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Author Topic: rough dogs making hogs break. need help  (Read 4270 times)
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« on: June 15, 2012, 12:06:14 am »

hey guys i need some suggestions. i have a hog he is my main hunting dog and by far my favorite but he is just to damn rough a 450 lb bar hog with 3 inch cutters damn near cut his throught with a cut collar on because he tried to catch it he is just a cur dog and i like the fact that i know its a good size hog if he is not caught when i get there and the fact he will catch with a bull dog and help it out but i really want him to back up. need help idk what to do!!!
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2012, 12:41:22 am »

im confused maybe its the bud light talkin but from what i just read you have a hog as a main dog thats 450 pushers and has knives like a jap chef.... if you have a rough DOG then its best to vest him up and let him learn
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2012, 01:06:02 am »

My experience has been that they will either learn to back up (once they have been cut a few times) or they don't last too long.
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2012, 01:10:52 am »

haha my bad guys all i was trying to say i have a really rough cur dog he tried to catch a 450 pound lb bar hog and it almost cut his throat he has been cut multiple times since then and he just wont back up a couple weeks ago me and a freind of mine eased up to a bay and turned the bull dog loose my cur dog saw her comin and caught befor she got there
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2012, 01:13:01 am »

he just likes what he does, get a vest from wildboar usa and keep him in the woods. i also would recommend getting a first aid kit and know how to use it
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2012, 01:21:25 am »

yea i got all that stuff after the first time he got cut the first time but he wont hunt with a vest on i do run a cut collar on him
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2012, 01:23:41 am »

if hes as rough as you say and you are around big pigs like you say i would run a vest on him.
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2012, 01:25:45 am »

yea
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2012, 01:29:37 am »

but do you think him bein rough is breaking bays?
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2012, 01:31:34 am »

Maybe try a bib, he is what he is. Maybe find one or two more just like him, if you like that style of hunting.
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2012, 01:31:52 am »

could be. if hes as catchy as you say use him as a cd and get some loose dogs Wink
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2012, 01:32:15 am »

If he's Gritty, If he won't hunt with a vest, If he keeps Busting up the Bay tryna catch and u still want to keep him as ur lead dog I personally would Build my pack around him, which means more gritty dogs that's gonna jump on with him when he catches.... But that's jmo.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2012, 01:40:26 am »

anything under 200 i dont turn a bull dog loose i just let him catch it but i dont trust him to hold anything bigger than that. and yea i got a little gyp that is just like him. i kind of like it honestly because i know if i get there and the hog aint caught than its got some size to it. i might try one of those bikini bay vest
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2012, 06:46:55 am »

anything under 200 i dont turn a bull dog loose i just let him catch it but i dont trust him to hold anything bigger than that. and yea i got a little gyp that is just like him. i kind of like it honestly because i know if i get there and the hog aint caught than its got some size to it. i might try one of those bikini bay vest

Are they both on the ground when he goes to catching? Will he catch if he is the only dog on the ground?
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2012, 06:56:51 am »

Run 4 rough dogs hog should be streched out when you get there
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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2012, 07:43:41 am »

Make him live in his vest in his kennel for a week or so then try to hunt him with it on. I had one just like him miss that old dog.
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2012, 08:38:00 am »

If he's Gritty, If he won't hunt with a vest, If he keeps Busting up the Bay tryna catch and u still want to keep him as ur lead dog I personally would Build my pack around him, which means more gritty dogs that's gonna jump on with him when he catches.... But that's jmo.
X2 if you want him build your pack too match you will catch almost everything that way to
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2012, 09:09:07 am »

I have a dog that was just like that it took him 4 years and around 60 cuts for him to finally figure out he ain't got to catch everything, the other day I witnessed him baying a Lil 90lb boar I think he's tired of being cut and has learned the ways to bad it took him so long and so many staples lol
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2012, 09:39:48 am »

he wont catch if hes by himself. i think yall are right im gonna get a couple more gritty dogs and just use a bull dog for back up lol
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2012, 02:24:29 pm »

Sounds like an old poacher type cur dog. Dont need a bulldog with a pair of these dogs if they work a hog correctly.

If he is getting gritty and biting then letting go over and over while baying....you bet he is a bay buster.
Stand back and watch him baying to determine if this is the problem.
If you want to attempt getting him rougher ..walk him in and turn him loose with your catch dog while vested. Wont take long for him to be almost straight catch if he has any metal to him.

I have had a bit of success on getting them to bay more....let him bay at the house for an extended amount of time on a hog he cannot catch...cage, wire, use a muzzle ect.  After continued practice it seems to be a mental thing.  Sometimes it works and sometimes not. All depends on how much he means to ya.

If he is busting bays and he isn't a big deal..its just easier to put dirt on his head and get one that works the way you want.
Good luck.
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