Dogs getting beat with a bat

[sandyoakfarm]

Well hate to hear about your dog. I pulled in one time and two dogs were killing my kids show goats. I realized when I drawed down on them they were cur dogs. I went and caught the dogs. They had collars with nameplates I was a bit upset at first but after a minute I ask the hog hunters to pay for the goats. Both boys paid me for what I had paid for the goats and I could respect them for that  My kids show and work hard and love there animals if someone's dog is killing
My animals I will do any means necessary to kill that dog. I hate your dogs got killed but they were doing something they were not supposed to be. I know it was not on porpoise but it happened

I Agree. I would beat my own dog to death if I had too to get them off my 300 dollar show pig or 500 dollar brood sow. Nobody likes these kind of situations. Bitter on both ends but I would have done the same. I don't know the dogs and not trying to get bit. My goal would be to get them off and to stop trying to get at the pigs any way I could. And if killing them is the way then that's what's gonna happen. But these situations do suck. Had one of my catch dogs kill 2 of my mother n laws llama's and she tied it up and shot it. Bitter but it happens and it was my fault because my pen wasn't good enough. Only takes them getting out once for the crap to hit the fan

[Reuben]

Well hate to hear about your dog. I pulled in one time and two dogs were killing my kids show goats. I realized when I drawed down on them they were cur dogs. I went and caught the dogs. They had collars with nameplates I was a bit upset at first but after a minute I ask the hog hunters to pay for the goats. Both boys paid me for what I had paid for the goats and I could respect them for that  My kids show and work hard and love there animals if someone's dog is killing
My animals I will do any means necessary to kill that dog. I hate your dogs got killed but they were doing something they were not supposed to be. I know it was not on porpoise but it happened

Bitter but it happens and it was my fault because my pen wasn't good enough. Only takes them getting out once for the crap to hit the fan

yes sir...we have to take responsibility on ourselves when the dogs get out and cause property damage...

[JoshH34]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the woman had a gun is what pissed me off. Took me about an hour from the start of it to getting there and Roam laid there struggling to breathe because that what you never call a woman said she was on parole and couldn't use the gun. I hope that woman gets her jaw ripped off, she ain't got no f%#+<^> teeth anyways...

[Purebreedcolt]

Josh I agree with you whole heartly but you are a heck of a guy for not loosing your composure if it ever happens to me I hope I could do the same.   Think you need to go huntin or something to get your mind off things good luck again

[Fixitlouie]

am i missing something. hog dog got out, hog dog got on hog. hog not feral. ....sounds like owner of dog might be replacing a non feral hog. not dogs fault, not owners fault. not missing teeth lady fault. still PROBLEM...

from me.....who else. tapatalk

[TinyTexasCowgirl]

I would not be surprised if the county makes u put the dog down. I would not raise a big stink over it if you want to keep the dog....

There are ways around that. I speak from experience.

[Shotgun wg]

As bad as the fact may be the lady was on parole. Useing a gun coulda landed her back in jail. While u may think that is a good thing with out a doubt it was not where she wanted to go. She used the means available to her that didn't result in jail time that would do the job to save those pigs from those evil dogs. When u add the fact that one of the dogs was a bull dog the fear level jumps up. The majority of people are scared to death of a bull dog as u know. When she got to swinging and as the dogs were knocked of the hogs I'm sure she kept swinging till they stopped moving. This would be logical in a fear situation to me because until they stop moving they remain a threat to a scared person.

I would to be mad as the devil but u must look at both sides. There may have been a gun but to a paroled felon that didn't want to go back to jail it may as well have not been there. Also who is to say she even knew how to use it. It is possible she may have been scared she would hit a pig. While these dogs were ur pets to her they were strays or something similar.

The point was made that she had no right beings she was just the housekeeper. I don't agree here. If ur neighbor had prize horses or prize cows and u knew they were show animals his kids loved and u saw some dogs had done killed one or more and after some more. In this case u happen to be fearfull of dogs and no gun on hand and only a 2x4 or piece of pipe. Would u do anything or just drive on.

I'm not saying she was right. I am just playing devils advocate here giving possible scenarios. Ur dogs were important to u and I hate u have to bury one and pay for the others rehab but it happend and unless u see both sides u will never get over it.

[CentralTex 254]

If somebody's dogs got after my livestock or anything that belongs to me I would use whatever is closest for me to get a hold of.

Did she tie the dogs off and beat them to death with the bat? If that's the case she is completely in the wrong, however, I don't believe she will get in trouble but you probably will. That is how it usually goes!

x2...catch type dogs need to be kept where they can not get loose because they can and will kill livestock including  dogs, chickens, and they could get on someones child...

The only thing my catch dogs go for is a 100% pork. I had a mishap with both of them on cows and broke that really really quick. Heck theyll run through deer cows and goats and not even look at them. Now web they see a pig they are wild with a little handle still , not much though lol. So if they are hog dogs it would only be natural for them to catch higs jmo. Still hope everything works out for you

[Ron]

To the guy who said he would beat his own dog to death, WTF?  Must not be a dog handler.

[sandyoakfarm]

I'm not saying I'm gonna tie my dog up and beat it to death, but I would beat it until it got off of something it's no supposed to be on, like my kids show hog. And if it happened to die from the injuries it sustained from me trying to get it off then that sucks but you don't have much choice in those situations.

[hogmantx1979]

If you have the proper handle on your dog no beating is needed don't sound like a dog handler to me jmo

[sandyoakfarm]

This is a hypothetical dog how could I have a handle on it?

[charles]

This is a hypothetical dog how could I have a handle on it?

I think what he is tryn to say is, that with it bein YOUR dog, IF ur dog was caught on somethn they werent suppose to be on, then u have not broke your dogs from it.
The whole u dont hav a handle on thing mite be a lil much, but (here we go with IF again) if u had to resort to beating ur dog to death, then u mite not should have had that dog to begin with since u didnt know or want to learn how to break it off something once caught. If u can get close to beat it to death with out injuring the animal its caught on, then ur close enuf to use a break stick or some other method other than beating it to death, remember the dog is yours, not some1 elses so u should know how to handle your dog.

[M Bennet]

i hope ruger gets better josh, and i would talk to a lawer and see if you have a chance to file cruelty to animal charges. that place she was at is a dope house and she probly was tweaky. i personly would have got put in jail looking at my dog suffering . it would have looked like babe ruth was in the house

[JoshH34]

Monty he seems to be better by the day, he took another stroll outside yesterday and seemed to enjoy it.  Swelling has gone down on his head.  He finally opens his right eye now, I believe Saturday he could kinda open it, but yesterday it was open all the way.  Now, that being said, best I can tell is that he is blind or partially blind in it.  It is very cloudy and when I move my fingers in front of his left eye, he closes it, when I do it to his right, he doesnt even know it.  Hopefully maybe that will clear up, but if he keeps coming along and ends up blind in one eye, well I guess that is alot better than what coulda been. 

IMO a hog is a hog, a dog doesnt know the difference in a domestic hog or wild hog.  He did what he thought he was suppose to do.  Thats no different than a boar, a sow, a shoat, or a good ole barr hog.  Theyre all swine.....  Your dog is doing what its suppose to.  Sorry, I never had a show hog to practice and break a dog off it lol.   

[charles]

I agree with monty, josh. It wont hurt to speak to a lawyer, explain exactly what happened and what you did to recoupe the damages to the owner of the hogs and see what the lawyer says. U probly dont hav a case, but i look at the neg aspect of life, but a honestly hope something can be done to her. No matter what ur dogs did, there had to be an alternitive to what she did. Its good to hear he is gettn better and hopefully the eye will be ok n clear up. MAKE sure to take a LOT of PICS of him before and during his healing. Best of luck to ya n ur dog.

[JoshH34]

Thank you Charles. 

[sandyoakfarm]

This is a hypothetical dog how could I have a handle on it?

I think what he is tryn to say is, that with it bein YOUR dog, IF ur dog was caught on somethn they werent suppose to be on, then u have not broke your dogs from it.
The whole u dont hav a handle on thing mite be a lil much, but (here we go with IF again) if u had to resort to beating ur dog to death, then u mite not should have had that dog to begin with since u didnt know or want to learn how to break it off something once caught. If u can get close to beat it to death with out injuring the animal its caught on, then ur close enuf to use a break stick or some other method other than beating it to death, remember the dog is yours, not some1 elses so u should know how to handle your dog.

Ok I understand that. That's why I don't have a bulldog since the llama incident. Dog had never seen a llama to break it from it. Didn't mess with cows or horses. Just too much liability were I live.

[Easttex91]

I think what he is tryn to say is, that with it bein YOUR dog, IF ur dog was caught on somethn they werent suppose to be on, then u have not broke your dogs from it.
The whole u dont hav a handle on thing mite be a lil much, but (here we go with IF again) if u had to resort to beating ur dog to death, then u mite not should have had that dog to begin with since u didnt know or want to learn how to break it off something once caught. If u can get close to beat it to death with out injuring the animal its caught on, then ur close enuf to use a break stick or some other method other than beating it to death, remember the dog is yours, not some1 elses so u should know how to handle
Ok I understand that. That's why I don't have a bulldog since the llama incident. Dog had never seen a llama to break it from it. Didn't mess with cows or horses. Just too much liability were I live.
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You got my kinda luck when you got your dog broke off everything and it finds a damned llama to catch lol

[marks]

A little different but what if you walk in to a man murdering your wife or even another woman. There is a baseball bat next to the door. Do you hit him once so he lets go of your wife? or do you swing till he is a grease spot on the floor? I realize it hurt your feelings. It would hurt mine too. I also realize you made things right with the owner and seem good with him but I wouldn't tempt fate. You go after his cleaning lady and he may forget your ceremonial beer and take up for his employee. As bad as it hurts I would sink into the shadows, cut your loses, and let time heal.

I try to see it from her eyes. I see 2 unknown and seemingly hostile dogs (she doesn't know they are tame pets) attacking and killing my employers prized pigs. If he knows I just sat back and watched he would likely be upset not to mention thats not how I roll. For whatever reason I'm not legal to use a gun. I'm not gonna go to jail on a gun charge over some dogs and pigs. Baseball bat works. The only difference is at my size it would likely only take 1 hit to kill the dogs but if I hit an unknown dog (especially a bulldog) with a baseball bat I'm not gonna stand there and wait to see if he is gonna fight back. I don't fight fair. Unless he heads for the hills I'm gonna put him down. It sucks but thats the way I see it. If I was on the jury thats how I'd vote.