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« Reply #80 on: April 05, 2013, 08:59:44 am »

My dogs are not culls. My Dogos are bred from some of the best bloodlines you can get. And they do what I need them to do. Which is to be a rcd. But I'm not going to sit here and defend my dogs to someone who has never hunted with them.


This right here, ladies and gentlemen, is why there are so many number 2 eatin Dogos. Mediocrity...

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« Reply #81 on: April 05, 2013, 09:15:09 am »

My dogs are not culls. My Dogos are bred from some of the best bloodlines you can get. And they do what I need them to do. Which is to be a rcd. But I'm not going to sit here and defend my dogs to someone who has never hunted with them.

Blood lines only say what a dog SHOULD be, they don't make a dog. The dog has to do that on its own.

Lets say someone reads the breed standard and decides they want a Dogo, because they will find and catch hogs on their own. They come to you and buy some of your dogs. They go to the woods and the dogs never find a hog, ever. Do you think that person is gonna turn around and talk about how good the Dogo is? Hell no, if they have any balls, their gonna step up, cull the dogs and cut their losses, then probably never say a good word about a Dogo the rest of their life.

Tell me this, if the Doc who created this breed, wanted dogs that found hogs, do you think he would have bred your dogs?

Let me give you a hint, your dogs don't find hogs, so the answer is No!

This right here, ladies and gentlemen, is why there are so many number 2 eatin Dogos. Mediocrity...
here is my back ground...ive never hunted with dogs..never hunted pigs...untill i got a dogo..he does hunt AND catches.by himself..i dont see the point in culling a dogo because thay dont hunt as well as another...some people want a dogo for a pet...actually out of my CHUYS litter he is the only one who hunts..and culling needs to be for generations to weed out defects. GENERATIONS... years of good culling with several dogs of great blood (proven)  and i just dont see that happining...in most cases but i do feel that most rcd here on this board do a great job. they have the experience and the handler. ive seen it. this is the same as cat vs. bmc.......cant we all get along. lol;D;D

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« Reply #82 on: April 05, 2013, 09:21:32 am »

or....lets go hunt. im willing, any one else...

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« Reply #83 on: April 05, 2013, 06:52:01 pm »

I usually go a few times a week. Come on up.
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« Reply #84 on: April 05, 2013, 07:10:03 pm »

They have an outrageous price because not every back yard breeder has them yet. Unlike every other person breeding pits

Ya but %99 of pits will catch odds with dogos from what I've read not as high as pits. But because there's fewer dogos theyre more valuable?
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« Reply #85 on: April 05, 2013, 09:01:46 pm »

I've decided to breed my own version of Dogo's. Ain't no way I'm paying a grand for a dog that may catch. I think I can breed up a 65-75lb dog that will hunt and catch.
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« Reply #86 on: April 06, 2013, 09:01:58 am »

My dogs are not culls. My Dogos are bred from some of the best bloodlines you can get. And they do what I need them to do. Which is to be a rcd. But I'm not going to sit here and defend my dogs to someone who has never hunted with them.

Blood lines only say what a dog SHOULD be, they don't make a dog. The dog has to do that on its own.

Lets say someone reads the breed standard and decides they want a Dogo, because they will find and catch hogs on their own. They come to you and buy some of your dogs. They go to the woods and the dogs never find a hog, ever. Do you think that person is gonna turn around and talk about how good the Dogo is? Hell no, if they have any balls, their gonna step up, cull the dogs and cut their losses, then probably never say a good word about a Dogo the rest of their life.

Tell me this, if the Doc who created this breed, wanted dogs that found hogs, do you think he would have bred your dogs?

Let me give you a hint, your dogs don't find hogs, so the answer is No!

This right here, ladies and gentlemen, is why there are so many number 2 eatin Dogos. Mediocrity...

Dodgegirl, I have had my fun in the past poking at dogo owners, including you. I believe you know that I have not and do not mean any disrespect to you or other dogo owners, as we have poked at each other back and forth about dogs in general for a while, I do and have enjoyed reading the posts about your dogs and wish you the best of luck. If I were in your shoes I would let  these posts be water off a ducks back, if you like the dogs then hunt them, BUT I will have to say that what I have highlighted is some dang good advice (it doesn't really matter at the end of the day who says what about your dogs but if you want to be the best you gotta breed the best), not just for you but for anyone looking to breed any breed of dogs for the better, stay true to the line mam and you will be in high cotton!
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« Reply #87 on: April 06, 2013, 02:22:43 pm »

L3 outdoors.... My buddy bought a pup from Daniel casas... She was out of ammo and Harely..that would make it 1/2 great Dane 1/4 pit 1/4 bmc is what Daniel said... He breed her to a full ybmc... this is what we have now 5/8 bmc 1/4 great Dane 1/8 pit.... Should shut a hog down...
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« Reply #88 on: April 06, 2013, 02:55:14 pm »

I usually go a few times a week. Come on up.
cool I would like that verry much. how do you typically hunt?

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« Reply #89 on: April 06, 2013, 03:19:23 pm »

I'd like to try a mastiff/dane cross... Allot of Aussie hunters use them and they do great as finders holders type dogs.. anyone on here use them or have tried them?
i tried to introduce my wifes cane corso to a pig. mr. mason told me to take him away,let him be a puppy, then bring him back...he died from a weird autoimmune disease. he was one of the most beautiful dogs ever seen. and he would go out of his way to go look for my kids. my wife still tears up looking at pictures of him

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« Reply #90 on: April 07, 2013, 12:52:57 pm »

kinda sounds like these  type  dogs never miss  or  get out run hahahaha  we all get out run ......  even  L 3  in the tv shows i seen got out run lost hogs and used another find baydog to find em .....  if you just run catchdogs i call em   you'll get em killed perty regular  if they find very far off or all cut up  not to mention heat stroked  .......  most peoples baydogs catch small hogs 80 pounds like a strait out bulldog  ....   no wonder the hogs  is  takeing over ..... if you just want to kill em  hunt one easy baydog that want run one  far  and  carry  you a  shotgun loaded with buckshot  i bet  sometimes  you kill  a  truck load at a time ....i just  hunt  cause  i like  too  .....  but  i could make  em scarce  if  i wanted  too ...
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« Reply #91 on: April 07, 2013, 01:40:58 pm »

Blah, Blah, Blah.... Too many variables to argue over RCD's.

1st you have to agree on a solid definition of a Running Catch Dog, that unanimously everybody can agree on to even start this arguement. Since everyones definition is different then you will never have a solid answer. ... Now why is everyones opinion different you ask?

We hunt different terrains and different hogs.

South Ga, a RCD is any Breed of dog that will hunt his/her own hogs, will not let out a single bark, and will catch. Period. What works good, different terrain requires different dogs. It all boils down to what produces best for you.

So, L3 by YOUR stated def of RCD's, I have 1
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« Reply #92 on: April 07, 2013, 04:55:44 pm »

Here in middle Georgia a dog that finds and catches any hog is just straight catch strike dog. A RCD is a dog that runs loose and catches versus a walkin catch dog.
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« Reply #93 on: April 07, 2013, 07:37:19 pm »

See the difference in 2 parts of the same state. My point exactly
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« Reply #94 on: April 08, 2013, 12:14:45 pm »

Blah, Blah, Blah.... Too many variables to argue over RCD's.

1st you have to agree on a solid definition of a Running Catch Dog, that unanimously everybody can agree on to even start this arguement. Since everyones definition is different then you will never have a solid answer. ... Now why is everyones opinion different you ask?

We hunt different terrains and different hogs.

South Ga, a RCD is any Breed of dog that will hunt his/her own hogs, will not let out a single bark, and will catch. Period. What works good, different terrain requires different dogs. It all boils down to what produces best for you.

So, L3 by YOUR stated def of RCD's, I have 1
These days we don't even call em RCDs anymore. There's too much confusion with exactly what kind of dog we're talking about. It's hard enough getting ppl to except the fact that our dogs do what we say they do. We just call em Finder/holders or OneOuts . A dog only gets called a OneOut in our yard if it can be expected to hold any pig it may come accross. Usually I sell a dog cause its not fitting the bill, not meeting expectations, or not suitable for breeding, I tell the buyer what they're getting they try to talk me down on price in disbelief. So to get the dog gone and in a hunting home I might take a little less. About a week or two later I get a call stateing exactly what I said the dog would do and do I want sell some more of my dogs. Mine and L3s dogs find and catch pigs and live to do it every hunt. Plain and simple. Your dog has to have big b.lls and so does the man handling them to trust they're not gona die. If a dog in my pack bays it get culled. Meaning it gets sent down the road to someone else that can use it.
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« Reply #95 on: April 08, 2013, 06:14:27 pm »

Blah, Blah, Blah.... Too many variables to argue over RCD's.

1st you have to agree on a solid definition of a Running Catch Dog, that unanimously everybody can agree on to even start this arguement. Since everyones definition is different then you will never have a solid answer. ... Now why is everyones opinion different you ask?

We hunt different terrains and different hogs.

South Ga, a RCD is any Breed of dog that will hunt his/her own hogs, will not let out a single bark, and will catch. Period. What works good, different terrain requires different dogs. It all boils down to what produces best for you.

So, L3 by YOUR stated def of RCD's, I have 1
Usually I sell a dog cause its not fitting the bill, not meeting expectations, or not suitable for breeding, I tell the buyer what they're getting they try to talk me down on price in disbelief.

Just so I'm clear here, did you just say you sell your culls?
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« Reply #96 on: April 08, 2013, 06:18:51 pm »

Ones persons culls is anothers best dog lol
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« Reply #97 on: April 08, 2013, 06:21:01 pm »

Ones persons culls is anothers best dog lol

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« Reply #98 on: April 08, 2013, 06:23:58 pm »

What cut gear you runnin?

And yes, I sell my culls.

1. Registered Bluetick Gyp-1yr old    Sold for $100 to coonhunter for breedingand papers. Hog broke her young.
2. Blue nose Pit- 1yr Old                 Sold for $100 To another hog hunter Who leads in. I expect mine to hunt as well not just a lead in.
3. Catahoula- 6 months old             Sold for $200 to fellow Hog hunter. Would not do squat in bay pen, littermates love a hog made her look dumb. She was merle with Glass eyes.

 Looks sold her. But i did clarify to buyer how she does in pen even gave her a test drive in my pen to prove it. Why? Let me guess you just shoot your culls? Why not try to make money off of them. If your honest about the dog before hand and buyer still wants then why should you deny??
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« Reply #99 on: April 08, 2013, 06:31:38 pm »

Sorry Mrs Lousiana, I thought Centex Asked me what i did with my culls sarcastically, i was skimmin and thats what i get lol sorry.
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