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« on: February 12, 2013, 12:21:27 am » |
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Have seen alot of recent posts with the age old questions of what's better...what's preferred ...what makes the real deal.
So let's play a little What's the best!
For discussion sake let's put both on even playing fields. Speaking of hunting with no limits on acreage.
A short range dog that typically finds plenty of hogs but falls out of a race fairly quickly and goes to finding another local in the same area.
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Long range with endless bottom that closes a single hog no matter the distance or timeframe.
Let's say on the hog for hog total. The short range dog produces more hogs caught but less % hogs found and finished.
And long range less hogs caught overall but higher % found and finished.
Well boyz. Now what's the best?
Enjoy
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brad s
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 12:35:31 am » |
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I would the short range with some bottom. I dont like when they chase small hogs for hours if its a good hog i want them too. Also something u didnt mention is one that will roll off on another hog affer its caught. I have a gyp that will do this while i have one caught she will go after another one
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I go where the dogs go!
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Mike
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 06:55:23 am » |
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A dog with endless bottom... regardless of range. Quitters don't stay around here too long.
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chads7376
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2013, 07:12:34 am » |
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A dog with endless bottom... regardless of range. Quitters don't stay around here too long.
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drew
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2013, 07:54:57 am » |
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I wont the long range dog with the bottom
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drew
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2013, 08:00:34 am » |
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But it doesn't hurt to have a couple shorter ranged dogs
In the mix it sucks sometimes when u got to different long ranged
Dogs different directions that's why that is a weekend hunt
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2013, 08:02:18 am » |
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I don't care if I had 500 acres or 100000 acres to hunt short to med. ruff dogs are the way to go for me. Bottom is for the birds I want him caught not ran across the county. I enjoy watching loose dogs bay when its right but in my experience more often than not it ends up in a big race witch I personally do not care for.
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Lance
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2013, 08:04:25 am » |
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I like med-long range with lots of bottom. If it will not stick with a runner then I don't need it.
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A scared dog dont get no meat !
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2013, 08:09:05 am » |
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you didn't leave a selection for my dogs short range find hogs and finish . you're not suggesting that all short range dogs are quitters are you lol . i'll give any dog a shot long or short but it better not quit till i'm ready .
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YELLOWBLACKMASK
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2013, 08:39:03 am » |
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Guess I could have put up a hundred combos of slightly different abilities.
But to keep it simple for discussion sake..I just picked the two abilities that seem to always be compared.
Getting a little further into the technical angles of the question.....
Do yall feel that either of the two...could be the preference of experienced vs newer to the game?
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The actual purpose for participation in the sport...meaning for the thrill of the catch......vs.....thrill of watching the dogs work.
Still waiting to hear from the guys that always post they would rather have a short med range that comes off fairly quickly but loops and goes to finding more...resulting in these higher amount of hogs caught per hunt.
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KevinN
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2013, 08:47:45 am » |
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Nobody can just answer a question!  Gotta put in your own stipulations  Straight up answer given the options...I would prefer the 2nd option. Short range, will quit a race after a while. Still catches hogs on a regular basis. Fine by me. |
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 08:53:05 am » |
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Nobody can just answer a question! Gotta put in your own stipulations Straight up answer given the options...I would prefer the 2nd option. Short range, will quit a race after a while. Still catches hogs on a regular basis. Fine by me. Actually think I miss spoke...short range dog was 1st option. Still get to see the dogs work...actually...probably get to SEE them work MORE (caught hog percentage). Nothing against the 2nd option...my Jasper pup will probably end up like that...just sayin... |
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DSmith
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2013, 08:53:10 am » |
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Depends on how many hogs you have in area, in my opinion. I have a lot of hogs, so why do I want to chase a dog for 4 hours and be passing hogs while I'm trying to get to the dog? Been there, done that, sold 'em all. For me, if they haven't gotten it stopped after a 2 mile race, I'll do my best to pick them up and go find another hog. And I catch more hogs now than I did running those 'bottomless' dogs.
A fella in Alabama asked me once, "Hey, if you get another dog that will run a hog for 5 hours, PLEASE call me and I'll buy it from you!" My response, "If I don't shoot the dog once I finally catch up to it, you can have him for free!!"
But where he lives, there are not many hogs, so he needs a dog that will run a race all day.
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2013, 09:02:10 am » |
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well since you put it that way when i started i had plenty of hogs and i wanted short to medium ranged dogs that would catch all they could quick and let the runners go after a bit , now i am all about medium range dogs that check up in no hogs and wont quit till i callem off . mostly du to i still walk hunt and no tracking system [ yet ] i still don't want long range go yonder dogs in no hogs . as far as what's the [ best ] can't answer to many differant variables .
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drew
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2013, 09:03:28 am » |
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I don't thank anyone on this site wonts a long race
We all won't it quick an simple right I just won't a dog
That will take the track further then the average dog
An put pork at the end
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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2013, 09:21:25 am » |
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A dog with endless bottom... regardless of range. Quitters don't stay around here too long.
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Mason
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2013, 09:23:24 am » |
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If that's my only two options I'll take the long range and bottom every time.
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2013, 09:30:25 am » |
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My dogs hunt short to medium, but have a lot of bottom. I prefer a good fast hunt, if a race starts I want to finish it at all cost. If a hog won't bay and runs 20 miles before he will stay put the dog needs to stay hooked up. If a hog runs like this if & when I catch him it is a dead hog. He-she will not live another day to reproduce more runners. I hate chasing hogs, but I hate one getting away even worse!
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chads7376
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2013, 09:49:49 am » |
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Like the long dogs that hunt for themselves. Short range dogs that I have to walk or drive them to the pigs don't stay on my yard. I rarely have a 2, 3 or 4 hour chase some of you are refering to. I have had some long walks that seem/felt like they take that long but I wouldn't trade for a dog I have to hunt for. JMO
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2013, 11:46:42 am » |
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I like catching hogs, not chasing them. Just sayin  |
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