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« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2012, 10:12:40 am »

Well I call bullchit on the rule. But if the people are scared  of alittle competition they are scared just say it. Yea im calling you out. If my dogs get on barrs and I spend a half a day catching them then I just waisted my money. It's a family traditions  for us to work hogs and just cause your family don't do it means it not right. Well im just going to say it. I think by making this rule you just separated the ties. Yours is better than mine we will fall as dog hunters and this bullchit is what separate US.
Sorry but its how I feel.
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« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2012, 10:26:23 am »

Well I call bullchit on the rule. But if the people are scared  of alittle competition they are scared just say it. Yea im calling you out. If my dogs get on barrs and I spend a half a day catching them then I just waisted my money. It's a family traditions  for us to work hogs and just cause your family don't do it means it not right. Well im just going to say it. I think by making this rule you just separated the ties. Yours is better than mine we will fall as dog hunters and this bullchit is what separate US.
Sorry but its how I feel.

Is it harder for you to catch big boars than it is to catch big barrs Chance? 

It sounds that way...
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« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2012, 10:33:42 am »

EVERY DOG I HAD KILLED WAS BY A BARR. SO YOUR WRONG ON THAT. I GET MORE PUMPED OVER A BAR. THAN ANY BOAR. I ALSO SEEN A BARR THIS WEEK WAY A 150 pounds LIFT A 100 pound Dogo. A big Barr is more work than any boar. I'm saying you separated us and that is fine. We one the bumpers with no barrs. A wild hog is a wild hog. If they are so tame come get in the pen with one and feed him a peppermint.
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« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2012, 10:45:38 am »

The problem is you guys don't have barrs so y'all don't understand. Like I said it separated us that is it. I went and humted in Florida for a week hunted with every different kinda dog there was seen the purpose and why they like there dogs. But this rule aggregates me. Its like saying no dogs But curs are allowed in the competition. No hounds,bird dogs, or Dogos.   They are your rules if I don't like the rules well I don't need to enter.  I spoke my piece and I don't like the rule.
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« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2012, 10:58:47 am »

We one the bumpers with no barrs.

So then why are you really that aggravated?
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« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2012, 11:03:49 am »

But this rule aggregates me. Its like saying no dogs But curs are allowed in the competition. No hounds,bird dogs, or Dogos.

Not quit.  A Barr is an animal that has been altered or influenced out of its natural state.

"Breeds of dogs" or and other view points about "feed lot hunting" and such do not impact the natural state of the animal. 

A true and equal competition should be based on unaltered or influenced animals in their natural state.
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« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2012, 11:05:24 am »

Because we hunted a place with no barrs. But all the places we hunt for tdha have barrs. We did not catch any in the bumpers but still won. Lets see two years ago win the girls hunted tdha they bayed 4 barrs that day the barrs were rank and killed my gator dog. Thats why. You want to say its the best of the best but its the best of the guys who don't hunt my country.
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« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2012, 11:08:50 am »

Texas I can go talk to one man and win this competition with out any barrs hands down. The hogs arefree ranged but they will come to the roads and eat out of the floor of a buggie they are pets three hundred atleast you will see on this mans place they don't run some will let you scratch them. I call that cheating. You just have no clue. When it comes to barrs.
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« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2012, 11:14:15 am »

The rule was not placed last year but it is this year. I was planning on entering but its only for dogs that will bay boars and sows. THE BEST OF THE BEST.
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« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2012, 11:18:30 am »

Texasj don't take this as I do not like you as a person. I don't like the rule and don't think you understand what it takes to catch barrs. If they are in the woods and I get on barrs well they are ruffer bigger and badder. So if I pay to enter a competition and my dogs bay barrs all day well I just lost cause they don't know the difference
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« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2012, 11:28:04 am »

Not quit.  A Barr is an animal that has been altered or influenced out of its natural state.

"Breeds of dogs" or and other view points about "feed lot hunting" and such do not impact the natural state of the animal. 
 
Feed lot hunting, does not affect the hogs!    Bull $hit!    Are you a pencil punched or a hog hunter!   Your talking theory, not facts!   A barr hog is a bad dude!       I guess your going to tell us  next Obama is going to save our country and supports hunting & gun owners!
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« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2012, 11:32:02 am »

Well I'm not offended at all.  And whatever you write isn't going to change a thing.  Because I've caught tank boars and I've caught weak boars... I've caught rank barrs and I've caught some really fat lazy weak barrs than just stood there.

At the end of this year, one person will be awarded "Hog Dogger Of The Year".  And they can also say they beat every other hunter there out there and didn't use one Barr hog to do it.  End of story.
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« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2012, 11:41:42 am »

You just stated your opinion and it is your rule.  I think your rule separates us as hunters that is my biggest down fall on this rule. I hate to see it do that.
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« Reply #53 on: December 10, 2012, 11:52:13 am »

You just stated your opinion and it is your rule.

Here's my opinion.

"The Best" will still win regardless if the competition allowed barrs or not.
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« Reply #54 on: December 10, 2012, 11:55:47 am »

You just stated your opinion and it is your rule.

Here's my opinion.

"The Best" will still win regardless if the competition allowed barrs or not.
I still disagree
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« Reply #55 on: December 10, 2012, 12:07:16 pm »

Look at me... I'm "Hog Dogger of the Year"!

I sat in a feed lot with a spotlight and caught a bunch of big hogs.

Or, I've been turning out big boars and sows on a ranch all year and pouring the feed to them just for the contests.

What a do itin' joke.



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« Reply #56 on: December 10, 2012, 12:15:58 pm »

Look at me... I'm "Hog Dogger of the Year"!

I sat in a feed lot with a spotlight and caught a bunch of big hogs.

Or, I've been turning out big boars and sows on a ranch all year and pouring the feed to them just for the contests.

What a do itin' joke.


The exact same thing can be said the other way.  I, however, respectfully choose not write anything "not nice" if I have nothing to say at all.

If you choose to not participate in the trail (because of Barr hogs or anything else) feel free to do so without dis honoring my trail or any of the tournaments for that matter. 
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« Reply #57 on: December 10, 2012, 12:18:34 pm »




 this hog right here was being ran for over an hour my goose dog ALONE pushed him out ontop of us this BIG BARR " THAT HAS BEEN ALTERED " SEEN US SITTING ON A FOUR WHEELER STOPPED AS I WAS UNCHAINING MY BULLDOG HE CHARGED THE FOUR WHEELER LIKE WE WEREN'T CHIT BUT I GUESS HE JUST WANTED US TO PLAY WITH HIM A LITTLE BIT I RECKON HE HAD A TOOTH ACHE  


 
he tore up one of my dogs pretty bad
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« Reply #58 on: December 10, 2012, 12:19:54 pm »

but that piglet aint contest worthy
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« Reply #59 on: December 10, 2012, 12:22:10 pm »

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Just my opinion but I believe barrs are harder to catch than boars. Most have already seen dogs or they would'nt be barrs so they have a better idea of what to do or not to do to beat the dogs. Barrs are bigger, stronger, and have bigger cutters due to them not getting broke fighting over sows, all of which contributes to them being more dangerous for the dogs and the hunters. Barrs will sometimes run in packs. I've seen as few as 2 or 3 and as many as 9 barrs in one group and they will not hardly break when they are bunched up, they just stand their ground and wreck or kill any dog that comes in to catch. When a dog catches one barr the rest will attack that dog and make a pin ball out of him and when a barr does decide to break and run then he will run further than most boars. I do'nt see the difference in weighing in a barr or a boar that has old wounds or tears in his ears, or no ears at all because he has obviously seen dogs before and his natural state has also been altered. The problem that some of the hunters have with barrs is that some barrs will out weigh a boar with the same physical size and build. But then people that weigh in regular old sows could gripe about the team that weighs in a big barren sow that weighs over 300 pounds. What about the teams that weigh in a blonde, red, spotted or listed hog which is obviously proof that they have what we call blooded hogs not very far back in their history and will usually weigh more than your average piney rooter. What if some one weighs in a super fat boar that has a belly full of corn or cotton seed, is that fair ? I'm not trying to be a smart a## but there is alot of what if's when you start saying " you can't weigh this in or you can't weigh that in because it is unfair ". You asked Chance " is it harder for you to catch big boars than it is to catch big barrs". Well it's about the same or even harder to catch barrs and that is where the problem lies. Lots of the people that enter the tournaments don't know how to handle barrs when they get on them or they think that there are no barrs where they hunt but I bet there are some. It sure would be funny if some of the ones complaining caught a barr that weighed 400 pounds and would of won the tournament but come in 3rd because their complaining made it against the rules to weigh in a barr in their stringer. Grin
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