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« Reply #61 on: August 27, 2012, 08:22:34 pm » |
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Spare the rod, spoil the child
spoiling the child is the american way nowdays. the gov wants to step in and tell you how to raise your kids, but wont take the credit for their poor maners |
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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« Reply #62 on: August 27, 2012, 08:52:48 pm » |
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The Government school is not there to discipline your child or teach them which god they should worship.....
They should teach them to read, write and math skills....
discipline is your job....
you want them to learn about god in school...send them to your choice private school to teach them whatever god you want.
Pretty simple to me!
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« Reply #63 on: August 27, 2012, 09:20:17 pm » |
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Be real clear. I do not want the school teaching about God. I don't want God kicked out. When a child can't pray the way they want without restrictions I think it is wrong. I am saying student lead prayer should be allowed in school. The american taliban wants communal prayer but a student can't unless they are Muslim. I am saying that students should have the same freedom of speach and freedom of religion as everyone else.
The biggest problem I see is the total lack of respect by many of the children. The fact is that many parents do not discapline their children. It is not just the teachers that have to deal with it. The other students have to deal with it. The involved parents have problems with their kids because of the other kids. If the parents won't teach their child to respect the teachers the teachers should be allowed to. Because look at the total lack of respect for police. Well the lack of respect for authority starts in school. They call the police on the kids now. They hear a bunch of tough talk but nothing happens. When I was a kid they did not call the police they grabbed the paddle and the buck stopped on your butt. You learned to respect authority. I still say sir or mam to the police even if I think they are a jerk. How many kids do that today? I was talking to a teacher and asked him about the paddle or the police. He said the penal system makes money the paddle does not. Money is more imprtant to the school than children. That is the bottom line. It is all about money.
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"...A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself..." John Stuart Mill
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« Reply #64 on: August 27, 2012, 09:34:52 pm » |
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I see people tell their kids to do something and they say no or why I think wow if I told my parents anything but yes sir or mamm I would be laying on my back looking at the stars ready to do any chore they asked
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« Reply #65 on: August 27, 2012, 09:53:33 pm » |
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Be real clear. I do not want the school teaching about God. I don't want God kicked out. When a child can't pray the way they want without restrictions I think it is wrong. I am saying student lead prayer should be allowed in school. The american taliban wants communal prayer but a student can't unless they are Muslim. I am saying that students should have the same freedom of speach and freedom of religion as everyone else.
The biggest problem I see is the total lack of respect by many of the children. The fact is that many parents do not discapline their children. It is not just the teachers that have to deal with it. The other students have to deal with it. The involved parents have problems with their kids because of the other kids. If the parents won't teach their child to respect the teachers the teachers should be allowed to. Because look at the total lack of respect for police. Well the lack of respect for authority starts in school. They call the police on the kids now. They hear a bunch of tough talk but nothing happens. When I was a kid they did not call the police they grabbed the paddle and the buck stopped on your butt. You learned to respect authority. I still say sir or mam to the police even if I think they are a jerk. How many kids do that today?
You are rite on with the way I look at how our country was founded..
I was talking to a teacher and asked him about the paddle or the police. He said the penal system makes money the paddle does not. Money is more imprtant to the school than children. That is the bottom line. It is all about money.
I strongly disagree the penal system is badly backed up partly due to bs that should be handled at home, it doesn't make money it cost us money... Then if something that is court worthy it takes months or years to get to court beacuse of the backup of bs cases. When I was in school one of my good buddies dad was the principle for several years. He was also a baptist preacher. He was stern but fair. He always gave a choice of punishment, the board or suspension. The paddle won 95% of the time. He is a smaller man but could hit you do hard it picked you off the ground. He always told you to grab the desk before a swat, and always looked you straight in the eye afterwards and shook your hand. He did this to let you know he wasn't mad or holding a grudge against you, that you were punished for your actions. It didn't take many trips to see him and you acted rite! I believe if you were to have gone back the next period he would be as fair as if you had never been to his office. He is one of the kindest most respected men I know...heck he preformed my wedding..... |
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« Reply #66 on: August 27, 2012, 10:00:55 pm » |
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Dub,
The more of your post I read the better I like you. I grew up in a very healthy Christian home. My pop has been a deacon for 30 something years. My parents were very strict. Love them for it. Sometimes I think I'm too strict on my daughter, but everytime I meet one of her teachers they all brag on how good of a kid she is.
My daughters biggest complaint about school is the disruptive kids in the classroom. Funny that it's usually, but probably not always the children of those parents that do not properly discipline their children.
Dub, you are welcome around my campfire anytime.
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« Reply #67 on: August 27, 2012, 10:52:18 pm » |
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Dub,
The more of your post I read the better I like you. I grew up in a very healthy Christian home. My pop has been a deacon for 30 something years. My parents were very strict. Love them for it. Sometimes I think I'm too strict on my daughter, but everytime I meet one of her teachers they all brag on how good of a kid she is.
My daughters biggest complaint about school is the disruptive kids in the classroom. Funny that it's usually, but probably not always the children of those parents that do not properly discipline their children.
Dub, you are welcome around my campfire anytime.
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« Reply #68 on: August 28, 2012, 07:24:08 am » |
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The Government school is not there to discipline your child or teach them which god they should worship.....
They should teach them to read, write and math skills....
discipline is your job....
you want them to learn about god in school...send them to your choice private school to teach them whatever god you want.
Pretty simple to me!
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« Reply #69 on: August 28, 2012, 07:36:20 am » |
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I'm a new parent I have two kids one is 3 the other is 1, and I'll be damned if anybody is gonna tell me how to raise them, government or CPS don't mean much to me, maybe I'll get in trouble over it but my kids are my everything and I will do what I think is necessary when I think it's necessary I don't care who's watching, and god help whoever tries to take them from me!
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