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« on: September 28, 2012, 05:16:17 pm » |
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Any of y'all have anything off of machobuck or his progency catching hogs for you? More specifically do you know of any super machobuck or machobear breedings that are up and catching already, and if so, anybody got any plans for some pups?
I know I can find out all I want to know by calling evolution kennels, but those first generation pups are way way way way out of my catchdog budget.
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WayOutWest
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2012, 10:02:29 pm » |
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I know what you mean. They are pretty proud of those pups.
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2012, 10:11:07 pm » |
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I would worry about dog aggression issues. Is that just me thinking that way?
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2012, 10:19:59 pm » |
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It says they can be extremely dog aggressive. It seems that most true game bred dogs have that in common, at least they have a good chance of becoming this way depending on how you, as the owner, raise them.
Some people can live with dog aggression, it's just something they are willing to deal with.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2012, 11:27:33 pm » |
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Dog aggression is relative. Every pit I've ever had has the capability of being a douche to other dogs if left to their own devices.
I personally like a case brand knife with no locking feature becuase I can get it sharp as a razor blade and know for a fact that there's nothing for me to rely on for my personal saftey except for my brain and proper knife handling technique. I feel the same about game dogs.
Their not for everybody, but the ones I've been around are focused and intelligent. Not to mention they are THE zenith of canine athleticism.
Those features are what have me putting my feelers out for a game specimen. Properly conditioned, I can be as proud to work one of them as my strike dogs, and not only will most "bite and not let go" but they have the mindset to find their mark and get it on time every time.
No matter the breed, I respect a dog who was bred on purpose, with purpose.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2012, 12:20:18 am » |
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I definitely agree with you on this. It's hard enough finding a decent catchdog so I've settled to looking at em much like I do my Cur dogs as far as genetics and breeding goes.
This will be my next project, and I'm anxious to see how it turns out. I don't have near the experience with game bred dogs but I'm sure fixing to give it a whirl. I doubt I can keep em as well muscled and as in superb shape as some of the dogs look in the pictures but I'm still doing lots of research on it.
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Reuben
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2012, 03:28:53 am » |
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back in the 1980's when it wasn't illegal to fight pits most pits that came out of the pound made pretty good catch dogs...even the back yard breeders had some that worked but nowadays it is harder to find a good pit...too many generations removed from the sport...those machobuck and mayday dogs look like they would hunt...and they are bred for stamina/endurance...some of those types of dogs are naturally hard muscled and with a little exercise they will look to be in top form. I like them...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2012, 04:31:48 am » |
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This is exactly kind of game bred dog I've been looking for...I'm sure there pricey. I also worry bout dog aggression.
Anybody know what price range they run??
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2012, 05:18:44 am » |
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I priced puppies at one time a year ago and it was $1500 on the low end, and a stud fee just as much if they would even stud the dog out. Alittle to much for me to invest in catchdogs especially the way I cull through them, and what I don't cull, a hog can get at any time.
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2012, 06:11:46 am » |
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I like a dog that is 1/2 game bred and 1/2 "yard" pit. Dogs like those have too great a tendency to be dog aggressive. What u need to do is hook up with someone who uses their pits for illegal activities and get their "cold" dogs. They make the best catch dogs.
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2012, 08:30:47 am » |
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Some lines of APBT's seem to come out of the womb wantin to fight. Others are more laid back till somethin looks them in the eye. I have run Jeep Redboy Rascal stuff for quite some time and unless you encourage them they don't look to start chit. I have hunted 2 different ones over the last 3 years and have not had dog agression issue. I have hauled them in the same trailer behind the 4 wheeler. I wouldn't let them run in the yard when they are not hunting but they are all business when huntin. Both dogs I hunted were in the 55# range. Bigger than I liked years ago but big enough for huntin. Most times this breed of dogs if raised by you will act how you expect them to act. If you got a chip on your shoulder your dog will most likely reflect that.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2012, 08:38:10 am » |
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Some lines of APBT's seem to come out of the womb wantin to fight. Others are more laid back till somethin looks them in the eye. I have run Jeep Redboy Rascal stuff for quite some time and unless you encourage them they don't look to start chit. I have hunted 2 different ones over the last 3 years and have not had dog agression issue. I have hauled them in the same trailer behind the 4 wheeler. I wouldn't let them run in the yard when they are not hunting but they are all business when huntin. Both dogs I hunted were in the 55# range. Bigger than I liked years ago but big enough for huntin. Most times this breed of dogs if raised by you will act how you expect them to act. If you got a chip on your shoulder your dog will most likely reflect that.
good post wayoutwest...I like the slender leggy 55 pounders...I have been thinking about 1/4 of this type of dog in the mt. cur...some of the mt. curs already comes with the grit...I think a few of these for running catch type dogs... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2012, 09:17:21 am » |
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Wayoutwest,
What's your take on the Virgil blood? Pros and cons if you have any experience I would like to hear it.
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2012, 10:44:19 am » |
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Is anyone working Blackjack lines?
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2012, 03:50:55 pm » |
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What's all ina machobuck.
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« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2012, 04:05:05 pm » |
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What's all ina machobuck.
He's got a lot of Jocko and Bolio in him if I remember right. |
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2012, 04:50:45 pm » |
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So is anyone using them as a catchdog? sht i wanna know!
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WayOutWest
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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2012, 09:00:00 pm » |
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A friend up in Tennesse has some good Virgil blood. I like the dogs. Almost bred to XXX but it was too darn far away. Since I get to Texas a lot I bred to a pure Carver dog off Miss Kim and Little Man blood. It has made some good dogs. I run Blackjack dogs myself so I wanted a good outcross. I don't think the gal in Tennesse would put a dog in a hog hunting home tho.
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« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2012, 09:03:19 pm » |
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which Virgil?
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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2012, 09:36:24 pm » |
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West how are the catch dogs I use bread? Tdog keeps the papers for me, cause u nothing about any bulldog breading.
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