lack of respect

[dodgegirl]

They do form a bond! I saw a kid get his phone taken away at lunch by an ap and then I saw the ap walk by a student well known for getting in trouble who had his phone out and the ap just pointed at him.

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

Good thread. I too have actually OFFENDED people, particularly women, by calling them maam. Sorry it's habit for me to be polite LOL. I get the flustered look often, followed by the...."I'm not THAT old." What the hell? I'm only 30 but my kids all address me as maam, and they address their elders with sir and maam. I think it's rediculous that some people are actially so insecure about their age or whatever that they actually get offended by being addressed respectfully! I'll always be a polite person.

[reatj81]

Manners are not an option!    My son who now lives with his mom started all that yea crap last year!  Guess she knows I won't tolerate it so she let's it slide.   She wasn't raised to be disrespectful, and started him with good manners.   Now I'm the only one who makes him address as mam sir, guess its just another part of her plan to try and keep him from wanting to come around me.   So bee it he will have manners when he is here.   If that stops him from wanting to come around so be it.   One day he will grow up and be thankful.

[dodgegirl]

Well I'm glad to see some people agree with me. I will always say yes sir or yes ma'am. I'm only 18 now but in the future my kids will also say it. As for people being bothered by us sayin it to them, there's just something weird about that. Heck I say it to my little brothers.

[tuskbuster]

they used to remind you of the yes ma"am  no ma"am in school to but thats dam sure gone by the wayside

[dub]

Well we are not free to raise our children in this country. You have people that do not think God is important. They took God and the paddle out of school. When I was a kid you could hear that pop ringing down the hallway. Then in my next class they would ask me what I did There was no way I would answer a teacher with anything other than yes mam, no mam or yes sir, no sir. I remember when I got to football practice I got called into the office I got called into the office and got my behind popped good. Then at practice I was run into the ground. Because a teacher said I was not polite. It turned out coach just heard the name wrong so the next day someone else had to get the punishment. I nevver even thought about asking for someone to say sorry to me.

I was not a Christian in school and nobody made me pray. But they sure made sure I had manners. Today when I get an attitude for being polite I just tell them that I am a real Texas man and we have manners.

Just the other day I had an older man tell me that he knew I was from Texas and so were my parents and grandparents. I asked him how he knew that. He said because when I walked up I asked if I could sit in the empty seat and said please and sir. But he knew for sure because I tipped my hat when I said it.

Manners have served me well. I have been upgraded to first class, gotten the employee rate at a hotel and so much more because of my manners. I have run into people that think if you are polite you are either stupid or weak. But they find out that is not the case soon enough. I don't have manners for other people, I have manners for myself. I have found that rude people do not respect themself so they can't respect others. But if they would respect others they would learn to respect themselves. Even if it is forced.

[RL]

Well we are not free to raise our children in this country. You have people that do not think God is important. They took God and the paddle out of school.

Neither belong in school.  There are literally hundreds of religions in the U.S.  Religious teachings belong in the home and religious facility  ...  not the public schools.

Paddling.  Having an adult beat a child with a board is not appropriate.  I instructed my children to never tolerate that and to demand that I be contacted instead.  No one, was ever allowed to beat my children with a board.

[catmando]

The only religion that seems to have been banned in the schools is chirtianty because we dont want to offend somebody who whorships dog turds or any other out there religion.Im not a religious person but I do see a connection between lack of some kind of religion foundation and the break down of our society. If people would just follow those 10 RULES things wuold be alot better ,but that would probably offend somebody,or violate thier rights some how.A paddling is not a beating that 60s touchy feelly crap aint cuttin it.

[tuskbuster]

knew that was gonna come from RL.i wonder what its like to go thru life being perfect and everything figured out.bahhhhhaaa

[RL]

The only religion that seems to have been banned in the schools is chirtianty because we dont want to offend somebody who whorships dog turds or any other out there religion.

When was the last time you heard a non-christian prayer in school?  Do you hear muslum prayers?  How about satanic prayers?  Wikkan?

A paddling is not a beating that 60s touchy feelly crap aint cuttin it.

To-may-toe  ...  to-mah-to.  I was in school in the 60's.  I was beat with boards by sadistic SOBs.  So if you want your children beat by them, allow it.  Me, that is a line I refused to allow them to cross.

[charles]

When was the last time you heard a non-christian prayer in school?  Do you hear muslum prayers?  How about satanic prayers?  Wikkan?


To-may-toe  ...  to-mah-to.  I was in school in the 60's.  I was beat with boards by sadistic SOBs.  So if you want your children beat by them, allow it.  Me, that is a line I refused to allow them to cross.

when was the last time you HAVE heard a christian prayer? its been removed from a lot of schools bc of the athiast devil worshipng muslim loving hippies dont want to hear it. well plug your ears or take your kids out and home school them. GOD has been in the schools for 100s of years. Nobody is forcing christianity an any1 during school prayer, they have the free choice to get the he!! out of the school or better yet, this country. This is not directed at or to you, just my thoughts and the "you" does not mean you RL.

[RL]

when was the last time you HAVE heard a christian prayer? its been removed from a lot of schools bc of the athiast devil worshipng muslim loving hippies dont want to hear it. well plug your ears or take your kids out and home school them. GOD has been in the schools for 100s of years. Nobody is forcing christianity an any1 during school prayer, they have the free choice to get the he!! out of the school or better yet, this country

The problem is that there are so, so many "gods" that our diverse population worships.  As I asked  ...  would you hold the same view if your child was told he could "plug his ears"  ...  or "get the hell out of the school"  ...  or "get the hell out of the country" ...  if he didn't want to hear a muslim, jewish, wikkan, buddist, amish, episcopalian, catholic etc. prayer?

This is not directed at or to you, just my thoughts and the "you" does not mean you RL.

I do appreciate that.  I understand that you are being conceptual and not personal.  We just disagree on this topic. 

[mattr]

If yall think respect is bad there, be glad your not up north. I work in northern states and people always ask me where I'm from cause I'll say mam or sir or hold the door open for people. They also don't know what to think if you tip your hat or cap or wave at someone on the road. As far as paddling goes it didnt stunt my growth any and I knew it would be worse at home. I think the more they take God out of the schools the worse off were gonna get. Not meant to ruffle any feathers. Just my opinion.

[warrent423]

I have a lack of respect for liberals, especially athiest ones. If you beat your kids at home, then the school would not have to. Around my house it was called an "attention getter"

[firemedic]

RL.....I too am a child of the 60s....I too was paddled when I misbehaved. I was never 'beat' by a teacher. I, as usual, don't agree with you on this,....BUT,....I respect your freedom to speak freely here....I am curious though, what did you do to get beat with a board by sadistic SOBs? I'm not trying to be a smartass either....I am sincerely curious about that. Please explain.

[charles]

 RL, if i had to subject myself or my son to living in a country that does not practice christianity, i would and expect him to abide by the religous believes of that country and to just deal with the garbage spewing out of the speakers or mouth of the people of that country. if you chose to move to another country, i would be obligated to learn THIER language and just ignore their belives that i do not hold true to. i would be a guest in their country, just as they should be considered a guest in our country.

Why should the igorance of a few that dont want to hear a prayer but put upon those that want to hold and have prayers? the scream louder than those that want the prayers, so it must be ok to violate their rights and subject them to just taking it in the back side to make the other happy that they dont have to pray or hear the prayer. when i was in iverseas, every morning and afternoon i had to listen to some long bearded muslim praying into a loud speaker. i did not ask for the man to stop, i just ignored it. i was a guest in that country.

[dub]

Take your opinion out and just look at the facts. When there was prayer and paddles in school how many school shootings were there? Now everyone just thinks about themselves. I went to school orientation today. I wanted to throw up. All these laws and police on campus can't control the kids. Are you going to tell me the human race has changed that much.

I asked man that claimed to civil and thought violence was never the answer about violence and the alternatives. I asked him if an employee was out of line and being disrespectful if the best choice was to punch him in the face and tell him to go back to work. Of course this was absolutely unthinkable. So I asked what was a better choice. He said that if someone was disregardful to their boss they should be fired. I said that was of course the more civil thing to do. Because punching was just a crazy example. I mean you could leave him with a black eye or a broken nose. Of course you should fire him so that he can't feed his family and ends up homeless. Because that is much more civil.

I had the paddle put across my backside many times and I am alive. So you are saying that I should have been introduced to the penal system because the paddle is wrong? RL you are not a teacher are you?

Which God or religion? How about the one this country was founded on. But this is in the Bible. It say Christians will be persecuted in the end times. So bring it on. There will be a day of judgment if I am right and there will be eternal reward for those that believe and eternal punishment for those that don't believe. But if you are right what have the believers lost?

[RL]

RL.....I too am a child of the 60s....I too was paddled when I misbehaved. I was never 'beat' by a teacher. I, as usual, don't agree with you on this,....BUT,....I respect your freedom to speak freely here....I am curious though, what did you do to get beat with a board by sadistic SOBs? I'm not trying to be a smartass either....I am sincerely curious about that. Please explain.

I don't sense that you are being a smartass.  I was hit with a board many, many times.  It was common practice.  Why?  I don't recall.

I find it strange how we all want to raise our children with our right to raise them our way, without government interference, yet somehow allowing a 3rd party adult to strike them is being defended.  I think you should be allowed to choose how you discipline your children, short of crossing the line into abuse.  I don't think I should lose my right to not have a 3rd party strike my child because you would allow it.  I don't think the government (school) should have the right to override my view.  That is all I am saying.  Thankfully, they don't.

[RL]

I had the paddle put across my backside many times and I am alive. So you are saying that I should have been introduced to the penal system because the paddle is wrong? RL you are not a teacher are you?

First, I am not a teacher.  I am a CPA.

Secondly, I am not saying that school paddling and the penal system are interconnected.  Not sure there is linkage.  Plenty of people were paddled in school still ended up in the penal system.  Plenty of them who were paddled never ended up there.  Plenty of people who were not paddled have ended up there.  And many who were not paddled have never ended up in the penal system.  I do not see a correlation.

Third, I am glad you are sill alive.  I don't think surviving school paddling (or anything similar) is a goal I sent my children to school to achieve.

[CentralTex 254]

Well I'm 21 now. I remember when I was little if I so much as said no when my grandparents told me to do something I got lit up no matter where we were at lol .but heck I think I turned out ok don't due dope  and I graduated high school and college by the time I was 21 so I think I'll raise my kids the way I was raised. , they raised me,