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« on: April 11, 2009, 06:31:32 am »

Who knows of someone breeding good dogo's ? I have heard too many stories of dogo's baying and not catching worth a darn. Does anyone breed a REAL dogo that isn't dog aggressive and catches like a crocodile ? Anyhelp would be appreciated.           Lee
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2009, 10:52:47 am »

few and far between from what i've found.  i've sent Ladogos a few PM's to see if he breeds but never got a response Huh?  i know he uses the PPC dogos (bred in Denmark).  i don't know how often they have pups for sale and how much it runs for the dog and shipping.  i've been looking for a pretty good while.  i haven't seen pure dogos from anything proven yet.  i've been lookin around on dogo.org but can't post anything up yet because i haven't been approved by the admin over there yet. 

good luck on your search.  i've been lookin for about 3 months now.  you'll see guys selling them every now and then but a lot i've seen males have had  male dog aggression problems or aren't catching real solid. from what i've read it's better to try and get them as a pup and raise them up with other  male dogs.  or try and find a reputable breeder but there isn't that many from what i've found and the pups go quickly.   
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2009, 11:29:12 am »

hoghunterdfw just got a ppc dogo from denmark about a month ago and it is PURE catch saw it on a 250lb this wkend he is hog crazy and needs a break stick he is going to breed it within the year if his female pup catches as well. I would send him a pm he knows of some pups on the ground now that give you a contract guaranteed to catch or your money back and is freinds with a guy in lousiana that has more of those ppc dogos like 4-5 he may part with one. .02
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2009, 01:37:28 pm »

i know a guy in alvin tx that has a stud that he uses as his catch dog. he will be having some dogo/plott pups soon. he charges 500 for stud service. i wouldnt pay that much for stud service, but thats me
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2009, 11:42:09 am »

Hi, we bred marvins  dogs - we would be happy to send more dogos out to hunters, the only thing is the shipping costs from here. Therefore we reduce the price when hunters ask for a pup.

We have bitch studded now.
The father is also father to Marvins Ziggy and the mum is halfsister to Marvins Niko and Jane.

Want to know more, drop us a email,

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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2009, 08:59:42 am »

I too have a bitch that was just bred.  The litter will most likely be born in FL, and I have a couple still available.  The mothers littermate is a hunter and the fathers littermate is also a hunter.  Neither parent has been tested on boar due to their location, but will be tested in the near future.  I guarantee the dogs will hunt, or I will take them back and provide you with another dog.  They will most likely be thick in the bone, and well balanced.  As for dog aggression, neither of them has ever shown unprovoked aggression, actually the mother got "jumped" by a few dogs and only bit back to stop them, once the other dogs were pulled away from her, she just went on about her business.  The father just moved into a home next to a dominant Rottie and has not approched the fence in a menacing manner, but will fight back.  If you visit my site the parents will be Apache de los Medanos and Abuelita de la Historia.  The littermates that I was talking about are Achilles de la Historia(owned by Mark Duncan) and Tomillo de los Medanos (aka Sancho owned by Los Cazadores Dogos).  As for price, hunting/pet home is $1000 plus shipping, but I may be able to help with shipping since one is already going to Texas. 

Yeah the price is going to be a bit higher than a purely hunting breeder, and if you're interested in the why, just let me know and I'll explain.

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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 09:27:33 am »

I'm interested in why the price is what it is, particularly since neither the sire nor dam are woods dogs.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2009, 03:36:00 pm »

I don't know if its best to reply here, so if its not the board can delete it and I will email....

The parents are all health tested and all of the puppies will be health tested.  All of the dogs that I own and breed are also registered with the most reputable registry in the world.  I will also repeat that I guarantee the dogs will do what they are bred for, and thats more than what people with "proven" parents do.  I also offer a health guarantee.  Overall I stand behind everything I produce, and will be there every step of the way to offer any help I can.

All pups are raised inside the house, microchipped, papered.  And the parents are from some of the best bloodlines in the world.

I hope no one is taking offense to the difference in price, and I am more than willing to offer my justification.  Then there is always the option to buy from someone else.  I am not sure whether or not the less expensive dogos fit all of the above criteria, but unless I sell every single pup I asure you there isn't any profit in there.

I am actually curious to know how it can be affordable to sell pups any cheaper.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2009, 10:52:12 pm »

Dogo pups that are: From proven lines, registered, health tested, hearing tested, and of top quality, should cost $1,000 and up.


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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2009, 08:50:36 am »

I'm interested in why the price is what it is, particularly since neither the sire nor dam are woods dogs.

this may have a little something to do with it..... taken from dogo.org

Dogo Argentino Club of America
CODE OF ETHICS
All breeders are encouraged to evolve specific breeding plans .....

The breeder will furnish with each pup a signed registration application, a three generation (minimum) pedigree, proof of a hearing test, and a written health record. If the pup is being sold as a companion the breeder will furnish a written Spay/Neuter Agreement. Both buyer and seller will hold a signed copy of the agreement. The breeder MUST fill in the information requested on the back of the Registration Application.


Sale price of the pups will be based on quality and all breeders will uphold the value of the breed by maintaining the minimum price acceptable in their immediate area for all pups of a breedable, registerable, showable, healthy quality. DOGOS ARGENTINOS WILL NOT BE OFFERED TO KNOWN PUPPY MILLS.

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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2009, 12:08:08 pm »

Dogo pups that are: From proven lines, registered, health tested, hearing tested, and of top quality, should cost $1,000 and up.


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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2009, 02:48:29 pm »

Ok, I have to ask.... what is the big draw for dogos?? What do they have that American Bulldogs do not?? Besides twice the price (at least). I have an AB male that you would be hard pressed to improve on. My hunting buddy has an AB female the same way. Im not trying to start a riot or anything, I would just like for someone to explain to me what is so much better about them.
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2009, 03:01:15 pm »

http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=2134.0

http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=3202.0


Lot's of debate about Dogos and how they are used vs. how they were bred to be used.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2009, 03:12:20 pm »

I saw all of that, I guess I just dont get it. Even if you spend the money to get one of the "good" ones, is what you end up with that much better than an AB?? and if they are, what do they do better??
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2009, 03:17:27 pm »

Beats me.   My understanding is that a DOGO was originally bred to be used as a pack dog, and is now being used as a "catch dog" 

I can't see the difference in a "good" dogo vs a "good" hybrid ab, except the price myself.

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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2009, 03:25:05 pm »

I'm really not saying one is better than another. I dont know enough about Dogos to make a judgement. I dont even know that I'm comparing apples to apples. Just looking for justification of the huge price tag that comes along with the dogos. I am not saying they are not worth it. I would just like for someone somewhere to tell me why they are. People are paying it so someone thinks they are worth it.
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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2009, 03:35:43 pm »

Why the cost?  Supply and demand.

There are not many breeders of Dogos' that are breeding all "proven" hunting dogos. There are alot of breeders that have show dogs that they "test" and breed. So, Its just simple supply and demand.

No one ever said they were better than anything else. I have never seen anyone trying to talk ya'll into buying/hunting one. If you are happy with your AB or Pit, great. We all use dogs that work for us in our area and thats the way it should be.

I like the Dogo myself and I bought one, and I am very glad I did. She has caught every hog she has seen since she was 6 months old. The things that I like about the Dogo are: raw speed, nose, size, and the fact that they can/will hunt on there own.

There are lots of breeds of dogs just like there are lots of breeds of horses, and cattle. I like to run the cattle that work in my country, and ride the horses that let me do my job the best , and hunt the dogs that work the best in my area. The Dogo fits my country and way of hunting very well.

Its just like the Horse vs Mule argument.....you might understand that, each has its place but neither is "better" than the other. Pick the animal that does the job the best for "you".

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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2009, 03:45:53 pm »

I'm seriously not trying to ruffle anyones feathers. just trying to learn a little something. I get the whole supply and demand thing. Cost of a dog means nothing to me. If its what I want I will pay what it takes to get it. Im just trying to get the whole attraction to dogos. I would like to hunt with a really good dogo some day. It must be a sight to behold
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2009, 04:43:40 pm »

There's not much to add to what's been said from the above posts.  I would like to emphasize what I feel is the most prominent difference between a well bred AB and a well bred dogo, and that's nose and in turn stamina.  Muzzle length has been what I would say the detriment to the AB. If hunted the way they are bred to be hunted, and obviously this differs for terrain and such, but in my opinion you should be able to drop a few dogos on the ground and catch boar with out any other dogs. That's obviously not always going to be the best for every hunter, but those that aspire to hunt with one breed, they are the ones that want a dogo. 

Plus if you have a mountain lion problem on your ranch it wouldn't hurt to have a dog that can rid you of that.

I don't know about the others here but I love talking dogo, even if there is opposition. How can you learn about anything without asking and debating.
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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2009, 05:00:35 pm »

ive always wanted to know the same question muleman. can dogos get out and find and catch their own hog?? and also are they just kind of a rare dog? dont know much about dogos but i am very intersted in learning as much as possible
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