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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2012, 04:11:10 pm »

Hey guy i just want to talk about people that want to much for there dogs like that guy that want to sell them cow dog for 1000,2000,or 1500 hes crazy man thats just screwing people out of there money theres not a dog ill pay for that much unless i can set at the house and tell him to go get the cow and work them by him self and the strick dogs for 1000 man thats dum pay all that money and he might get killed that night all the dog i have i payed 50 to 100 and there just as good hood or off the box dont trail bark 100% trash broke and people want 500 for a pup that might work well guys dont let them screw you out of your money cause they will and i have pure blackmouths and cats and  hounds but the best dogs i have are muts that people dont want to put up with and let me tell you they will hunt just as good as them $1000 to $5000 dogs or better thats all i have to say. 
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Id be willing to bet that myself and alot of other guys on here would be more than happy to tell you to bring your dogs and lets find out
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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2012, 04:51:42 pm »

ya'll are stuck in the hog dog world . there is a whole wide world full of dogs that hunt other game . the price of a hog dog is dirt cheap and set at the bottom dollar of the dog world as it is . expand your horizons and go and start priceing you out a finished lab or a started pointer for quail . then go and check the big game and coon hound prices . hell a sho nuff good squirrel dog will cost you 1500.00 dollars  lol . hog doggers have got it made even with the 2500.00 dogs that are out there . right now the average price on a purty good dog is only 500.00 dollars consider yourselves lucky it won't last forever .
yea price them finished (truly finished) bird dogs, labs, or pointers, health certifed and all. Really be suprised there. Check out some just health certifed golden retriever pups un started
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2012, 05:24:33 pm »

At jon no joke on the goldens my buddy raises um and u want a puppy papered with health certicate 2000 !!! Shocked
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2012, 05:42:03 pm »

I enjoy my dogs and training, that's why they don't have a price on em.  If you was to ask me to price them, it'd be ridiculous just so you wouldn't ask again.

And if you decided to pay that ridiculous price for em, well I'm a man of my word and would sell you the dog.  On one hand I'd be aggravated and alil sad over my dog, but my wife shire would be happy  laugh
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2012, 06:47:26 pm »

At jon no joke on the goldens my buddy raises um and u want a puppy papered with health certicate 2000 !!! Shocked
Ive seen 8wk old pups 3800... Them gun dogs high dollar
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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2012, 07:11:29 pm »

I will also agree with him.  I have given away some well started dogs. Seen them back on the dog trade for decent money. Did I get screwed for not asking that money I don't think so.  I don't really think that it is right but oh well part of it.  Now that being said I have offered damn good money for one dog that I really liked and got turned down on him. Offering price and asking price imo are two different things.
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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2012, 07:24:04 pm »

If a dog isn't any good, it don't matter how much time energy effort vet bills or feed has been thrown at it, it still isn't any good. If all the time and such pays off and it makes a good dog, then a person can justify puttn a bigger price on it. If all it can find is a food bowl, and you've put a couple or a few years into it, it is still only a feed burner.   

x2...no matter how cheap or expensive a dog...there are only 3 types of hunting dogs... good to great dogs and culls...
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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2012, 07:41:22 pm »

I agree that some people may get ripped off. But I do think a good one is worth that much. Yeah they are people that will sell a good one that's completely finished for 500 and yet some will want 500 for a papered puppy. If you got the money and the dog is worth it buy it. If not then don't but like others said you could get 5 free puppies and feed and cull for 2-5 years and at the end if you do have one left there is just as good a chance hes not what you could of bought for the same amount or less than what you spent on them puppies over the years. I know some people will admit that if they could of started over they would start with finished dogs instead of puppies. It took me a long time to get what I have and it might not be much but would of been cheaper in the long run.
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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2012, 08:12:56 pm »

I agree that some people may get ripped off. But I do think a good one is worth that much. Yeah they are people that will sell a good one that's completely finished for 500 and yet some will want 500 for a papered puppy. If you got the money and the dog is worth it buy it. If not then don't but like others said you could get 5 free puppies and feed and cull for 2-5 years and at the end if you do have one left there is just as good a chance hes not what you could of bought for the same amount or less than what you spent on them puppies over the years. I know some people will admit that if they could of started over they would start with finished dogs instead of puppies. It took me a long time to get what I have and it might not be much but would of been cheaper in the long run.


hansonw...you make some good points...but buying 3 or 4 pups from a good line of dogs could possibly set you up with some dogs that can't be bought in 2 years...

and those pups, because they are bred right and proven can be bred to get more as you need them...but getting started is the hardest part...because a good line of dogs is hard to come by...
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« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2012, 08:18:36 pm »

If a dog isn't any good, it don't matter how much time energy effort vet bills or feed has been thrown at it, it still isn't any good. If all the time and such pays off and it makes a good dog, then a person can justify puttn a bigger price on it. If all it can find is a food bowl, and you've put a couple or a few years into it, it is still only a feed burner.   

Just like Everything else....inflation......Obama's Artificially low intrest rates has about made the US dollar worthless.
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« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2012, 02:21:08 am »

I agree that some people may get ripped off. But I do think a good one is worth that much. Yeah they are people that will sell a good one that's completely finished for 500 and yet some will want 500 for a papered puppy. If you got the money and the dog is worth it buy it. If not then don't but like others said you could get 5 free puppies and feed and cull for 2-5 years and at the end if you do have one left there is just as good a chance hes not what you could of bought for the same amount or less than what you spent on them puppies over the years. I know some people will admit that if they could of started over they would start with finished dogs instead of puppies. It took me a long time to get what I have and it might not be much but would of been cheaper in the long run.



I also agree with you. The problem is it's hard to find a good breed pup that aren't already spoken for before the dogs is even breed. Most people that really have a good line also have a long line for someone waiting. Also if you have a good line that you have preserved and culled hard to maintain most don't want their puppies available to the general public. As far as startin from scratch from somebody that don't know chit about dogs it would be hard for them to do that. I wouldn't take back what I have spent in time and money but I have seen friends that just went out and bought dogs and they didn't have to wait to catch hogs. I think everybody should raise a pup  wether they raise him from scratch or behind a
Finished dog.

hansonw...you make some good points...but buying 3 or 4 pups from a good line of dogs could possibly set you up with some dogs that can't be bought in 2 years...

and those pups, because they are bred right and proven can be bred to get more as you need them...but getting started is the hardest part...because a good line of dogs is hard to come by...
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« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2012, 05:56:50 am »

Hey guy i just want to talk about people that want to much for there dogs like that guy that want to sell them cow dog for 1000,2000,or 1500 hes crazy man thats just screwing people out of there money theres not a dog ill pay for that much unless i can set at the house and tell him to go get the cow and work them by him self and the strick dogs for 1000 man thats dum pay all that money and he might get killed that night all the dog i have i payed 50 to 100 and there just as good hood or off the box dont trail bark 100% trash broke and people want 500 for a pup that might work well guys dont let them screw you out of your money cause they will and i have pure blackmouths and cats and  hounds but the best dogs i have are muts that people dont want to put up with and let me tell you they will hunt just as good as them $1000 to $5000 dogs or better thats all i have to say. 
Thinks for your time and good hunting

Do you know the man selling the dogs? Do you know the bloodline of the dogs? Have you seen these dogs or any of the dogs in its background work? If not I dont know how you would come to the conclusion that this fella is ripping anyone off. If they turn out anything like the sire to these pups $2000 is just a drop in the bucket from what Ive seen and know. Sure is alot of drama starters on this board lately and Im sure they will all be dealt with accordingly in time.
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« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2012, 11:08:57 am »

I mouthed off on a hunt the other day , Id sell that dog for 4 grand and my buddy kept saying you shouldnt of said that and offered 3500 cash right there , he never throwed down the other 500 , Im sure glad , I take a high value of my older dogs , time and tracks and a sure enought good dog is worth a lot in my book  and could get probably what you ask for it ,  a honest man would take you hunting more than once with a said dog and you could make your call on a price , Im sure glad I still have mine and broke LOL
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« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2012, 12:43:22 pm »

If I had a good dog I might would sell it. I just ain't never had a good one.lol
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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2012, 12:53:34 pm »

Strangely as it may sound, I agree with this fellow.

The more "hog dogs" i see, the more I believe most of them, even the "jam up" ones  shouldn't be worth more than a few bags of food.  


If I had a good dog I might would sell it. I just ain't never had a good one.lol

Well I like the way T Bob thinks...  I'll be down to pick up a few yalls dogs... What kind of dog food do y'all want??   Wink
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« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2012, 10:51:42 am »

Trent, you already missed out bro. One of the dogs I gave to a fella just came up on the dog trade as a "jam up bmc strike dog" for over thousand lol! I'm kinda flattered that a dog who i didn't like enough to keep could pull that kinda dough 

After that I came to my scences and I won't give a dog away anymore. It's gonna have to be someone I actually know and trust.
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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2012, 08:54:12 pm »

Man I have been offered 2500 for one of my dogs one time. I couldnt do it. Outside people look at my dogs probably see a pack of rag tag mutts. But that's ok. I have so much time, blood, sweat, and even a few tears in my pack!!! I damn sure aint got the best dogs around. Hell I am lucky if they find a hog every once in awhile. But I love what I got!!! My dogs mean so damn much to me, there aint no way I could sell em. There is a few select people that I would GIVE my dogs to... And heck they may not even hunt for em. People do crazy things, and on the fact of paying big bucks for a dog. I would damn sure pay BIG money for a certain dog I had that is kilt now!!! If I could pay money to bring that gyp back to me I wouldnt think twice about it!!!!
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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2012, 09:45:25 pm »

 laugh
Would you sell your dogs for 100 bucks??
Evil Evil. Very good point.
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« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2012, 10:59:15 pm »

I guess ill give my opinion too then..
First of all it would be nice to have the kind of $,
to "spend" on a well trained finished dog. 
"Trained by someone else".. thats weird to me that someone
Wouldnt ttrain there OWN dogs to obey and do there specific
Job..the way YOU want them to.   I have been around dogs and old men that
Traded back qnd forth between friends my whole entire life..my grandfather wss takin me coyote huntin with hounds since i was a kid.  I never seen cash exchanged for a dog i guess thats just cuz we allways been poor.lol  anyway  to each his own dogs a dog i guarantee i can go to pound and pici up dog and train to be a hogdog. 
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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2012, 03:00:54 am »

Hamilton how long does it usually take to train a good dog from the pound? You start with puppies or older dogs?
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