Papers don't make a dog!!

[7Mhunter]

Papers don't make a dog guys hunting them doe's ive been around dogs all my life and by far i could almost prove that papers don't make a dog registerd bmc by far almost the dumbest thing in the world find someone with old blood lines and buy one cheaper and no im not hating if yall have registerd bmcs just stating my point.

[Scott]

Papers don't make a dog guys hunting them doe's ive been around dogs all my life and by far i could almost prove that papers don't make a dog registerd bmc by far almost the dumbest thing in the world find someone with old blood lines and buy one cheaper and no im not hating if yall have registerd bmcs just stating my point.

Papers don't, the pedigree does...

[halfbreed]

  just depengs on whom's holding them papers . just as many crappy grade dogs out thar most than likely way  more  lol just stateing 50 something years experiance  lol .  papers are just a road map for the serious breeders .

[Lance]

The registered lines use to be unregistered until someone started a registry to help promote and sell their line of dogs.

[7Mhunter]

Yes i know my dad has had his bloodline since like the 70's alot of people know my dad

[SnF bucking bulls]

its not the pappers that make the dog worth more money. its the bloodline and the name on those pappers. i agree that hunting the dog will make the dog the papers dont do that. but iv had 2 reg bmcs and they seemed to pick there game up at an earlier age then most dogs. jmo

[7Mhunter]

Well i agree just because my two coon dogs are world champ blood and purple ribbon doesnt mean there good coon dogs i cant hunt a dog that i have no clue where it came from and how its bred we have raised all of our dogs like i said my dad has had his bloodline sunce like the 70's and almost everybody has heard or knows him

[Hog Dog Mike]

I ran lots of high dollar bird dogs at one time. They had bloodlines as good as you can get. One dog was the direct son of the national champion bred to a dam that was out of a national champion. This dog was bred in the purple on both sides for several generations.

Without a doubt that dog was the sorriest bird dog I have ever owned in my life. With selective breeding he could have set bird dogs back at least 50 years.

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

ALL paperwork/pedigrees are is a way to keep track of what dogs were bred to what to produce whom. Nothing more nothing less. Before there were registires way back when, folks used to keep handwritten pedigrees to keep track of their dogs' lineage. All a modern day regisrty does for the most part is take your money to print you a pedigree on a pretty piece of paper to keep in your records, and a registration certificate to tell you that you own your dog, lol. 

[justincorbell]

Well i agree just because my two coon dogs are world champ blood and purple ribbon doesnt mean there good coon dogs i cant hunt a dog that i have no clue where it came from and how its bred we have raised all of our dogs like i said my dad has had his bloodline sunce like the 70's and almost everybody has heard or knows him

Y not? 2 of the better dogs ive ever owned I knew nothing about when i got em, 1 was a hound and the other a curr mix.....y can you not hunt a dog if you dont know its background??? Just asking an honest question

[JHicks]

I run a kennel of some really well bred foxhounds goes back to the original bywaters virginia foxhound blood and alot farther back with some of the improted english blood. i breed to hunt but keep the paper work going, but it normally doesnt mean a thing. your still gonna have culls and rejects. but its part of the game.

[7Mhunter]

Well i agree just because my two coon dogs are world champ blood and purple ribbon doesnt mean there good coon dogs i cant hunt a dog that i have no clue where it came from and how its bred we have raised all of our dogs like i said my dad has had his bloodline sunce like the 70's and almost everybody has heard or knows him

Y not? 2 of the better dogs ive ever owned I knew nothing about when i got em, 1 was a hound and the other a curr mix.....y can you not hunt a dog if you dont know its background??? Just asking an honest question

every one of my dogs my dad has bred and raised and i know where they came from which dogs there out of and what dogs there line goes back to i was raised different

[KevinN]

Well i agree just because my two coon dogs are world champ blood and purple ribbon doesnt mean there good coon dogs i cant hunt a dog that i have no clue where it came from and how its bred we have raised all of our dogs like i said my dad has had his bloodline sunce like the 70's and almost everybody has heard or knows him

Y not? 2 of the better dogs ive ever owned I knew nothing about when i got em, 1 was a hound and the other a curr mix.....y can you not hunt a dog if you dont know its background??? Just asking an honest question

every one of my dogs my dad has bred and raised and i know where they came from which dogs there out of and what dogs there line goes back to i was raised different

To each his own but your gonna miss out on alot of good options if you limit yourself to papered dogs.

[TexasHogDogs]

If every dog was still alive that I culled that had flawless papers today I would be a rich man because I could sell them for tons of money just by what the papers have written on them .  They were culls with flawless papers some of the very best dogs alive at the time were sires , dams, grandsires , grandmaws  and some are most world known dogs  but I culled and kept only the best performace dogs I did not keep dogs just because World Champion PickaPug was his daddy if he did not make the grade of performace expected he was gone .

Now can you imagine people that are keeping and breeding dogs just on paper and not performace this is what is wrong with a ton of bloodlines of dogs today.  Great looking pedigrees are just great looking pedigrees written on paper that you can wipe your ass with untill the said dog can prove other wise !

[7Mhunter]

Ours is hand written pedigree what im saying is when people are like im gunna buy me some registerd dogs because there the best same way with a horse all it does for you is money and records thats why i think its stupid because saying oh registerd dogs are the best no its not hunting the dog makes a dog and it takes them along way

[hoghunter71409]

Five of my seven dogs are registered and I like it that way.  I like to open papers on my dogs and study thier backgrounds.  I believe the hound guys like myself care a little more about registry than the curr dogs guys do.  I've seen plenty of outstanding unregistered dogs, but I just want to know the ansestory of mine.

[Caseydejohn]

7M. Your dad is ray modisett right? Does any of yalls dogs ever come out with glass eyes or cracked glass eyes ? Reason I ask is a buddy of mine bought 2 year old dogs and 3 or 4 pups from a guy in lufkin and the dogs were posed to be straight off rays dogs. One of the year old male dogs had a cracked glass eye.
I ended up with one of the gyps.

[Easttex91]

I understand your dad is a true dog man and has been for a long long time and the ways he does things obviously work well for him...not sure I understand the animosity towards the guys who do it differently though? I don't really care about registered or non registered but to each his own right?

[7Mhunter]

I didnt say i was hating on them if u read the first post and i was hating on the people that are like oh registerd dogs are the best well the answer to that is no hunting a dog makes a good dog theres alot of culls in the world and there are cull registerd dogs

[DSmith]

Papers don't make the dog, that I agree on.  But like a professional field trial trainer once told me, and he trained some great Labs on the circuit, "If you want to buy a horse with the intentions of winning the Kentucky Derby, are you going to look in the classified sectioni of the local paper for your horse?"

Best Lab I ever owned had the best pedirgree possible and she lived up to the expectations of every drop of that blood.  Best hog dog I've ever owned is a half plott, half mt. cur.  
I believe my hog dog was the one in a million.  The lab on the otherhand wasn't.

I knew I could bred that Lab to another well bred lab and the odds of good pups was pretty high.  But I go to breed that half breed hog dog, tell me what in the heck I'd breed her too?  I got no foundation.  Picking a male to breed her to is a shot in the dark.

An unpapered dog can and may hunt the hair off my papered dogs.  But they are what I choose to feed, plain and simple.  I don't claim to be an expert in animal husbandry, so I leave that up to the ones that are, in my case that would be Robert Kemmer.

No matter what a person decides to hunt, they have to be happy with it, papers or no papers.  And if the dog won't hunt, papers are just as worthless as the dog.