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Peachcreek
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« on: June 28, 2012, 10:14:00 pm » |
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I read all the time on here about game bred pits can someone educate me as to what constitutes a "game bred" dog now days? When was fighting outlawed? and how long after people stop fighting their stock does a person KNOW their stock is still "game bred"? it seems like if fighting was outlawed years ago there are a bunch of watered down dogs by now. this is not an attack on any one person I have just seen the term used allot lately. Is it like saying any ole yeller dog is a foundation bred dog?  |
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boarboy
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2012, 10:26:06 pm » |
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im guessin the blood line started as a game bred line and from the dogs ive seen on this forum im not gonna tell em different lol guess the only way to test a "game" bred dog now is with a big ole boar hog
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cward
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012, 10:53:02 pm » |
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Speeding is illegal and if you don't get caught speeding then you don't get a ticket. Fighting roosters is illegal but you see them tied everywhere in yards you really think people just like having there chicken on a chain. Most of these game breed dogs I know of are still being tested somewhere  we have to be real careful as we run down fighters as they see nothing wrong with it. Just as we see nothing wrong with what we do. |
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boarboy
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2012, 10:59:33 pm » |
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i guess i could kind of see that point of view as well i not saying im for fighting dogs because im very against it but we send em in the fight hogs or thats what they figure they are doing i guess
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Peachcreek
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012, 11:03:27 pm » |
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i guess i just assumed after Michael Vick got busted everyone stopped |
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T-Bob Parker
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 11:06:59 pm » |
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Speeding is illegal and if you don't get caught speeding then you don't get a ticket. Fighting roosters is illegal but you see them tied everywhere in yards you really think people just like having there chicken on a chain. Yup, there's lots of chicken chokers down here by me and I garuntee they don't just choke them chickens for the hell of it.  Hahahahahha I won't claim to have any knowledge of any dogs used in blood sport, BUT do any of y'all REALLY believe a hog is an adequate test of gameness in a real game dog? |
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 11:10:06 pm » |
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Speeding is illegal and if you don't get caught speeding then you don't get a ticket. Fighting roosters is illegal but you see them tied everywhere in yards you really think people just like having there chicken on a chain. Most of these game breed dogs I know of are still being tested somewhere we have to be real careful as we run down fighters as they see nothing wrong with it. Just as we see nothing wrong with what we do. Chance.....I think your half azz crazy sometimes but that's about as spot on as it could be said .... |
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boarboy
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2012, 11:17:07 pm » |
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haha if a hog aint let em catch a big ole bull on the ear
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T-Bob Parker
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2012, 11:26:42 pm » |
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That's bite and heart for sure but it's my perceived understanding that game is different. The desire to scratch back time and time again.
Of I'm wrong or off base can one of y'all (former) pit Men explain it correctly please.
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boarboy
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2012, 11:39:42 pm » |
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no i think your right about game bein even if they are beat almost to death they are still fightin back and will continue to do so until they die. but ive know a little bull dog that got slung off cut down caught again and stayed caught gettin cut the whole time and held on until the hog was legged i guessed thats considered heart though good bull dog that was the last hog she ever caught
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I won't claim to have any knowledge of any dogs used in blood sport, BUT do any of y'all REALLY believe a hog is an adequate test of gameness in a real game dog?
No. A lot of bulldogs that are NOT game will catch a hog. But IF that same dog got off his chain on a 95 degree day out in the sun and just so happened to run into another bulldog and they tied up for 30-45 minutes , 99% of them will quit. And a lot of gamedogs would too. "Gamebred" don't mean game. |
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Speeding is illegal and if you don't get caught speeding then you don't get a ticket. Fighting roosters is illegal but you see them tied everywhere in yards you really think people just like having there chicken on a chain. I won't claim to have any knowledge of any dogs used in blood sport, BUT do any of y'all REALLY believe a hog is an adequate test of gameness in a real game dog? I just got to laugh when I see post on here that think and I don't give a damn if the boar hog is 350 lbs with 3 inch teeth ! This boar hog ain't gonna test number 2 when it comes to a Truly Combat bred Pit Bull . Gameness is not about how fast you can get it done but how long you are willing to stay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whats a hog gonna do test a bulldog for 5 mins till you can get there and leg the hog ? Some of the rankess number 2 bulldogs can stay that long and catch a hog thats what people dont understand a Rank ass peice of donkey Dung can stay five mins and catch the biggest baddest boar . Put him in a [ ] and go 3 1/2 hours in 90 degree heat then you got yourself a real true bulldog !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I guess the reason I used the term in my post because it was the term the drunk pilled out indian that sold me the dog used when I bought the dog , he said he was from fighting stock , I told him we dont fight here , we hunt , he caught like a train so I bought him , I dont fight dogs and now that I realize the meaning of the term I aploligize, I luv my dogs and have a Bad A$$ CATCH DOG THE COLOR RED and hes game if you wana go hunting LMAO
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I agree that using the APBT on a hog is not way of testing gameness. I see the term thrown around too loosely on other threads and thats fine when referring to other breeds and thats fine, lets just confuse the term. Also, I do agree with the hot temps. statement, when you couple that heat with the heating up of the dog during that performance, well, you have a recipe for a dog quitting. The heat just brings the quitting out a lot faster,Im sure that the 99% comment was used as an example and not correct figures but if not 99 percent is a very high percentage of quitters,..lol if that was true, I consider the quality of dogs being used, the conditioning program, and the owner/conditioner.
I won't claim to have any knowledge of any dogs used in blood sport, BUT do any of y'all REALLY believe a hog is an adequate test of gameness in a real game dog?
No. A lot of bulldogs that are NOT game will catch a hog. But IF that same dog got off his chain on a 95 degree day out in the sun and just so happened to run into another bulldog and they tied up for 30-45 minutes , 99% of them will quit. And a lot of gamedogs would too. "Gamebred" don't mean game. Speeding is illegal and if you don't get caught speeding then you don't get a ticket. Fighting roosters is illegal but you see them tied everywhere in yards you really think people just like having there chicken on a chain. Most of these game breed dogs I know of are still being tested somewhere we have to be real careful as we run down fighters as they see nothing wrong with it. Just as we see nothing wrong with what we do. Speeding is illegal and if you don't get caught speeding then you don't get a ticket. Fighting roosters is illegal but you see them tied everywhere in yards you really think people just like having there chicken on a chain. I won't claim to have any knowledge of any dogs used in blood sport, BUT do any of y'all REALLY believe a hog is an adequate test of gameness in a real game dog? I just got to laugh when I see post on here that think and I don't give a damn if the boar hog is 350 lbs with 3 inch teeth ! This boar hog ain't gonna test number 2 when it comes to a Truly Combat bred Pit Bull . Gameness is not about how fast you can get it done but how long you are willing to stay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whats a hog gonna do test a bulldog for 5 mins till you can get there and leg the hog ? Some of the rankess number 2 bulldogs can stay that long and catch a hog thats what people dont understand a Rank ass peice of donkey Dung can stay five mins and catch the biggest baddest boar . Put him in a [ ] and go 3 1/2 hours in 90 degree heat then you got yourself a real true bulldog !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Speeding is illegal and if you don't get caught speeding then you don't get a ticket. Fighting roosters is illegal but you see them tied everywhere in yards you really think people just like having there chicken on a chain. Most of these game breed dogs I know of are still being tested somewhere we have to be real careful as we run down fighters as they see nothing wrong with it. Just as we see nothing wrong with what we do. Chance.....I think your half azz crazy sometimes but that's about as spot on as it could be said .... ^^^ I agree fellas.... |
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Alot of folks forget that these dogs (bulldogs aka the APBT), as amazing as they are, are living beings and not machines. They'll all quit eventually, just some sooner than others. The physical body can only take so much.
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Pepper
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I second what your saying about the body shutting down and quitting but my half red nose and american pit would die of head before she would let go.. And neither of her parents hunted but its just the heart of the dog that makes her what she is. As far as the orginal question dog fighting has been banded from happening but it still goes on more than you think. Out of the fighting blood line ive seen the are a small frame and not as muscular as a normal pit but. heck im not a scientist so i cant say..
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Caseydejohn
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I guess what you are trying to say peach is soon the game dogs will be like the cats! They were once good working dogs but now they ain't worth a chit cuz they aren't being used for what they were bred for? Lol
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Peachcreek
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ok as everyone says "with that being said" what does a game bred pit bring to the hog hunting world that any ole pit or ab doesnt have?  As far as I know (again being stupid about fighting dogs) a fighting dog bites and tries to tear their opponent up.. is there any point in which the dogs bite and holds (like lets say holding an ear)? to me a catch dog isnt fighting a hog it is holding it so why is the "game bred" dog needed ? just my milwaukees best light thoughts on the subject did these ole bad ars fighting dogs hold the other dogs ear until they got tired and tapped out? |
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Peachcreek
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I guess what you are trying to say peach is soon the game dogs will be like the cats! They were once good working dogs but now they ain't worth a chit cuz they aren't being used for what they were bred for? Lol
yep casey that is what i was trying to say!!! winner winner chicken dinner for you! but i do hunt my cats! |
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