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« Reply #80 on: January 30, 2013, 01:11:01 pm »

What town are you looking at doing all of this?   I really like your last post & agree with most all of it.   Keep it up
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« Reply #81 on: January 30, 2013, 01:28:47 pm »

It will be near Kaufman, either my place or a weigh in not far from my place.  75142 zip
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« Reply #82 on: January 30, 2013, 04:42:01 pm »

This year it will be hosted in Kaufman county. If its a success and it's an annual thing, I'm gonna rotate the weigh in north and south. There is alot of weigh ins south though, so this year it will be north.
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« Reply #83 on: January 31, 2013, 01:50:46 am »

500 dollars is to much money for most folks. Does this mean they don't have the "TOP DOG" cause they can't afford it? How about 250 dollars. You take everyone who enters put there best spot in a pot. Have a draw out on the place to hunt. You could draw your on spot who knows. This will level the playing field. Have someone take them hunting on that spot. I would think the catchdogs would need to be bulldogs not curdogs.
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« Reply #84 on: January 31, 2013, 07:36:32 am »

I was talking to Monty last night and I agree with him, if you do a "Top Dog" then I dont think you can necessarily go by weight.  You should go by # of hogs caught.  Just because 1 dog can get on and catch (5) 275 pound hogs through a 24 hour hunt and another dog strikes and they catch 15 that weigh 50-100 pounds doesnt mean the one with the most weight should have won IMO.....  The other dog sure seemed like it would have been "Top Dog".  I think if you do it, go by # of hogs and like you said, maybe # of hogs over say 50 #'s. 
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« Reply #85 on: January 31, 2013, 07:49:56 am »

500 dollars is to much money for most folks. Does this mean they don't have the "TOP DOG" cause they can't afford it? How about 250 dollars. You take everyone who enters put there best spot in a pot. Have a draw out on the place to hunt. You could draw your on spot who knows. This will level the playing field. Have someone take them hunting on that spot. I would think the catchdogs would need to be bulldogs not curdogs.

Just my thought, i won't put my spot or spots in a drawing for one, ive hunted with peoples best dogs and ended up chasing cows thru fences and everywhere else and again i don't want Chance to draw my spot cause i don't want his dogs to have to work to hard! Wink  j/k
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« Reply #86 on: January 31, 2013, 08:44:09 am »

I'm thinkin along the same lines as Monty and Josh. Total number of hogs not weight. This REALLY evens the playing field.

What's better, a pair of dogs and their handlers that catch a hand full of big hogs over a 24 hour period or a dozen or more hogs over a 24 hour period.

To me...a great hog dog not only finds and bays hogs but he does it in high percentages...meaning....if said dog gets on a sounder he strikes and bays/catches...once hog is under control he rolls out and does it again...and again...and again...and again!

That is the best of the best! Not a dog that is strictly lucky enough to be in big hog country.

Now...if you have the kind of dog I'm talkin bout AND your in big hog country...then dang...your gonna be hard to beat and your dogs deserve the buckles.
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« Reply #87 on: January 31, 2013, 08:55:34 am »

I'm thinkin along the same lines as Monty and Josh. Total number of hogs not weight. This REALLY evens the playing field.

What's better, a pair of dogs and their handlers that catch a hand full of big hogs over a 24 hour period or a dozen or more hogs over a 24 hour period.

To me...a great hog dog not only finds and bays hogs but he does it in high percentages...meaning....if said dog gets on a sounder he strikes and bays/catches...once hog is under control he rolls out and does it again...and again...and again...and again!

That is the best of the best! Not a dog that is strictly lucky enough to be in big hog country.

Now...if you have the kind of dog I'm talkin bout AND your in big hog country...then dang...your gonna be hard to beat and your dogs deserve the buckles.
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« Reply #88 on: January 31, 2013, 08:56:05 am »

I'm thinkin along the same lines as Monty and Josh. Total number of hogs not weight. This REALLY evens the playing field.

What's better, a pair of dogs and their handlers that catch a hand full of big hogs over a 24 hour period or a dozen or more hogs over a 24 hour period.

To me...a great hog dog not only finds and bays hogs but he does it in high percentages...meaning....if said dog gets on a sounder he strikes and bays/catches...once hog is under control he rolls out and does it again...and again...and again...and again!

That is the best of the best! Not a dog that is strictly lucky enough to be in big hog country.

Now...if you have the kind of dog I'm talkin bout AND your in big hog country...then dang...your gonna be hard to beat and your dogs deserve the buckles.

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« Reply #89 on: January 31, 2013, 12:18:07 pm »

Numbers don't impress me as far as proving a "top dog". Hell, I had plenty of places years back that I could take pups to, catch 5 or 6 in a couple of hours and go home. I've hunted with countless people over the years that had honey holes where you could pile the pork up and it didn't take good dogs to do it. Those same dogs would be culls on most of the spots I hunt today.


Take a dog where hogs are scarce, been dogged for years and run like hell. Mold you a competion around that and you'll find out what a "top dog" is in my opinion.

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« Reply #90 on: January 31, 2013, 12:44:20 pm »

Numbers don't impress me as far as proving a "top dog". Hell, I had plenty of places years back that I could take pups to, catch 5 or 6 in a couple of hours and go home. I've hunted with countless people over the years that had honey holes where you could pile the pork up and it didn't take good dogs to do it. Those same dogs would be culls on most of the spots I hunt today.


Take a dog where hogs are scarce, been dogged for years and run like hell. Mold you a competion around that and you'll find out what a "top dog" is in my opinion.



Agree with alot of what you say but you ask the impossible.

That type of "Tournament" would have to be like....1500 acres...hunt 1 team every other week for a year...what...26 teams I guess. Even then it's still not totally level ground. Would need to be a high fenced property. With a known number of hogs and a time frame.

Freakin awesome concept but would be hard to do.

I just believe weight is more a luck of the draw type deal...as is numbers of hogs I guess...all comes down to location I suppose. Location/hog population/size is the key factor.

Rambling....but believe.....maybe a high fenced property with a set number of hogs released for each team, with something like 4 runs per weekend (8 hours each), over a month, run day/time would be by draw. Amount of hogs caught in shortest amount of time...1 cur/hound - 1 CD on lead...not released until first bark. Anyway...hard to have a completely level playing field.
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« Reply #91 on: January 31, 2013, 01:08:32 pm »

I would be in. I like the idea of 2 dogs only. Durability should be a factor. Would prefer dead hogs but would require that they be stabbed and not shot. Would also prefer that total combined weight (unlimited # of hogs) win the contest. This would balance the quality versus quantity debate. Alot of factors would have to line up for a man/dog team to win this type of event. You could easily be 1 hog and done or win the whole thing with a couple of decent hogs. It would certainly determine who was the best that weekend. I would probably be donating $500 to the winner. 
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« Reply #92 on: January 31, 2013, 01:18:19 pm »

I would be in. I like the idea of 2 dogs only. Durability should be a factor. Would prefer dead hogs but would require that they be stabbed and not shot. Would also prefer that total combined weight (unlimited # of hogs) win the contest. This would balance the quality versus quantity debate. Alot of factors would have to line up for a man/dog team to win this type of event. You could easily be 1 hog and done or win the whole thing with a couple of decent hogs. It would certainly determine who was the best that weekend. I would probably be donating $500 to the winner. 

Glad you chimed in Leon, been a while bud...  I'm all for total weight cause that's a about the only level ground in this type of comp. 

Mike- years ago yes you could take pups but not really sure on your area but in the last 5 years things have changed hell the last 5, 10, 15 years have really changed.  Yes you COULD take pups years ago on a place with allot of pigs and stack them up but TODAY i have allot of pigs but i assure you you've got to have more than puppy bottom to finish them out. 
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« Reply #93 on: January 31, 2013, 01:31:44 pm »

Brian, I agree those place are few and far between, but they do exist. People save them for contests such as this, especially with that much money on the line.

There's very few hogs on my places compared to 5 to 15 years ago and they are very educated. We may spend a whole day or night and catch one... any more than two and you've had a helluva good hunt. It sucks, but it is what it is.
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« Reply #94 on: January 31, 2013, 01:38:57 pm »

Brian, I agree those place are few and far between, but they do exist. People save them for contests such as this, especially with that much money on the line.

There's very few hogs on my places compared to 5 to 15 years ago and they are very educated. We may spend a whole day or night and catch one... any more than two and you've had a helluva good hunt. It sucks, but it is what it is.

Well if you know of one i need one this month for Monty's tourn..  Wink

We hit a sounder on mine and catch one out of it and yes i have some dogs that will go and catch up again but it's like 900 to 1000 everytime then catch one and go another 900 to 1000 again  it takes the fun out of for me!  Man i sure wish it would go back to the way it was but it won't ever...  Its just going to turn more into races the more this sport grows and the more the culls run them around!  Evil
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« Reply #95 on: January 31, 2013, 02:32:37 pm »

Make at date with enough time for this Florida girl to try to get up there. I like the two dog two person concept.
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« Reply #96 on: January 31, 2013, 02:34:04 pm »

Just a couple thoughts  I like total weight.  An eliminations type hunt.   Say 10 teams entered 1 find dog I catch dog, & each hunter hunt their properties.  Then take top 3 and hunt 3 separate places that had very similar hunting conditions, land, hogs, ect.    This could truly help detriment a top dog!    Just some thoughts I really think you are one to something special.
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« Reply #97 on: January 31, 2013, 03:23:54 pm »

Just a couple thoughts  I like total weight.  An eliminations type hunt.   Say 10 teams entered 1 find dog I catch dog, & each hunter hunt their properties.  Then take top 3 and hunt 3 separate places that had very similar hunting conditions, land, hogs, ect.    This could truly help detriment a top dog!    Just some thoughts I really think you are one to something special.

I'll trade with CWARD then!  Wink  i promise i got a good spot for you in Graham Chance! I want a shot at some of them BIG toothy cattle!  Wink
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« Reply #98 on: January 31, 2013, 03:57:27 pm »

Just a couple thoughts  I like total weight.  An eliminations type hunt.   Say 10 teams entered 1 find dog I catch dog, & each hunter hunt their properties.  Then take top 3 and hunt 3 separate places that had very similar hunting conditions, land, hogs, ect.    This could truly help detriment a top dog!    Just some thoughts I really think you are one to something special.

I'll trade with CWARD then!  Wink  i promise i got a good spot for you in Graham Chance! I want a shot at some of them BIG toothy cattle!  Wink
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« Reply #99 on: January 31, 2013, 06:04:15 pm »

Heck just take the top three to someone's place that has hogs go some where there is no hog sign and cast all of them first strike takes all get a judge to watch a garmin
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