people are crazy

[Hamilton_hogger]

I said that.  So instead of just commenting bavk on stuff
Just to be freakin smartasses.   Just dont comment at all.
All u people with yalls fancy 2000$ dogs need to think about it.
There aint no reason to thank your number 2 dont stink jusy cause
You got tha money to WASTE on q dog.  Theres a difference in stating an opinion
And
bein a smartass. 

[Mike]

Who's the smart ass???

You're the one that stated any ol pound dog can be trained to be a hog dog. Then you came back and said if they had the "drive", they would pick it up being hunted? That is true... if they have the "drive". If not, there's nothing you can do. How many of these dogs have you picked up and trained? I'm assuming four from your later response...

If anyone thinks that any old dog can be a hog dog... we're on opposite ends of the spectrum on what we think a hog dog is.

[Mike]

Don't none of y'all get wadded up... we're having us a discussion.

I like these training topics.

[BA-IV]

And this is where standards come into play!

I've culled quite a few dogs that would bark at a hog and run one for awhile, and no lots more who have culled 10x the dogs I have.  Just because they bark and run a hog don't make em a hog dog.

It's hard to say you have top notch hog dogs without constantly comparing them to what's considered pretty solid hog dogs.  The dogs I'm speaking of speak for themselves.

[t.wilbanks]

Don't none of y'all get wadded up... we're having us a discussion.

I like these training topics.

Me too!!! They are about as entertaining as the Dogo threads !!!!   

[hogdog hunter86]

hey hamilton hogger im with you bud ill bet i can have mike pick any 5 dog he wants to any breed from the pound muts and i can make a dog
out of them even better then them $2000 dogs just give

[Mike]

hey hamilton hogger im with you bud ill bet i can have mike pick any 5 dog he wants to any breed from the pound muts and i can make a dog
out of them even better then them $2000 dogs just give

How many do you want me to send you?

You already answered my question to you in your last post... that's was all I needed to know. Cward summed it up in his reply.

I want a dog that will cover all the country around me, looping from my feet out to a 1/2 mile. Take an 8 hour old track and stick in a hard race for no less than 25 miles on the Garmin... if he can't stop the hog.

Can you train me this type of dog from any old pound mutt? If so, you better start taking orders because you'll be a rich man.

[t.wilbanks]

hey hamilton hogger im with you bud ill bet i can have mike pick any 5 dog he wants to any breed from the pound muts and i can make a dog
out of them even better then them $2000 dogs just give

How many do you want me to send you?

You already answered my question to you in your last post... that's was all I needed to know. Cward summed it up in his reply.



I want a dog that will cover all the country around me, looping from my feet out to a 1/2 mile. Take an 8 hour old track and stick in a hard race for no less than 25 miles on the Garmin... if he can't stop the hog.

Can you train me this type of dog from any old pound mutt? If so, you better start taking orders because you'll be a rich man.

Mike I think stopping the hog should be a requirement.. It shouldn't be too hard to train..

Heck them pound dogs will probably be half pit anyways!!

[Mike]

Oh, and I haven't bought any $2,000 dogs... don't know why that keeps popping up? I raise my own and have culled a bunch that don't meet my expectations.

[Hamilton_hogger]

Well mydogs do speak for themslves.   I live in hamilton texas i hunt EVERY weekend and since i dont know what im talkin about just come on down and see for yourselves i would be more than happy to show you.  And to be homest ive gotten
One dog from pound i trained it and traded for a catch vest and some collars.
And yes it was half kerr and somethin else so it did hqve hunt in it.  But i also hqd a heeler/collie mix that was
Strikin higs at 4 months old...rip...  anyway not tryin to hqve any bad blood btwwn anybody sone things
just rub me backwards.   Especially smarta$$e$.  Hqve a little more respect
For people instead of hearin somethin nu dont believe and talkin crqp about it...i was allways told dont believe nothin u hear.  And only ualf of what u see.
but there aint no reason to put opinions in when you dont hqve a legit one.

[TShelly]

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder".. Some people think those are crazy prices for dogs, no way. I've seen two dogs that ended up selling for $3500 a piece get flat embarrasses by Boogie and Briar one day. I know of another man who has paid $5k for a dog multiple times. No offense but if you havnt seen the best of the best, it's hard to put a price on them. We don't hunt for the $$$ or anything else, strictly the enjoyment. But it would take an open check book to buy some of the dogs we hunt now and have hunted in the past...

For those dog trainers out there... if you HONESTLY think you can take any dog from the pound or whatever and train them to be "hog-dogs"?!? Well sit in my own opinion you need to raise your opinion of what an actual hog dog is. I know you may have been lucky now with your current pack but to say you can train anything is pure bs

Let me put it in a different perspective for y'all trainers. 75% kids grow up playing little league sports. Let's take baseball for example. Sure all 75% of those kids are "baseball players". Now you get to highschool and maybe 25% of those kids make the baseball team and call themselves "baseball players", then those kids graduate and now 5% are actually good enough to play college sports and call themselves "baseball players", finally the cream rises to the crop and 1% of those kids actually are "legitimate big league baseball players"

To me hog dogs are the same way. Some people hunt t-ballers, most hunt high schoolers, the majority of good ones are college athletes and the superstars... Well they make the big bucks in the majors!!

[BA-IV]

Quit talking so bad about my dogs Tony 

They ball big with them soft Tee-balls!

[Mike]

Hamilton, that's great... sounds like you've been fortunate with your dogs. Do you ever travel and try them in different terrains, or just hunt there? The reason I ask is because that will show you what your dogs are made of.

Nobody is being a smart ass... the point being made is that not any dog can be a hog dog.

[reatj81]

Tshelly good example!

[t.wilbanks]

Well mydogs do speak for themslves.   I live in hamilton texas i hunt EVERY weekend and since i dont know what im talkin about just come on down and see for yourselves i would be more than happy to show you.  And to be homest ive gotten
One dog from pound i trained it and traded for a catch vest and some collars.
And yes it was half kerr and somethin else so it did hqve hunt in it.  But i also hqd a heeler/collie mix that was
Strikin higs at 4 months old...rip...  anyway not tryin to hqve any bad blood btwwn anybody sone things
just rub me backwards.   Especially smarta$$e$.  Hqve a little more respect
For people instead of hearin somethin nu dont believe and talkin crqp about it...i was allways told dont believe nothin u hear.  And only ualf of what u see.
but there aint no reason to put opinions in when you dont hqve a legit one.

Im not sure your seeing the point...

No one is saying you have sorry dogs...

Each dog you listed that you TRAINED was a breed(s) that are bred to hunt/work...

Heelers and collies are also working dogs FYI...

The point is, you can't take a dog with no hunt/drive and train that into them...

You stated that you just run them with your old gyp and let her do the rest..
Well what if you didn't have her, what would you do??

Most likely, you would show them hogs and feed them tracks and let their GENETICS take over...

Do many train their pups one on one?? No, but with a pup with the right genetics you could if you wanted...

[TShelly]

Quit talking so bad about my dogs Tony 

They ball big with them soft Tee-balls!

Hahaha that's funny!

Tshelly good example!

Thanks Jody, yeah it's easier for people to understand the different levels of "hog dogs" when you can relate the to other athletes. Which is exactly what our dogs are, varying degrees of athletes

[t.wilbanks]

If hog dog are like baseball players, my dogs must be trying to be soccer players because they act like they are in a totally different game!! 

[Hamilton_hogger]

Mike...yes ive hunted all oover texas allways tha same.
We produce hogs all tha same ive had same pack for 3 yrs
so im not worried bout em.ive caught 187 hogs since january 4 of this yr.
So im not to worried about what anybody thinks about
Me my dogs or the way i traiin em.  Good lucj everyone and happy huntin.

[hogdog hunter86]

hell ya mike i can get me a yorkie cross and ill show you how its done boy!!!!

[Reuben]

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder".. Some people think those are crazy prices for dogs, no way. I've seen two dogs that ended up selling for $3500 a piece get flat embarrasses by Boogie and Briar one day. I know of another man who has paid $5k for a dog multiple times. No offense but if you havnt seen the best of the best, it's hard to put a price on them. We don't hunt for the $$$ or anything else, strictly the enjoyment. But it would take an open check book to buy some of the dogs we hunt now and have hunted in the past...

For those dog trainers out there... if you HONESTLY think you can take any dog from the pound or whatever and train them to be "hog-dogs"?!? Well sit in my own opinion you need to raise your opinion of what an actual hog dog is. I know you may have been lucky now with your current pack but to say you can train anything is pure bs

Let me put it in a different perspective for y'all trainers. 75% kids grow up playing little league sports. Let's take baseball for example. Sure all 75% of those kids are "baseball players". Now you get to highschool and maybe 25% of those kids make the baseball team and call themselves "baseball players", then those kids graduate and now 5% are actually good enough to play college sports and call themselves "baseball players", finally the cream rises to the crop and 1% of those kids actually are "legitimate big league baseball players"

To me hog dogs are the same way. Some people hunt t-ballers, most hunt high schoolers, the majority of good ones are college athletes and the superstars... Well they make the big bucks in the majors!!

Awesome explanation...the cream rises to the top...picking the right pups is of utmost importance or we will be spinning our wheels...not an easy task...