Barrs

[levibarcus]

I have only had dogs on two Barrs that I know of. I didn't catch either one. One was shot by a deer hunter and weighed over 400. The other is still at large. But I know where he lives. If I hunted competitions ( and I haven't) and someone else weighed one or more in I'd say more power to them. If you have the dogs to catch one go get them! A hog is a hog, and yeah they are bigger but in my limited experience if you catch one you deserve the extra lbs on your stringer. I don't make Barrs and don't hunt competitions so it doesn't matter to me, but that's how I see it. Not that anyone asked me!

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

Have a few locations that we have caught marked hogs by our hand several times.

Each time we catch them.....they dont come any easier than they did before. So guess my answer would be...nope dont consider that hog in any way to be tame or lesser of an adversary.  

I guess my view on hog hunting is neutral.  HUNT...HOGS...any sex breed or type Hell even caught me a wild pot bellie once.
Tournaments are getting Perty popular with the newly re energized push from all the dang tv shows. But would hate to see a gathering that is ultimately geared for entertainment smear and possibly govern a push for more laws governing the entire sport.

[Tejascatahoulas]

The purpose of TDHA is to protect and preserve our hunting rights. This hunt is the one big event that helps TDHA raise the money to do just that. So with that being said I would hope that all would come out and support TDHA. We are trying to have a level playing field for ALL hunters. There are several hunts that are doing the same. They also recognize that those hunters that cultivate Barr hunting spots are getting a tremendous advantage over the average hunters. We are working hard to put on a great hunt. We have some fantastic  prizes,top notch sponsors ,to go along with a good payout. Lets all pull together and give the organizations that are trying to fight for our hunting rights our support!!

[hogdown]

Some people are crazy. Some one pm's my buddy to call him. So my buddy calls, and the guy tells him that he was no one to him. Then told him that he hunts with ,and knows alot of ya'll and he has his own kennel of dogs, custom hunting trailer, and so on. I think that's funny. The funny thing about it. It's all about this post. lol  ;

[TexasJ]

Some people are crazy. Some one pm's my buddy to call him. So my buddy calls, and the guy tells him that he was no one to him. Then told him that he hunts with ,and knows alot of ya'll and he has his own kennel of dogs, custom hunting trailer, and so on. I think that's funny. The funny thing about it. It's all about this post. lol  ;

I'll invite anybody to call me and talk about it.  My cell phone number is smeared across everything I do.  I'm not active on this board as much as I use to be or else my screen name would be recognized by more of the newer guys.  But I still know most of the people posting on here.  Some I don't. 

I've been around a long time and hog dogging is a small world.  Hogdown, if you or anyone else would like to get to know me, or give me the opportunity to get to know you, feel free to call me anytime.  I make myself 100% available and 100% visible.

Joshua Gregory
281-380-7023

[jhy]

Can I call you to get a straight answer about my question Texas J?

Joey

[TexasJ]

Can I call you to get a straight answer about my question Texas J?

Joey

Absolutely.

[cward]

This,post came off pretty harsh and Bryant was correct it was a,bullchit post.

[TexasJ]

Anytime anyone has ever asked me, I have said that barrs have a place in tournaments.  But in a class of their own.  Not in the stringer, but in a side pot or a jack pot or possible in their own stringer.

I hope that happens for all our sake.

[Mike]

The purpose of TDHA is to protect and preserve our hunting rights. This hunt is the one big event that helps TDHA raise the money to do just that. So with that being said I would hope that all would come out and support TDHA. We are trying to have a level playing field for ALL hunters. There are several hunts that are doing the same. They also recognize that those hunters that cultivate Barr hunting spots are getting a tremendous advantage over the average hunters. We are working hard to put on a great hunt. We have some fantastic  prizes,top notch sponsors ,to go along with a good payout. Lets all pull together and give the organizations that are trying to fight for our hunting rights our support!!

I'm assuming you're new with TDHA?

Barrs have always been allowed in this contest since it started... I was involved in the first few. It was never an issue.

Paul T just stated that he has been involved the past few years... it was a non issue.

Why would you want to change a "well oiled" contest that has been working so well all these years?

[Tejascatahoulas]

Cward. I have a question for you. There are 3 other hunts that are a no Barr stringer, So are u sending Those hunts the same message that you just posted about TDHA? Are you telling them that u would have a hunt their weekend also? If not,why say that to TDHA? Why say that to an organization that is trying to actually protect you right to hunt with your dogs?

[Mike]

Cward. I have a question for you. There are 3 other hunts that are a no Barr stringer, So are u sending Those hunts the same message that you just posted about TDHA? Are you telling them that u would have a hunt their weekend also? If not,why say that to TDHA? Why say that to an organization that is trying to actually protect you right to hunt with your dogs?

Those other contests are new and started out with that rule.

TDHA is the largest in the state... and wants to change their rules after all these years?

TDHA has lost enough support the past few years... they don't need to loose any more.

[Tejascatahoulas]

Mike, no I'm not new to TDHA I was actually around when TDHA was formed. Was one of their first members and was part of group that went to Capital to be heard by our lawmakers. I've been around a long while, been involved in many events, not just dog related. I believe Paul stated in previous post that the Barr issue had been brought up a few times in his tenor with TDHA. This is not a new topic and had been a concern for awhile.

[cward]

Exactly the polls show and no one will listen. We have strongly supported the tdha. But if you take my Barr finding dogs and separate US then we will separate  we ask you to listen and we get a no. So I can show that we can put on a competition that has barrs and the people can hunt in it the same weekend  I ask for a solid day for someone to listen to the people and still the answer is no. The tdha should have done a poll on this before changing a rule. I will promise the people who are highly upset are supporters that feel like ya'll kicked us Barr Hunter to the curb. I feel that way and they do to. Im standing against the tdha for my dog hunting rights in ya the tdha competition  That is bullchit

[cward]

I have had tons of text and phone calls on this matter. Just got off the phone with another. This whole deal is making the tdha look bad. Thats not what im out to do. I love that ya'll stand up for our rights I have tdha stickers on all my stuff but tdha is separating us by telling us a Barr want count. We are in Texas by God and there are barrs all over Texas.

[Bryant]

Texas I want to hear the answer if barrs are allowed or not in the tdha. I think so for the people are speaking with the polls. I can offer a Barr competition with better prizes with no entry fee the same weekend as tdha. I do have the resources to do this. We want to be heard if tdha don't care what we have to say. Then we can step this game up. I said it once and will say it again I dont want to be separated as a dog Hunter but that is what y'all are doing if you take us out. So if the higher percentage decided to come to our Barr competition then ya'll would get nine percent out of the hunters. But I bet if we was able to give four  fouwheeler away with more money and free entry's well the tdha would be down to 3 percent and everyone would have a negative way of thinking to the tdha for not listening to what the people want the people who support them.  
I would like to know even after seeing the polls if this rule will stick. I think when the tdha supporters find out this rule is set in stone the tdha will lose alot of support do to the fact they will not listening to there members . So far Boarwild is the only one listening.

I've stayed out of this whole debate, as I can honestly see arguments for both sides...but to be perfectly honest this is the biggest bunch of BS I've read in a long time.  What are you now "threatening" the TDHA because you don't like their rule?  Seriously...

The TDHA hunt has a foremost purpose...and believe it or not it's NOT about the prizes.  The hunt was formed as a fund raiser for TDHA to raise money to defend YOUR and MY right to hunt with dogs.  I don't care if you support their rule or not, you should still support the cause.  If you don't like the rule, don't hunt it...but to say "I can offer a Barr competition with better prizes with no entry fee the same weekend as tdha"....GROW UP!  And besides...if the "barr hogs" were the reason why people would attend YOUR hunt why would you need better prizes and no entry fee?

Hell, maybe I'll have a third hunt that same day.  No barrs, no entry fees and give everyone who hunts a new truck.

You need to slow down a bit and think about what you're saying...

[t.wilbanks]

We don't see many Barr hogs in our area... A few of us have started doing a few in the last couple years on places that we can... If we catch it on farm land, we cut and relocate it...

Before we started this, we caught a Barr hog that weighed 300 on the dot... No telling where it came from as not many that I know of in this area Barr them...

If that would have been a contest hunt, it would have been a big blow to us... We had no idea a Barr was around, it took a lot of time to catch him, and took a bulldog out of the hunt...

I say allow barrs...   Heck we havent caught any of the ones we barred, so anyone has a chance at catching them!!!  

[cward]

Bryant im saying the tdha is separateing US from the hunt. That is what im saying I have always stood beside them. By taking the barrs out you take us out. I said it at the beginnin. My point is I want them to listen they are not. We have planned all year to hunt this competition for that weekend and now if we catch barrs they don't count. This a new rule and no one ask to change it. That is the point im trying to get at.  I could lay down and say thats the rule and go on about my business. And the tdha can lay down and let them take away our dog hunting rights. We like barrs in our country and some of us think they should count.

[cward]

The west Texas hunt whatever the name of it had there tournament the same weekend and allowed high fence hunting did it hurt the tdha yes it did. Mike hunted the millican boys hunted those boys hunt the tdha every year except the last year. Why they were put on the same weekend I don't know. But they were. And it hurts  the competitions. Im a Texas dog Hunter and by saying the barrs don't count you are saying our dogs don't count.

[boarwild]

The west Texas hunt whatever the name of it had there tournament the same weekend and allowed high fence hunting did it hurt the tdha yes it did. Mike hunted the millican boys hunted those boys hunt the tdha every year except the last year. Why they were put on the same weekend I don't know. But they were. And it hurts  the competitions. Im a Texas dog Hunter and by saying the barrs don't count you are saying our dogs don't count.

Everyone needs to understand there is no rule at this time.  Our rules have not even been decided at all.  We had to redo them this year being we are going back to a dead hog hunt. 

I want to do right for as many as we can.  I think there is a compromise, but Bryant i totally agree with you about the "hunt the hunt for the cause."  We lost a lot of people due to the live hog hunt which is understandable.  Many people just can't do that sort of contest.  We went from 77 teams in 2011 to 44 in 2012.  There should be no reason why we should have any less then that this year.  Other contest have changed there dates to support TDHA which is a big step in the right direction.  I don't think enough people understand how not fun it is to be on a board..  We are here for all hog, coon, bird, squirrel and whatever else sort of hunting dog there is out there.  This hunt is meant to raise money for us to do so, and in some way either by food or money to feed the hungry. 

Whatever rule does come up i do hope many people do show up!  Thanks for all the comments and votes.  This is a great place with this many people but if you get a chance please go over to TDHA websites to discuss your thoughts as well.