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« on: May 09, 2012, 01:21:01 am »

Has anybody ever heard of a dog being killed by fleas? Is it even possible? I just lost one of my best dogs and can't figure out what got him, but when I picked him up to bury him the fleas were bouncing off him n there were thousands of them all around him. This was a healthy dog and I have been spraying Bayer tree and shrub as well as a chemical called demon trying to knock the fleas out but apparently it hasn't been working. I just dont know what to do. Thanks in advance
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2012, 01:34:57 am »

Sry for ur loss man. I'm sure it is possible that fleas could be a cause for it because the cause the dog to become anemic but u normally will notice signs of it like the dog being real sluggish not very active so on I recently had a bad flea problem and it got one of my bulldogs really run down I just got some stuff called tellstar it is supposed to be awesome and kills everything
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 07:17:53 am »

 not really the same, but similar. i know skeeter can kill a moose. in alaska the skeeter in the summer time are so terrible they have killed wildlife in the matter of hours. i dont see why fleas couldnt do it to a dog.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 10:12:40 am »

My dad told me his first dog got ate up overnight by sand fleas n he had to put em down

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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 11:52:13 am »

yes they can and will . it's called flea enemia . you have a serious problem and need to take action . loose the bayer and dip your dogs in permethrin 10% according to the dog dip instructions on the label then get you some  MARTINS I.G. REGULATOR  and mix it in a sprayer with permethrin 10% and spray your kennels and a good 15 foot perimiter around the kennels . you are going to have to break the hatching cycle of the fleas before you will ever get the problem in check . that's what the martins does it steralizes the adult fleas and all hatching eggs that are coming , it also works the same on flies and knats will help with ticks also but isn't labeled as such . you my friend need to get busy in a hurry . i would check all the other dogs and start them on anti-biotics and b-12 . good luck without using an i.g. regulator you will be waisting your time and money .
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 03:46:08 pm »

Halfbreed I just went to the co-op and picked up some of the Martin I.G. regulator as well as some Bifen I/T, the lady told me to mix it 1oz bifen 1 oz regulator and a gallon of water then spray, I have some permethrin 10% at home and have been dipping them in it but I guess I was just pissin on a bonfire without the right chemicals on the ground
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2012, 05:02:24 pm »

Demon is a fantastic product, but only when used inside because it leaves a residue and that is what kills the fleas. Being on dirt and getting rained on dogs using the restroom on it and then being washed out as it would. E fine in a kennel will defeat the purpose of spraying it
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 08:50:42 pm »

I agree with halfbreed...

flea anemia can certaily kill a dog.....
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 12:56:47 am »

I dont know about fleas but i almost lost my best dog last  year about this time due to a tick born infection, Now i try and keep my treatments a little closer together. sorry for ur loss..
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2012, 03:07:18 pm »

Well it's been four days since I've sprayed the yard with the martins regulator, bifen  i/t and permethrin mixture and pulled the dogs outta their kennels and put them in the stock trailer and the fleas are still ridiculous. I can't even get near the kennels without getting covered in fleas. I'm to the point now of walking through the yard with a pear burner and roasting every one of the little devils then spraying diesel afterwards
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2012, 08:01:47 pm »

just keep at em stinky you have a bad problem that won't be solved over night . it rained here at the house pretty good if you got rain do it spray again .  the permethrin will kill the adults but not the eggs  and the martins wont kill the eggs just steralize the larva so they won't reproduce . you will have to spray often to finally see the results . what you have is thousands of eggs hatching daily . just give em hell till you don't see any more the martins will work , i've used it for years now . thats what i didn't like about people being told to use the bayer , they thought that was all they was to it and forgot about spraying the yard and kennels and doing a prevention at the starting of spring . we didn't have a winter this year wich made the fleas super bad .
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2012, 08:16:31 pm »

On a side note....this is a GREAT REASON for the internet.  I really like to see someone sharing and experience in a positive way.  I hope Hlafbreed recommendation works out for you.  This is one of those post were "saving".
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2012, 01:36:57 pm »

Flea anemia...or if your putting the wrong bayer on him...that is a possibility as well. I had two dogs anemic and been really sick. Vet cannot figure out source but I was putting bayer on all of them. That was the known common link to all my dogs. I figured out it was the wrong Bayer product. I have since quit. Vet has been pulling blood from my pits for blood transfusions.

To be on the safe side I am going to reccomended products for dogs.
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2012, 01:48:18 pm »

Halfbreed I just went to the co-op and picked up some of the Martin I.G. regulator as well as some Bifen I/T, the lady told me to mix it 1oz bifen 1 oz regulator and a gallon of water then spray, I have some permethrin 10% at home and have been dipping them in it but I guess I was just pissin on a bonfire without the right chemicals on the ground

If you keep spraying and dipping the dogs without breaking the cycle the fleas will build an immunity to the poisons...then it will be hard to stop them...enforcer is premixed in a gallon and it works pretty good. I used to spray this in the house and in the doghouses and where the dogs hung out...kills fleas in a couple of days but will make the larvae and fleas sterile...but Orthomax tree and shrub has been doing it for my dogs...I just make sure to use enough to kill them all so that they will not build an immunity...not saying they won't at some point in time but...lets see...

Halfbreed is right on...
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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2012, 08:24:04 pm »

Previously I was spraying the yard with bayer tree and shrub and dipping the dogs with permethrin 10%. I wasn't actually putting the bayer on the dogs as I wasn't sure what it would do to their kidneys and liver. I'm going to continue spraying with the martins regulator and permethrin it seems to be working. Maybe switching back and forth to the enforcer will help keep the little devils from getting immune. Rueben is the orthomax tree and shrub a granule or liquid? How should i put it out? I need to get my buddy over here and finish welding up these dang elevated kennels we've been workin on for a few months now, I think getting them up off the ground will help as well.
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2012, 09:10:52 pm »

StinkyDog...I use ortho max tree and shrub on my dogs....but haven't used in in at least 6 months or so because the dogs are still free of fleas...I use the max because it has 1.47 percent active ingredient as compared to others with .75%...just make sure it does not have the fertilizer in it....TSC sells a no name brand for 1/2 the price...back when I was first told about it I asked how much to use and most folks gave me different amounts to use on the dogs...I found ortho max and started using it because it is double strength... I also worked out the formula based off of one of those high dollar flea killer products that they sell for a lot of money... based off of that it will take about 13 to 15 cc's or mils on the dog...rub it in between the shoulders...I rub some in the arm pits and down the dogs back line...bayer tree and shrub can be bought in gallon containers for about 60 or so dollars and it is the 1.47 percent at tsc...but look at the quart size in the no name brand and compare prices...I would read the directions and either double or triple what it says for normal yard use...I would spray it in the living quarters and where the dogs hang out...
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2012, 09:22:25 pm »

Alright Reuben I'll try that on the next round of spraying that I do. I really appreciate everybody's help and input on this subject. It really sucks losing a dog especially the way I did, and if it wouldn't have been for you guys I probably woulda been burying my whole pack by now. So for that I just want to say thanks for sharing your knowledge and helping a younger hunter out.
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« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2012, 07:20:37 pm »

i dont know bayer tree and shrub has always worked for us
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2012, 07:32:24 pm »

 pull your dogs out and use the diesel and set fire to it if possible, if not possible, the diesel should do the trick by smothering the adults, larva and eggs. if that works, then start using something new to control it.
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