wow

[AnthonyB]

Yes, misunderstandings can occur, when one doesn't read or understand what was written. As for ill will, I have not seen a post here lately that has not been started in a negative manner. Look at the title of this post, "wow", what kind of message is that supposed to convey, one of a positive nature? I highly doubt it. Any post can be picked apart and manipulated to be used as a point from which to argue, but when the post is obviously written with ill intent you just have to assume that is what it is, ill intent. As for the comment about a member being ignored and becoming agrivated, I don't see how that is possible. The new member that started this post voiced his concerns about a rule change that turned into pages of discussion, I don't see that as ignoring a "member". As a group we represent what we gather is best for the majority of the membership, sometimes that means that an individual will not get their way. What it doesn't mean is that an individual that doesn't get his way should be putting down an association that is trying to fight for rights that he enjoys just like the rest of us.  It takes maturity and experience to realize that we must act as a whole when we are board members and cannot bend to the complaints of a single member, and that the outcome needs to be both the best for the association and reflect the opinion of the majority of the membership. If we put half the effort expended arguing back and forth and putting down an organization that tries to help hog hunters towards helping we would be so much further ahead.
Anthony

[cward]

My whole post was to find out what is really going on with the tdha.I sit on alot of boards and there needs to be a president appointed. The board can motion that in.Boarwild I do believe you are there for good cause. Im here fighting for the barrs. I feel as a few has made this decision forgot about the dogs and hunting. My whole point is to get it fixed before it is dead. If I was missed informed then I apologize for being miss informed. But we are learning more about the board out of this thread. Not in a bad way but in a way we are learning who you are.
The reason why we bring this to this board and not the tdha is because there is 4000 members..Only 5 members would see it on the tdha website. I wish the bod would come over to this website and introduce themselves. When Paul was president he keep everyone informed on what was going on.
I did not even realize I was not a member until someone a bod called me out in a rude way on the tdha board. I renewed with a three year member ship once I realized. Even with all this going on so don't say im trying to separate US. When barrs were deleted from the competion then tdha separated us.
There again we can't find any information on the tdha websites all we hear is hear say.
I motion Boarwild in as president if the board can't seem to get that part done.
The post wow is a what the hell is going on. Anthonyb no one has a clue. Then people wonder why there is no members or not enoug. I would be happy together up members. Hell I bet can get 10 in 1 hour.I had no name of who this was or who is the president. But we know now. And to me sir that is a big wow to be a member and not know.

[cward]

I could set back and let this ride and except the barrs thing. I could shut my mouth and go on and deal with it or I can fight for something I believe in whole heartly I chose to fight. To fight you get to the bottom of things and pluck out the bad. If they take our guns or our dog rights you going to sit back and say oh well. Hell no you ain't!! It's not a lost to to the guys who don't catch barrs it a lost to the ones who do and i just so happen to be the one who said put me in front andgive me the boxing gloves. I personally did not call anyones name but mine is sure getting thrower around and i signed up for it.

[AnthonyB]

Are we really putting a second amendment right given by our constitution in the same category as Barrs being allowed in a hunting contest?
Anthony

[c.hykel]

Are we really putting a second amendment right given by our constitution in the same category as Barrs being allowed in a hunting contest?
Anthony

no but when you believe in something dearly you will do whatever it take to fight for what you believe in. In this case it's Barrs.  This has been what chance been fighting for. I'm for Barr hogs no I don't catch as many as others but its still a hog.  We hunted the board of texas and ran and caught a good Barr hog for nothing that cut the dogs and was a waste of time for us. 

[c.hykel]

You can't blame a man for standing up for what he believes in. 

[AnthonyB]

There is a very simple fix to the "problem" that you are concerned about. You would be happy to gather up members for the organization right? Well, we as a board represent the membership and their majority opinion, and we encourage them to voice that opinion. So, instead of dragging TDHA thru the mud unwarrantedly on a forum that has maybe fifty TDHA members go out and use that energy to recruit new members. If you can recruit ten in an hour then who knows how many you could recruit in a week. If you do that and recruit a large number of members then two things have happened, one, you have helped to grow an organization that fights for your rights and two, you stand a greater chance of your opinion being represented in the majority. One should stand up and fight for what they believe in, but there are positive ways to do it that can effect change and negative ways to do it that will not accomplish much.
Anthony

[Circle C]

Paul and Douglas,

Thank you for the response. I knew Paul had stepped down, but was not aware of the current vacancy. 

[cward]

When the bod represents the tdha and make a rule change then yes it will be drawn down that is ashame. Point your finger another direction and question as a bod did we or them make a mistake and take away a right the dog hunters have. If there is 5 three voted one Barr in stringer atleast. Barrs have been a tradition for my family along time so to me it is as good as the constitution the constitution is what this country was founded on and barrs is a heritage that my kids will carry on. Anothyb im sure your a great person but the dog hunting is not in the constitution either but you sit on a board that fights the right to keep it. Im fighting far the barrs. I will azure you I will start working to build members to the tdha

[cantexduck]

 Barring a hog is not a right.

[cward]

Barring a hog is not a right.

Ok it is our tradition that we do. It is practice that we do here where we live. It is something we do with our dogs Texas dogs. Glad you clarified that for me.

[T-Bob Parker]

I ain't saying it won't happen, but I sure do hear that y'all are fighting to keep our rights to hunt with dogs and we could lose em any day.

Let me suggest something for this next year,

1. try to get the state to allow hog meat to be used in the welfare system.

2. Work to standardize and publicize feral hog buying stations and help to regulate prices

3. Create a standard donation form for the weight of meat purchased and therefore donated

4. Lobby to allow landowners to get charitable giving deductions for all hogs donated.


BAM. hogs. Become. Money.  We will never lose our right and never run out of hogs...







Oh and barrs are hogs too.

[AnthonyB]

Your right, direct mention of hunting is not in the constitution, but the Ninth Amendment states: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. So you could argue that the right to hunt though not mentioned is still contained within the constitution by this amendment for arguments sake. And nobody within the board of TDHA is trying or able to take away your right to barr or hunt barred hogs. If that is a tradition in your area then by all means continue to do so. If it is a tradition in your family, then teach your children to do so. The Barrs rule was not changed to hurt Barr hunters and keep them from producing "good table fare" to eat. It is simply a rule that applies to this particular contest. Nothing in the rules says that barr hunters can not enter the contest, or that people that barr hogs can not enter the contest. It simply says that only one barr is allowed to be entered on your stringer if you compete in the contest. Three days of a contest, which one is not forced to enter, does not constitute the loss of rights as a dog hunter, it is simply the rules for this particular contest. So you can hunt barrs whenever you want if that is the tradition you want to carry on, the only difference will be that on the day of weigh in only one can be counted among your stringer. Also, new members are always welcome.
Anthony

[cantexduck]

Buyers don't want Barr hogs.


Chance ,
    If you want your side to hold merit you can't argue that it is right to barr hogs. Well I guess you can but it will be ripped apart.  Tradition makes more sense to me. Along your lines , I catch hogs under 100 pounds. Why can't they count as part of the stringer ? Some of them little guys run and run.  All the contest people do have a right to set forth rules. You feel strongly on allowing Barr hogs in a contest. I qouod not hunt any contest that won't count them.
Hunting a contest that doesn't allow them is just furthering their reason s.

[cantexduck]

I like your idea Terry but whatever the government controls is bound to fail.

A

[cward]

If y'all only new that im still promoting the tdha and promoting it to Barr hunters. Trust me when I say they are upset about this ruling being changed. Im still hanging in here with the tdha. This could be a good turn around for the tdha. I have received one pm from this post from a guy I do not know saying he followed me and would be sending his money in as a member  I told him thanks for doing that. We are fighting against each other and I guess none of us will back down from it all we do is twist each others words.  All im saying is there is a large group of guys that are not happy about this rule change. I told them I would stay on top of it.  I said it would separate US and it has done just that. Im trying to get the point across that We are here and want to be heard. Out of all this this is the first post that any of the bod other than Boarwild has posted to.one last time im still gathering people for the tdha.

[T-Bob Parker]

I like your idea Terry but whatever the government controls is bound to fail.

A

And whatever you hear your bound to disagree with. Lol  

Just picking, but I think the only failure is not trying.

[cantexduck]

I like your idea Terry but whatever the government controls is bound to fail.

A
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And whatever you hear your bound to disagree with. Lol  

Just picking, but I think the only failure is not trying.

 I am opinionated. Would it better if I rode on someone's coat tails ?    Money makes people do funny things. Hogs already bring in a lot of profit for the state. Depends on how you look at it if the destruction out weighs it

[Lance]

I just signed my whole family up as TDHA members. That's four new members. Some of the TDHA members post on the several threads over the whole BARRS allowed in a hunting contest has come across as, if your not a TDHA member then you don't have a right to express your opinion on the TDHA Tournament. Wether it was intentional or not, that is the way it came across and if it was intentional then I believe it was a pretty good strategy to boost memberships. Get a bunch of outspoken hard heads stirred up and goad them into joining. Well, I've joined and as I've said several times before, I'm for BARRS in your ( our ) tournament and I don't just mean one barr allowed in the stringer. If it's a hog and caught by dogs by legal means and within the rules of the tournament then it should be allowed. The polygraph will take care of the ones moving any hogs, barrs included, and stocking honey holes for tournaments. On just about every tournament flyer it says " you will not beat the polygraph ", well prove it and let the polygraph do it's job. It would'nt feel right if I won a tournament and found out that a team would of beat me but they were'nt allowed to weigh in 3 big barrs that they worked hard all day long and got their dogs butchered in the process of catching. There is nothing that can be done to even the playing field in a tournament. Someone is always going to have better places to hunt or better dogs and different areas of the state will always grow larger hogs than others. The whole arguement of a barr being a pre caught hog is a wash with me. There are alot more sows and boars out there that have been caught and released than there is barrs. The best way to try to level the playing field is to allow any hog that is caught within the rules of the competition to be allowed in the stringer and let the polygraph weed out the cheaters. I realize the rules have already been posted for this year and will not be changed but maybe this will be food for thought on next years tournament. There, Im a TDHA member and I've stated my opinion on OUR tournament.

[cward]

Got a pm on three more over night. Thanks  guys for coming together. Lance I really appreciate you getting the whole family  . Ya'll think I was attacking the tdha all im trying to do is help it. My thread was really started to show people where we are and to keep our right to hunt with dogs we need to stand and show our faces. Im sorry the few people thought I was after separation.
I'm asking for every that hunts barrs to join. Lets keep our heritage a live.
I will print a bunch of memberships forms off and get them signed up.
The ones that can go on line and get signed up please do.
Thanks again to the ones that pm me.