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						| cantexduck | 
								|  | « Reply #60 on:  January 29, 2013, 08:31:09 pm » |  | 
 
 one bay and one catch dog and one hunter. That is the best of the best. If a dog gets hurt, that is the nature of the beast. If you let one bring in another bulldog in case the first gets hurt it will open up a new can of worms. Send a spectator along with each hunter. Just them two, of course no friends matched up. The pot will be big so the temptation willl be there. That is the way I see it. If you want to find out who has the right dogs and spots. Two dogs and the hunter, thats it. Dead hog contest.
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								|  | « Reply #61 on:  January 29, 2013, 08:34:50 pm » |  | 
 
 one bay and one catch dog and one hunter. That is the best of the best. If a dog gets hurt, that is the nature of the beast. If you let one bring in another bulldog in case the first gets hurt it will open up a new can of worms. Send a spectator along with each hunter. Just them two, of course no friends matched up. The pot will be big so the temptation willl be there. That is the way I see it. If you want to find out who has the right dogs and spots. Two dogs and the hunter, thats it. Dead hog contest.
 
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						| TColt | 
								|  | « Reply #62 on:  January 29, 2013, 08:48:49 pm » |  | 
 
 one bay and one catch dog and one hunter. That is the best of the best. If a dog gets hurt, that is the nature of the beast. If you let one bring in another bulldog in case the first gets hurt it will open up a new can of worms. Send a spectator along with each hunter. Just them two, of course no friends matched up. The pot will be big so the temptation willl be there. That is the way I see it. If you want to find out who has the right dogs and spots. Two dogs and the hunter, thats it. Dead hog contest.
 
 Not really sure what to do with a bunch of dead hogs... How is one person supposed to get a 300 lbs hog up a creek bank by themselves, dead or alive? |  
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								|  | « Reply #63 on:  January 29, 2013, 09:03:51 pm » |  | 
 
 one bay and one catch dog and one hunter. That is the best of the best. If a dog gets hurt, that is the nature of the beast. If you let one bring in another bulldog in case the first gets hurt it will open up a new can of worms. Send a spectator along with each hunter. Just them two, of course no friends matched up. The pot will be big so the temptation willl be there. That is the way I see it. If you want to find out who has the right dogs and spots. Two dogs and the hunter, thats it. Dead hog contest.
 
 Not really sure what to do with a bunch of dead hogs... How is one person supposed to get a 300 lbs hog up a creek bank by themselves, dead or alive?A real hog dog would find it bay it catch stick it and drag it up the creek bank. Lol Good point though. |  
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						| txhogsanddogs | 
								|  | « Reply #64 on:  January 29, 2013, 09:18:05 pm » |  | 
 
 I was just agreeing to the 1 strike 1 bay to clear my last post up. I think you need another team mate though for sure but I'm fine with or without one.  |  
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						| cantexduck | 
								|  | « Reply #65 on:  January 29, 2013, 09:47:04 pm » |  | 
 
 Spectator can help load hog.  If the object is to have a top dog and hunter contest then that hunter and two dogs should have to bust ass to earn that title.  |  
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								|  | « Reply #66 on:  January 29, 2013, 09:50:32 pm » |  | 
 
 2 strike 1 catch... one question.. What about hand caught hogs. Like hunting at night and hogs are running everywhere. We have caught plenty trying to run by and miss judged a few and had to retreat lol.  |  
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						| TColt | 
								|  | « Reply #67 on:  January 29, 2013, 10:37:43 pm » |  | 
 
 Spectator can help load hog.  If the object is to have a top dog and hunter contest then that hunter and two dogs should have to bust ass to earn that title. 
 Well its mostly about the dog, since our sport is more about the dogs... were not really getting down on our hands and knees and crawling a track. I just don't see this working out or people entering without some extra hands. I have caught a lot of hogs in places where I couldn't get a horse, much less a wheeler, and another set of hands or two pulling on a lead, I was at least able to get the hog out. I think almost 48 hours of hunting with two dogs and a limited number of helpers, those hunters are gonna be busting their asses. Again, whats your idea for all the dead hogs? |  
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						| cward | 
								|  | « Reply #68 on:  January 29, 2013, 11:14:42 pm » |  | 
 
 No help at all. Get creative load the hog yourself. Live hog is good. People don't watch a car race to see who wins they watch to see the wreck.  |  
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								|  | « Reply #69 on:  January 30, 2013, 07:50:53 am » |  | 
 
 After the hunter weighs his hogs then the hunter is responsible for disposal I think that's what you were asking about |  
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						| cantexduck | 
								|  | « Reply #70 on:  January 30, 2013, 09:14:28 am » |  | 
 
 Dead hog. Not everyone has the equipment, trailers, to keep live hogs.  The number of entrys will be low so it isnt like a buyer will have hundreds of hogs to buy. Make the expense money of tournament on the entry money. Dead hogs mean less work for you. No need to line up buyer. No pens needed. Just a scale. 
 
 I changed my mind after thinking. 2 catch dogs and one bay dog.  Or do a three dog Max. Let the hunter choose his dogs to hunt. Dogs names and identifyable marks go on entry form.
 
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						| txhogsanddogs | 
								|  | « Reply #71 on:  January 30, 2013, 09:35:34 am » |  | 
 
 Dead hog. Not everyone has the equipment, trailers, to keep live hogs.  The number of entrys will be low so it isnt like a buyer will have hundreds of hogs to buy. Make the expense money of tournament on the entry money. Dead hogs mean less work for you. No need to line up buyer. No pens needed. Just a scale. 
 
 I changed my mind after thinking. 2 catch dogs and one bay dog.  Or do a three dog Max. Let the hunter choose his dogs to hunt. Dogs names and identifyable marks go on entry form.
 
 Good idea tcolt.
 
 I'm fine with everything your saying except the 3 dog deal, ive said this before that i don't know how everyone else hunts but i hunt with 3 dogs allot even on this past weekend during the tournament and put down down allot of hogs.  3 dogs won't work for me, as a top dog tournament.  JMO! |  
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						| TColt | 
								|  | « Reply #72 on:  January 30, 2013, 09:55:05 am » |  | 
 
 No help at all. Get creative load the hog yourself. Live hog is good. People don't watch a car race to see who wins they watch to see the wreck.
 Man, I like this idea. I just see the few people who enter, not being able to get anything decent out of the woods. If only a few teams enter, by the time the polygraph and all that is done, people are puttin up $400-$500 only to have a chance at doubling their money. I think I'm gonna stick with my original idea, maybe tweak it a bit here and there. Is there any complaints with my original idea (from people who are actually considering entering), or does it sound like it would work pretty good? Thinking about the last weekend in march or first weekend in April. Is there any other major tournaments that weekend? |  
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						| levibarcus | 
								|  | « Reply #73 on:  January 30, 2013, 10:07:33 am » |  | 
 
 Man, if I had a dog that I thought would be a top dog, I'd be in this deal! It will separate the men from the boys, and the culls from the hog dogs. I've caught a lot of hogs by myself, it can be done, and yeah, there can be some wrecks. You just have to be prepared and know what you are doing. 
 There might be some fellas that have a great dog but can't physically do this kind of hunt, but you can't cover every possibility.
 
 I've lost the only dogs I feel I could do this kind of deal with in the last couple months or I'd be in. I'm down to the b team.
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								|  | « Reply #74 on:  January 30, 2013, 10:15:32 am » |  | 
 
 I've lost the only dogs I feel I could do this kind of deal with in the last couple months or I'd be in. I'm down to the b team. [/quote] Welcome aboard!! It's worse than it seems! But its better than nothin! LOL     Glad to have you in my circle,    |  
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								|  | « Reply #75 on:  January 30, 2013, 10:18:19 am » |  | 
 
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						| t.wilbanks | 
								|  | « Reply #76 on:  January 30, 2013, 10:26:16 am » |  | 
 
 I'm sure y'all have seen the size of my arms, so I would definately need a helper...     But here is something that keeps coming to mind...  Would the top dog be the one that brings in the biggest hogs or the most?? Cward can go out to the feed lot and catch three 400# tame Barr hogs and beat me when my dog works its butt off catching ten 100# hogs... I know the bigger hogs can be harder to get out, but that's on the hunter not the dog.. Now I'm sure chance won't have any problem loading his hogs in a pasture right beside a feed trough...    Whats the chances of having 2 divisions or a side pot for one of them?? |  
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						| TColt | 
								|  | « Reply #77 on:  January 30, 2013, 10:43:09 am » |  | 
 
 It would be total weight brought in, unlimited stringer. So four 100 lbs hogs would be no different than one 400 lbs hog.
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						| kevin | 
								|  | « Reply #78 on:  January 30, 2013, 10:47:03 am » |  | 
 
 If you're going for top cur dog... I think number of catchdogs shouldn't matter.  As long as you only use one at a time. |  
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						| TColt | 
								|  | « Reply #79 on:  January 30, 2013, 11:04:32 am » |  | 
 
 The idea of this is to have two buddies pair up, one with a cur dog one with a catch dog. Then first place receives cash and two buckles. One says "top strike dog" other says "top catch dog". 
 I know that it doesn't necessarily mean that these two guys have the best cd or best cur dog, but at least people are gonna be hunting their best and limitations on dogs and helpers and all that is really gonna make people work. That's why I want to allow Barr hogs, people are gonna work their ass off and their dogs are gonna work their ass of, so it shouldn't matter what kind of hog they catch it should be counted.
 
 It's gonna be total weight so even the playing field a bit. If you don't have big hogs, catch more hogs. It takes twice as long maybe more to drag a three hundred pounder out compared to a 150 pounder, so while the other team is still dragging, go catch another hog. Yes, places make a difference, but I promise you the people with alot of good places have worked their asses off to be allowed to hunt and manage those places as they wish. If someone doesn't think they have the places to win something like this, then maybe that's what they need to focus their work and effort into. I personally don't think it would be fair to have someone who busts their ass for land owners and relationships and not be able to hunt their places just to even the playing field, and I don't think it gets any more evened out when you bring in total weight rather than biggest five hogs.
 It's not gonna be catch five hogs and done, people are gonna have to hunt their asses off to win this.
 
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