 times the dog that a jags is.

I've thought about it, but don't have the money, you could have jagds fOr regular hogs, Dobermans for strictly the Russian boars and Rots for your catchdogs. Most hogs would be dead and eaten before you get there
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2012, 11:04:42 am »

Don't listen to the rest of these guys, hog hunting is a real competitive world, you should talk to someone like L3 who has experience with large breed hog stoppers.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2012, 09:42:07 pm »

This subject has never come up before Rotts have been around for a long time and if they were good at catching pigs there would be people using them. I use them to catch people and they do real good at that. But I would say if you got a white patch on any pup the whole litter and parents are culls. They are an old breed and that only comes up in Rotts that are not pure blooded. newer breeds have problems like that but not Rotts. No pure blooded Rott will throw anything with a white patch.
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2012, 12:15:01 am »

We had an accidental breeding. Lab x rott. My dad kept a male and female for yard dogs. We play with them in the pen. The male is all bay and the female is all catch. Rotts are lists among the top 10 smartest dogs of all breeds in the world. That may help. Not sure about their build though.ay not be very resistant or rangy.
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2012, 12:20:05 am »

I wouldn't try one myself. Too many others out there that do well already.

That dude just culled your dogs for you. Lol
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2012, 02:50:26 am »

Rotts are german cow dogs if any of u people know that! I would us them but no more room an my kennels  I had a friend that had one hell on wheels when it came to hogs that dog was 1 dog team. rcd all the way but he had a high fence to train him in he even blood trailed a wounded hog that a hunter shot ! So they work just takes time !
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2012, 08:26:05 am »

Rotts are german cow dogs if any of u people know that! I would us them but no more room an my kennels  I had a friend that had one hell on wheels when it came to hogs that dog was 1 dog team. rcd all the way but he had a high fence to train him in he even blood trailed a wounded hog that a hunter shot ! So they work just takes time !

That's what I was saying!!! They ought to be at least 8 times better than a jagd but the bigger the better so some rots may be as much 10 or 12 times better than a jagd. When I think of all the traits that make a jammed up hog dog, the Rots got em all!

Black so it's stealthy at night
Built the same as a Barr hog
Short nose- because scence of smell is way over rated by American hog doggers
German- cuz that's not American
Disproportionately wide chest- to move brush and limbs out of the way.
Propencity to cur out- when the going gets tough the rot runs off lays down and licks his wounds. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2012, 09:06:37 am »

Lol.... Sorry guys but a jag would rip a rotts balls off...anyways a rott was not breed for hogs or the stamina it needs to be a hog stopper....but like I've heard many time it's not the breed it's the dog so give it he'll....
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2012, 09:11:25 am »

Sound like u had a cull before hunting stock is a must when choosing a rot!
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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2012, 09:34:23 am »

Sound like u had a cull before hunting stock is a must when choosing a rot!
Exactly, see, you just need to go find all the old school line bred rots from all those dogmen who have dedicated their lives to hog hunting with rots.

And of course a jagd could bite a rots balls, they are at eye level. That's why rots are probably the best hog dogs ever, they big. And everybody knows the bigger the hog dog the better.
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2012, 10:07:30 am »

Now I see the rest of you are to chicken to respond because you know the futility of arguing against rots. They are the greatest of German dogs and none other hold a candle to them especially not them lil pansy jagds.
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2012, 10:17:54 am »

just to throw this out there, my rotties are not your typical short legged and stockly frame, the are tall and leggy.  They are DNA tested certified AKC registered dogs, I have read all over forums that white patches happen from time to time, it is a flaw and makes them nonelgiable for show, but they are still registered.  I would like to keep the big male I think and give it a whirl, I about a year or so I will update, and give you al a chance to come see him in action  Wink
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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2012, 10:58:06 am »

Try him out, I bet he will work for you. If you decide you don't want him you can send him my way lol good luck man
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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2012, 01:00:59 pm »

just to throw this out there, my rotties are not your typical short legged and stockly frame, the are tall and leggy.  They are DNA tested certified AKC registered dogs, I have read all over forums that white patches happen from time to time, it is a flaw and makes them nonelgiable for show, but they are still registered.  I would like to keep the big male I think and give it a whirl, I about a year or so I will update, and give you al a chance to come see him in action  Wink

back in the 1970's I raised a few litters of the heavier boned dobermans and they also would throw a pup every now and then with a white patch of their chest...that patch tends to get smaller as they get older...
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